SWN III: Dreamland Castle Is Under Siege (Halted, mod error)

[Katsuki]

Nice.

Vote: Dramonic

- MAKE FLAVOR UNDERSTANDABLE FFS.

[Katsuki]

IS THAT SPANISH?

ALSO SOMEONE PLEASE TRANSLATE EVERY POST OF CSL'S FOR US KTHX.

p-edit: GOOGLE TRANSLATE IS SHIT.

[Katsuki]

SOMEONE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE BEST SPANISH ENGLISH ONLINE TRANSLATOR KTHX.

then again, online translators tend to fuck up meanings pretty bad.

[Katsuki]

Ok.

If he is using bing translator then I advise you guys use the same to re-translate into english, because different translators do different things.

[Katsuki]

Wonderful, pacman can translate the most important points for us. We can easily double-check with either online translator or other spanish speakers to hopefully hold you accountable.

Any spanish-speaking volunteers should help too I doubt that EVERY SINGLE spanish speaker will be scum... (hopefully)

[Katsuki]

Yes, google translator is terrible.

CSL do us a favor and use bing.

[Katsuki]

We know PRs can exist, due to a dead townie having one. Given that half the players or so have even yet to post, we are already here discussing whether CSL's PR is true or not?

Lady seems to be trying to spin CSL's spanish into a scum explanation...

[Katsuki]

Hm, I think I can see where Lady is coming from now. But I think that it is wrong since it does not seem that CSL is a native spanish speaker so my interpretation of her theory goes out.

It's like me typing in whatever language I know other than english just to make it hard for town to tell what I am saying.

[Katsuki]

lol looks like parama has a PR too.

PR-deciphering will be fun

[Katsuki]

Dramonic's PR should be related to alphabet mafia

[Katsuki]

I do not have a PR

I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOUR'S SHOULD BE GODDAMNIT.

[Katsuki]

OMG jap r-l switch, funny.

Also glad to see TL with MPR kitty PR

[Katsuki]

I totally missed that DH post...

Vote: DH

[Katsuki]

Fixing vote.

Unvote, Vote DH

[Katsuki]

Wait, what?

SSK suspects ani but votes me? Interesting.

p-edit: I was wondering about your last quote.

[Katsuki]

@DH: By missed, I never read it your post.

I was too busy lol'ing at PRs.

[Katsuki]

Can you summerize what you meant in a single post then, DH? I still have no idea what you're trying to get at.

[Katsuki]

Opportunistic?

PR speculation is fine. However, you stated that we can

"conclude"

that both town and mafia have PRs in your first post. How is that possible, unless you have knowledge as to who has what? Granted this is my first PR game, but the way you seem so certain of distribution still bothers me.

If anything, you seem to be trying to divert attention away from yourself push my lynch hard just because you've had time to cover up your statements. Also, you call TL, the one who originally pointed out that post of yours, stupid. Attacking the person who exposed you and then chainsawing the second voter, nice.

[Katsuki]

Did anyone ever state that PRs were town? I only remember someone stating that PRs were scum, not the other way around, which is what drew my interest to your comments.

[Katsuki]

?

[Katsuki]

What I don't get is why people are even bothering to START conversations as to what affiliations have what PRs when we have no knowledge of it. It's utterly pointless to bother, unless certain PRs, or lack thereof, were known to belong to certain factions.

[Katsuki]

Oh man, this is amusing.

@Pacman: Why only FOS me and ani, but not CSL, who voted between ani and I?
@Spy: You comment on ani and I. What is your read on CSL?

So many just focusing on ani and I, but letting CSL slide. I am quite curious about that tbh.

[Katsuki]

How am I pushing for CSL at all, let alone hard, tell me that?

Lemme put it this way. Eg: Pacman. If you are going to suspect ani and I for "jumping on the wagon", and not CSL, who explicitly stated that he agreed with that wagon, then something is wrong there.

The reasoning people have been using in regards to me have been inconsistant, you included.

[Katsuki]

No. YOU GUYS DID NOT EVEN MENTION HIM. THAT is my problem, not the voting itself.

See, it wasn't so hard to at least explain your vote now was it?

[Katsuki]

How the fuck did I try to get you to attack him. READ THE FUCKING POST.

[Katsuki]

NO NO NO NO NO

I AM SAYING, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT ME OR ANI FOR THOSE REASONS, DON'T JUST GO IGNORING CSL. Essentially, I am calling you guys out for ignoring CSL vote.

Given how conveniently CSL was ignored, I definately do not think that LLD, pacman and spy are all town.

[Katsuki]

You see, providing reasoning is nice, right? Dunno why you couldnt've said all that before.

Pacman's vote was originally due to "me following the wagon" which could've applied to CSL or ani as well, aka, pacman looking for easy bandwagon. I originally felt that your vote on me was similar to that.

[Katsuki]

I think vezok managed to break his PR in a one-word post.

[Katsuki]

My argument is getting taken completely out of complex... if its anyone who didn't read, its you me=.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT EXPLICITLY LOOKING AT CSL. READ WHAT MY ARGUMENT ON THAT MATTER WAS THEN GET BACK TO ME KTHX.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki

- Why is your sig so appropriate for your ISOs 0-11? What about DH's post was suspicious? Why are you deflecting towards CSL, who hasn't even posted recently? Do you think CSL is more likely to be scum than DH? If so, why is your vote still on DH and what have you done to back it up?

Firstly, no, I do not think CSL is scum. I was not trying to deflect attention to CSL specifically, but my attackers seemed happy to entirely leave CSL out of their

"oh hey you're quick-voting, you must be scum!"

.

DH is by no means my top suspect anymore, but I have yet had the time to properly go back and look. He explained his philosophy and where he was coming from. I suppose my vote now is misleading. However, before, it seemed to me that firstly, he was pushing PRs and secondly, that he seemed to know something we didn't about it. It seems now that I read it wrong, but at the time, his posts irked me greatly.

Unvote

[Katsuki]

I need to re-read, but pacman. Spy is a close second, and LLD is probably town.

[Katsuki]

I will post analysis in a few days. Moving.

[Katsuki]

I will not be posting much content for the next week. Busy moving, no time for analysis.

[Katsuki]

Well, it seems like Mafuyu loves doing it (i.e. annoying town by dodging questions). It's anti-town, but on second thought it isn't totally scummy. However, she needs to still answer if she's still being called out there.
I guess I'll

unvote

, but I'm keeping an eye on you, Mafuyu.

Could you sit on the fence anymore?

Vote: Pacman

Also I thought my vote was on you to begin with.

[Katsuki]

^This, after the mafuyu wagon has caught a lot of flak.

Essentially, this post coming after what has happened with some of the comments I skimmed makes it seem like a scum trying to backtrack, while leaving the door open for any opportunities to rejoin the wagon.

[Katsuki]

Kat shut up pacman is town.

Where did your scumdar go? Did you drop it when you went off to chase dram?

[Katsuki]

Go for it.

But before you do, want to explain to me how pacman is town? Because, ya know, I DISAGREE.

[Katsuki]

Am I not allowed to ask reck?

And yeah, not happening tonight. Too tired.

I tried last night for another game. Bad idea. Accidentally deleted 20mins worth of analysis when I accidentally highlighted post and pressed button. No MSWord sucks, as well as furniture shopping.

[Katsuki]

DON'T DODGE QUESTIONS.

[Katsuki]

PACMAN -1

This is the only thing I saw in your catchup about pacman. Would you like to provide ANYTHING other than -1 = town?

[Katsuki]

I agree with much of Ager's case against framm.

Unvote, Vote Framm

Reck, you seem to be unusually focused on dram a lot this game. Aside from out-of-game reasons, why?

[Katsuki]

I'm not allowed to vote for scumminess anymore?

Fun.

[Katsuki]

No, the theory itself is fine. The fonts annoy me because I still can't remember which color is which.

Also, your lynch target statement is quite the sitting on the fence as well as leaving a backdoor open... as in, if anything happens to framm wagon, you can easily slip back onto me...

Reck is most likely town. So is Ager. Will do a full town-read later today.

[Katsuki]

@Me=weird: After you explain all your vote-hopping.

[Katsuki]

Well we probably do not have a day vig.

That said, I do not get why framm enthusiast reck is all of a sudden feeling so apathetic towards framm lynch.

[Katsuki]

Not liking all the opportunistic wagon-hopping…

Unvote: Vote: Lady Lamdadelta

Previously stated reasons, and also contradictions. Earlier, she seemed to want to vig framm and lynch someone else. Now, when AGar said we

lynch

scummy players not vig them, she said she agreed.

OBJECTION! I said that I am all for lynching someone, and bugging someone else, but I also agreed we need to lynch people who we think are scummy!

You first wanted to lynch framm. Then you wanted to vig him and lynch someone else. Then you switched back to wanting to lynch him. You've been going with the popular opinion on whether we want to vig him or lynch him. That is scummy.

It is possible to agree with both statements!

It is not.

I do think we should lynch someone scummy, but it's also good to have some vig bait.

We vig VIish players, like vezo(though he's site-flaked). We do not vig scummy players, we lynch them.

On another note, does anyone else think lynching Vezok is a waste of time? I'll do it, because it's not a total waste, but I'd rather do someone more suspicious?

1. He's site-flaked. 2.

He

would be a good person to vig.

Bolded teal mine.

You got a better target, reck?

I assumed that much of the things he was saying were Anti-town. Because of this, I felt that lynching him isin't a /BAD/ idea.

I also said I wouldn't mind vigging Framm, for 2 reasons. 1. I said if anyone had a better lynch. 2. It seemed to me like the Framm wagon wasn't going to happen today, because people were scared by the people who were on the wagon (Ex. Me Dx).

On another note, I personally feel that Katsuki is still a good lynch.

Also, your lynch target statement is quite the sitting on the fence as well as leaving a backdoor open... as in, if anything happens to framm wagon, you can easily slip back onto me...

Yeah... LLD is probably scum.

Unvote, Vote LLD

I think our exchange was on page 23 or somewhere around there (22 - 24)

[Katsuki]

vote: Katsuki

Are you content to just jump on whatever wagon's the largest and not expect to get called out for it?

Way to read.

Are you content to just sit here asking questions while not bothering to read? Or look at anything?

[Katsuki]

Wait, shotty is replacing vezok?

If so, PLEASE VIG SHOTTY. I should not need to explain myself on that one.

[Katsuki]

Don't you think treatment like that is why players leave the site?

Considering the things shotty has done for me in my games...

[Katsuki]

Don't you think treatment like that is why players leave the site?

To play advocate, shotty has self-hammered as town in obvious LyLo if memory serves correctly.

I saw that too.

I'm actually amazed that strangecoug let shotty replace in considering what happened in [REDACTED].

[Katsuki]

So
Spyrex refuses to see anyone else hanging other than me. Even though he admits the tingly feelings 718 gives?

Granted, LLD is pretty much content with any lynch that has gained any traction D1 as long as its one other than herself...

Last note, parama is hopping like mad!
Also pacman has not posted anything as of late.

This post also draws a lot of attention:

On another note, I personally feel that Katsuki is still a good lynch.

5 bucks says that

if I vote Katsuki... even though I've been saying I suspect her /LONG/ before xReckx called for the wagon

, I'll be accused of "Wagon Hopping"... even though that could not be farther from the truth....

Fuck it.

UNVOTE: Framm VOTE: Katsuki

Reck all of a sudden gains interest in me, and LLD immediately follows suit, while trying to give the impression of how she "always suspected me", before reck even did.
All in all, she wants credit and associate herself with reck's supposed towniness.

[Katsuki]

The Katsuki wagon is crap because Katsuki commonly plays ridiculously as town, and this playing is in no way different than the one I've contemplated first-handed in other games.

I'm sorry?... T^T

[Katsuki]

FYI, shotty replaced vezok.

p-edit: That was quick?...

[Katsuki]

NO
SHOTTY FIRST.

[Katsuki]

Why are you asking for a mafuyu wagon now?
Why are you only interested in making ever so much noise?

Though, you've managed to finally ask one good question, so, I guess I'll let you slide.

[Katsuki]

Townie role cop? Never heard of that before.

Role really does sound SK-ish.

P-EDIT: WHY MAFUYU? YOU'VE GIVEN LIKE, NO REASONS WHATSOEVER.

P-EDIT II: NO, YOUR ROLE DOES NOT SEEM TOWN AT ALL... @LLD

P-EDIT III: FFS LET ME POST PPL

[Katsuki]

Funny, reck has yet to say anything about why I am scum.

I also do not agree with vig'ing mafuyu. CSL and pacman if anyone. Add framm in there, or parama. Mafuyu is far less scummy than any of those 4 characters.

[Katsuki]

TOO MANY PEOPLE
NEED COPVIGGING.

THAT SAID, RECK LOVES POPULAR WAGONS ONLY
AKA, HE HAS YET SO SAY ANYTHING AS TO WHY I AM SCUM
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT RECK.

[Katsuki]

ALL I SEE IS FLUFF

AND NOT A SINGLE REASON AS TO WHY I AM SCUM.

[Katsuki]

Maybe I'm hard to wagon because you're wagoning the wrong person...

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote framm

[Katsuki]

Oh, and just a note, deadline is tomorrow, so, yeah. Lynch appreciated.

[Katsuki]

Also am fine with me and mafuyu.

[Katsuki]

Wat.

Did you just hammer?!

[Katsuki]

Ah.

I was gonna say, that was one quick-ass hammer.

Listening to class and reading mafia at the same time leads to stuff like this = =

[Katsuki]

Wait, so neither my N0 nor N1 roleblocks went through?

[Katsuki]

FTR, roleblocked ani N0, and LLD N1... = =

[Katsuki]

pretty damn sure that I pm'ed it N0 at least...