SWN III: Dreamland Castle Is Under Siege (Halted, mod error)

[Mafuyu]

Neutral to the situation, TL?

[DemonHybrid]

*meow*

You didn't post anything different. There is probably mafia with a PR. That doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't lynch people with PRs unless we're certain that they're scummy, not based on the fact that they have a PR.

Start being smart.

Oh wait...you're a cat. Cats are never smart. And they smell.

Man, I dislike cats so hard.

[animorpherv1]

OOOOOH. I GET IT NOW.

unvote

[DemonHybrid]

But hey, I'm glad one good thing came out of this; we found opportunistic scum.

Kats lynch?

Cause....well, you know how I feel about Kats.

BA-DOOM tshhhhhh

[Katsuki]

Opportunistic?

PR speculation is fine. However, you stated that we can

"conclude"

that both town and mafia have PRs in your first post. How is that possible, unless you have knowledge as to who has what? Granted this is my first PR game, but the way you seem so certain of distribution still bothers me.

If anything, you seem to be trying to divert attention away from yourself push my lynch hard just because you've had time to cover up your statements. Also, you call TL, the one who originally pointed out that post of yours, stupid. Attacking the person who exposed you and then chainsawing the second voter, nice.

[DemonHybrid]

I called cats stupid, not TL. TL just misinterpreted things.

Also, I said "we can conclude that there are PROBABLY mafia". Probably is a wonderful word.

[JesseSheffield]

Uh...huh. You've missed the last post? The one where you've had 2 hours to read? Because, from where I'm sitting, it says you posted at 1:30 EST and my post was 11:30 EST.

And then TL voted me, 1 and a half HOURS later. 4 minutes after that, you decide to hop on the wagon because you "missed" my post..which you've had 3 and 1/2 hours to read. That shows either a lack of care or a willingness to just hop on any wagon or both. I don't buy that you "missed" my post.

Unvote, Vote: Katsuki

Okay I personally think that using time stamps as a reading of judgment on another player's gameplay is absolutely ridiculous.

I posted that, saying "they can't ALL be town with PRs, so don't think that anyone with a PR is innocent", basically. Not once did I call for a lynch of said people; I said to keep options open and stop seeing them as "town with PRs" only.

I think you're a good lynch at this moment, Katsuki. That was incredibly opportunistic.

Number one, you're having quite a bit of fun OMGUSing it seems like. Number two, there was no reason for anybody to state it in the first place, what kind of purpose does that serve?

I don't really care what you may or may not have been implying in the post, the thing that bothers me is the fact that I can't think of a reason a town player would state that.

[dramonic]

@Jesse: What's the scum motivation to posting it though?

[JesseSheffield]

Because scum are going to want to be making sure everybody's keeping their options open to any possible reason someone could be scum. If there is any little thing scum can slide in there to put doubt in anybody's mind, they'll use it.

[dramonic]

to put doubt in anybody's mind.

Because nobody was thinking that not all PR are pro-town <<

[Mafuyu]

Because scum are going to want to be making sure everybody's keeping their options open to any possible reason someone could be scum.

If there is any little thing scum can slide in there to put doubt in anybody's mind, they'll use it.

Uhhhno. Open-mindedness is a good thing. Scum try to nudge players in specific directions. There is a difference. Doubt for the sake of doubt is a dead-end strategy.

[JesseSheffield]

You're right actually, GOOD scum players do try to nudge players in specific directions.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

AGar (1): DemonHybrid
animorpherv1 (3): Framm 18, CryMeARiver, Parama
CSL (1): pacman281292
DemonHybrid (3): TheLonging, CSL, Katsuki
Katsuki (1): MafiaSSK
vezokpiraka (1): Me=Weird
Not voting (8): AGar, dramonic, JesseSheffield, Lady Lambdadelta, Mafuyu, SpyreX, vezokpiraka, animorpherv1

With

18

players alive, it takes

10

votes to lynch.

[DemonHybrid]

My vote is on Katsuki, Coug.

Number one, you're having quite a bit of fun OMGUSing it seems like. Number two, there was no reason for anybody to state it in the first place, what kind of purpose does that serve?

I don't really care what you may or may not have been implying in the post, the thing that bothers me is the fact that I can't think of a reason a town player would state that.

Number one: Look up what OMGUS means, or better yet, read this: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =5&t=15167

Feel free to eat your words.

Number two: Like I said, I didn't like everyone's subtle attitudes that those with PRs are "town with PRs". I'm reminding everyone that the possibility of scum with PRs is still there. This is about the 50th time stating this, and it's getting kinda old at this point.

[Katsuki]

Did anyone ever state that PRs were town? I only remember someone stating that PRs were scum, not the other way around, which is what drew my interest to your comments.

[animorpherv1]

@Kats:

I stated that in SWNII, two language PRs were mafia.

[Katsuki]

?

[animorpherv1]

@Lady:

Last SWN game had 3 Post Restricted people. French, Portugese and another language of which I can't remember. One of which was mafia. CSL knows that. He was in it.

[animorpherv1]

EBWOP: I just realized therethere were two Mafia PRs that were languages.

One was French PR - American Mafia

One was Portugese PR - Greek Mafia

[pacman281292]

Creo que sería demasiado pronto una alianza INQUEBRANTABLE ahora...

I think it's way too early to make an UNBREAKABLE alliance...

*agrees*
I'm wondering why the DH wagon...
*reads DH's ISO*
No, it makes no sense. Unless a serious wagon was put on AGar at the time (and I doubt that, we're 10 to lynch c'mon!), this wagon makes no sense.
lol @TL's PR. I think I got SSK's PR.

Essentially, I just need to have a few rounds of observation to see how you guys play, before I try engaging in scum hunting with yall

This is fence-sitting, and is often used by scumbags in order to hide themselves in the surroundings while trying to look like scumhunting.

unvote, vote Demon Hybrid

. For looking for an easy mislynch.

Are you sure you aren't doing the same?
Doesn't anyone else think that Ani is being hypocritical?

unvote, vote: Ani

I do agree with you.

FoS: Ani, Katsuki.

DH's 122 is very horrible. I don't get why the vote, and while the case on DH was bad as hell, DH's case is as well.

Wait, what?

SSK suspects ani but votes me? Interesting.

p-edit: I was wondering about your last quote.

No, not at all.I suspect you and voted for you. I was just cross applying the reason ani gave for voting DH as the reason for voting him. If that makes any sense.

Makes sense for me.

IMO, PRed people can be used by the mod as WIFOM, making people wonder what's going on. IMO, we should try to ignore the post restrictions as much as possible, and try to scumhunt from the "remnants". However, that will be tough to so with PRs like TL's. Damn cats...

Blergh, got tired of reread at last page, then started skimming.

Unvote

because RVS is over.

[Katsuki]

What I don't get is why people are even bothering to START conversations as to what affiliations have what PRs when we have no knowledge of it. It's utterly pointless to bother, unless certain PRs, or lack thereof, were known to belong to certain factions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have no Post Restriction.

I wonder.... We have a cat PR, and Spanish PR, an dead PR, and a minimized/spoilered PR?

Is that all our PR?

Also, DH is being FoS'd for seeking an easy lynch, Ani as well...

I get both those, but why is Katsuki being FoS'd?

I've been away :X

Finally... In this set up, is it A good idea to do a lynch with so little info? I have a feeling

that while there are probably at least 1 PR'd mafia... There are also probably multiple town sided PR's... Who also may have abilities that could help us.

FOR NOW I will

Vote:No One

unless something else comes up.

[pacman281292]

@LLD: You Unvote, don't Vote no one (unless that was your intention...)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I had not previously voted...

I'm not sure what's better to do... I don't want to be on that "not voting" list... because it seems like an inactivity thing?

I'm just voting no one as a place holder for now I guess >.<

[pacman281292]

Being in the "not voting list" is no different than voting non-existant people.