Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

just skimming right now..I didnt see the "me" in the chart....anyway, have more I want to say...but cant at the moment....not sure I understand the Pac wagon right now, wasnt he the counter wagon yesterday?....people think we were that good to have caught two scum yesterday?....not buying it, and not buying the wagon....

need to catch up...hoping to do so in the next 48

also plum 1051, makes no sense to me.

[Iecerint]

CKD, what is your preferred wagon?

[Furcolow]

I actually agree with a lot of vezokpiraka's listings, other than me being scum. If he claimed I'm simply scummy, I can agree/cope with that, but I am not scum. His list is more on "who is acting scummy" and "who is acting pro-town", when the most pro-town appearing players can end up being the demons that are among us brothers.

i am very glad socrates is defending me, but know that scum will defend townies that they believe will possibly be mislynched

[Plum]

V/LA through Saturday Night/Sunday morning. Jewish New Year and all that.

[AGar]

pacman, i would give anything for you to replace out if you are town, because if you believe that, and are not lying scum, you are the worst mafia player i have ever seen

I'm lol-ing with irony.

I actually agree with a lot of vezokpiraka's listings, other than me being scum. If he claimed I'm simply scummy, I can agree/cope with that, but I am not scum. His list is more on "who is acting scummy" and "who is acting pro-town", when the most pro-town appearing players can end up being the demons that are among us brothers.

i am very glad socrates is defending me, but know that scum will defend townies that they believe will possibly be mislynched

Poisoning the well much?

Might have the wrong term, but it basically looks like you're setting up for a future lynch there.

*sigh* VIs are the abominations of mafia.

Need to re-read Pacman, but I'm debating the nature of the wagon's forming... Not sure where to stand on it.

I guess this is the part where I promise you all a wonderfully detailed catchup post, but instead I'm just promising something will come tonight.

[Furcolow]

Glad you promised something, because that post was horrible, judge

and no, i do not plan to lynch socrates, xvart, or plum. thanks for the shit-slinging.

[pacman281292]

xvart isn't even playing, furc.
SocioPath... well... *brain asplodes*
I will try to post something later tonight, too. Got tired from university.

[Furcolow]

i have no idea why i keep getting another game confused with this one.
very embarrassing.
apologies to the mod. your game is wonderful, and has been both of a high level and delightful.

I meant Iecerint, obviously, as I was referring to him saying I was "poisoning the well". I am merely taking into fact the consideration people who seem protown might not be protown. By this logic, which I follow, players like you and I might actually be town, pacman.

Imagine that.

[Vi]

Vote Count XXV

~ Why yes, this game IS delightful

pacman (L-3) ~ Friend, Furcolow, Plum, SocioPath

vezokpiraka (L-6) ~ Me=Weird

curiouskarmadog (L-7) ~

Socrates

Furcolow (L-6) ~

vezokpiraka

Not Voting:

AGar, Chronopie,

Me=Weird,

Iecerint, Locke Lamora, curiouskarmadog,

SocioPath, Socrates,

pacman, Socrates, vezokpiraka

AGar 0 | Chronopie 1 PROD1 4 | Me= 0 | Friend 1 | Furc 0 | Iece 0 | Locke 2 | pacman 0 | Plum 0 PROD1 11 | ckd 0 | Socio 0 | Socrates 0 | vezo 0

--With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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[Furcolow]

unvote

for now
not like "for now" on the pacman wagon, but more like "for now" in relation to remaining unvoted.

[Iecerint]

I never said you were poisoning the well. That was AGar. Did you accidentally type him for me there, or misremember who said what?

[Furcolow]

no... i meant i was referring to judge(aGar's nickname) saying i was poisoning the well referencing your name and me saying "well, this person might be acting that way as scum, and us not know"

if anything, i wasn't even referring to you whatsoever iecerint
sorry for the mixup on rhetoric or whatever

[Furcolow]

and im referencing gandalf saying you were pro-town, then me saying that "well, someone who is "pro-town" might not be", and judge saying i was "poisoning the well" when I wasn't at all. I'm just being careful.

[Iecerint]

I think it's pretty bogus that people think my behavior this game has been pro-town tbh. I've been extremely lazy and more focused on other games. The only original thought I've had all game (except for like RVS-tier stuff on Beefster) is the point that CKD voting mothy late with proxy is serious business.

[Iecerint]

I guess I look towner when everyone has a naughty meta but you know.

[Furcolow]

are you telling the town to vote you because you are that pro-town as scum?

[Furcolow]

you have a good interpretation about the flow of the game.
you would not steal the spotlight as a townie, which i believe you are this game.
perhaps i should say youre a medic since i should get mafia to hit you

[pacman281292]

@Furc: You're STILL on the wrong game. No gandalf.
*facepalm*


Now, about my promised reread on mothrax:
D1: He starts off by voting ani (now Chronopie) because he was pushing a policy lynch. I don't know why, but this interaction gives me a slight towm vobe for former ani, current Chrono.
Then, he proceeds to attack AGar (an attack that quickly turns into a personal bickering), then makes up some shitty reasons to attack Furc. moth vs AGar gives me nullread (well, it was just some personal bickering), moth vs furc gives null too.
D2: Starts by accusing Furc of misreading ("FLAIL SCUM FLAIL") Then, he answers some isolated questions (mainly on his reads, and on his hate on meta). then accuses Plum+Soc of trying to "pull wood on town's eyes". Both attacks seem to give me a slight town read on Plum, Soc and Furc. More bickering with AGar, then some defenses when wagon is fully developing.
then, odd claim, claims having followed AGar to nowhere. Now, this does give a strong scumvibe to AGar.
Setting a bickering war over pointless fluff is actually quite possible for scum. And he did. Then, he claimed having followed AGar anywhere. That should have meant he knew AGar didn't make anything last night. Hummm...

FoS: AGar.

Blah blah blah, answers stuff to his roleclaim, then falls under its own weight. Bye bye.

another interesting thing: No mention to vezokpiraka. Not the slightest one. I'd call distancing here; vezok has been quite a "notable" player for a long time, so no mention at all does ACTUALLY mean something IMO. Further scumlean for vezo.
Therefore, i'll

Vote: vezokpiraka.

[AGar]

Glad you promised something, because that post was horrible, judge

and no, i do not plan to lynch socrates, xvart, or plum. thanks for the shit-slinging.

So it's ok for you to go "I like that he's defending me, but all may not be what it seems," but when I bring up the possibility of scum motivations for that, it's "shit-slinging"?

i just read Pacman iso, I don't see the suspicion or the wagon on him. He's acted middle-of-the-road at worst, and last I checked, skimming wasn't a tried and true de facto scumtell. I've found it null. So that point is gone, modkill fishing isn't scummy either. The case just doesn't convince me.

Vezok wagon just keeps looking better and better. I said yesterday I'd be willing to lynch him or Moth yesterday and the other today. Why not just go through with what I said - he's just proven himself to be more of a pestilence, now sticking a vote down and refusing to budge.

Socrates, what's the hardline reasoning behind a massclaim?

VOTE: vezokpiraka

[Socrates]

Socrates, what's the hardline reasoning behind a massclaim?

SECRET INFOS. The more we talk about it, the less effective it will be. If my reasons aren't up to snuff after we do a massclaim, then you can lynch me.

[Locke Lamora]

Vezo's attempt to make Furc look bad is enough for me to:

Vote: vezokpiraka

The vote-hopping is null, as far as I'm concerned, but as the game's gone on the style seems more aggressive and a little more calculating than I've seen from vezo-town, to be honest.

Wary of a massclaim suggestion. Last time I was in a game that had a massclaim proposed for vague setup-discerning reasons, the advocate was scum (see Kinetic, A Game of Thrones Mafia).

[vezokpiraka]

So.
Pacman votes me. Agar jumps imediatly. He suspected me so I think he has a reason to vote me and then comes a locke lamora with a vote on me.
What can I say. I'm delited. If for any one time I thought pacman was town I don't have that feeling anymore. Annd I feel that locke is his scum buddy or at least he is scum.

unvote
vote pacman

[Friend]

unvote, vote: vezokpiraka

This wagon is a good one.

[pacman281292]

So.
Pacman votes me. Agar jumps imediatly. He suspected me so I think he has a reason to vote me and then comes a locke lamora with a vote on me.
What can I say. I'm delited. If for any one time I thought pacman was town I don't have that feeling anymore. Annd I feel that locke is his scum buddy or at least he is scum.

unvote
vote pacman

lol. This is OMGUS to the max.
/quickposting at university.

[AGar]

Hmm.

Interesting, I think I'm game with Soc.

vezok wagon is good, yes Friend. And yes, pac - OMGUS to the max.

@Locke - Is that singular suggestion of a massclaim by scum the sole reason you are wary?