Open 233: Ninja Mafia Boogaloo - Over!

[Gammagooey]

Don't have time to look through other stuff until tommorrow, but massclaim sounds good to me.

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

Alrighty, so, first off,

vote: drmyshottyizsik

Him and his predecessor have both been very unhelpful to town. With votes he has usually given no explanation, and hasn't been that productive a member of scumhunting. As for voting history, D1 tume doesn't seem to believe in such thing as a "vote" and shotty joins the largest wagon at the time, without being the hammer. Then, on D2, shotty votes Chrono right after the cop claim. It seems to me that he wanted townie points by giving up a scum buddy who was likely going to die anyway. D3, shotty is always on Beef's wagon, who ends up flipping town. Shotty votes Kage for a little while, then switches over to the lynch wagon, making it L-1.

Oh, and as for the claim, I could go either way on it, so sure if everyone else wants to.

[singersigner]

/off topic...should be studying...

It forces scum to either gamble on a false-claim without any real communication with their partner beforehand, and it will set everyone into a position from here on out. I have a list of what we should see without any false-claims in each scenario, I can guess pretty well if we see anything, and it could theoretically weed out some people from the mislynch pool. Any objections?

The only flaw I can see in this is that if the last two are in two separate factions, forcing them to false-claim wouldn't really throw them off that much. Oh, and if by chance you're mafia, you're really just setting yourself up to not fail.

And don't count my opinion. It's not much of one anyway, lol. Like I said in our last game together, I think you're smart, so I would trust your analysis of what happens if we mass-claim (assuming you're not mafia).

[KageLord]

I have no problem with mass claim.

Top 3 are Kage, drmy and SB. Smash drew a few pings with that last VC. SB looked really bad in D1/D2, but has looked a bit better D3/D4. Kage looked null in D1/D2, but really thrusted himself into the scumlight on D3 and followed up with a strong performance D4. Drmy's slot lurked for like 3 game days, he came in and was instantly just playing bad. Not sure where to stand fully on it, but it doesn't look good. Kage/Drmy trying hard to cross bus at times?

Can you explain the part about the "strong performance D4"? Is staying on SB and ignoring growing wagons scummy now (especially if you look at my vote in context, which was when SB was messing around with Equi)?

What's this about cross bussing? If I understand that right, wouldn't that require me to be voting him (frequently or powerfully)?

[silverbullet999]

Whoah.. kage... your uh.... saying lots all of a sudden

[KageLord]

Lol, 4 posts in a week (one on Monday, one on Thursday, one just then, and I guess a 4th right now) is a lot?

[silverbullet999]

well see... the past day I nearly forgot your existence so to speak... so yup

[Papa Zito]

Despite being low in numbers, crashed in Antarctica, and fresh out of weapons, the survivors easily beat back the penguin assault. The penguins, being both stupid and stubborn, continued to come in waves, convinced that sheer numbers would eventually overwhelm the weary baseball team and bring them everlasting Guin Glory.

The air was filled with bloodied feathers.

As the sun dropped low on the horizon, the penguins began one last assault, a three-pronged phalanx of waddling beaky doom. Breathless and exhausted, the survivors rose to meet them.

Third Votecount of Day 5

2. KageLord (0):
5. Gammagooey (1): silverbullet999
6. AGar (0):
9. drmyshottyizsik (3): AGar, KageLord, smashbro_of_the_SSS
11. StrangerCoug (0):
12. smashbro_of_the_SSS (0):
16. singersigner (0):
18. silverbullet999 (2): singersigner, Gammagooey

Players not voting: drmyshottyizsik, StrangerCoug


With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The current wagon leader is

drmyshottyizsik

at L-2.
Deadline: September 11th @ 11:59PM CST

[silverbullet999]

[off topic]penguins have feathers?[/off topic]

Plz to check FAQ #3.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm cool with a mass claim
The first in alphabetical order should go first then popcorn from there

[StrangerCoug]

I'm cool with a mass claim
The first in alphabetical order should go first then popcorn from there

Why the first in alphabetical order? You generally start with the scummiest player when popcorn claiming.

[drmyshottyizsik]

that works too, I just said alphabetical so fake claims can't be purpasly pondered

[StrangerCoug]

Whichever's better for town. I was taught to start with scum.

[AGar]

/off topic...should be studying...

It forces scum to either gamble on a false-claim without any real communication with their partner beforehand, and it will set everyone into a position from here on out. I have a list of what we should see without any false-claims in each scenario, I can guess pretty well if we see anything, and it could theoretically weed out some people from the mislynch pool. Any objections?

The only flaw I can see in this is that if the last two are in two separate factions, forcing them to false-claim wouldn't really throw them off that much. Oh, and if by chance you're mafia, you're really just setting yourself up to not fail.

And don't count my opinion. It's not much of one anyway, lol. Like I said in our last game together, I think you're smart, so I would trust your analysis of what happens if we mass-claim (assuming you're not mafia).

One faction this game, so we're at 6:2 right now.

We'll do popcorn, not alphabetically. Anyone have an opposition to me starting then popcorning out?

[silverbullet999]

how does popcorn work?

[singersigner]

My understanding is that he's suggesting AGar claim first (and since he volunteered to do so, that shouldn't really be a problem), and then AGar will say "you, claim now." That person will claim, and do the same thing to someone else. That way it's more or less being dictated who will claim in what order, and scum can't just come in with a preemptive claim that they've thought up. They have to risk CCing if their false-claim is already claimed.

The first half of what I said is basically what popcorning it is, and the second half is why I think it's more effective than having everyone claim at their own rate.

[AGar]

Precisely what singersigner said. It avoids having everyone just claim at random. (Cold hands... typing is difficult and semi-painful atm).

[AGar]

If we're starting a mass-claim...

UNVOTE:

Also, I'll be on sometime this afternoon. If no one objects by then, I'll start with my claim.

[AGar]

OH Fuck, nevermind.

Guys. uh.

DEADLINE IS TONIGHT.

I'll begin.

I'm a Vanilla Townie. Drmy, go next. LET'S BE FUCKING QUICK PEOPLE.

[silverbullet999]

we should uh... get an extension... so singer can catch up...

(singer say you need a day or two more to catch up!)

[Gammagooey]

Hokays, looked at the new votecount stuffs AGar made and I'm still thinking silver/Kage scum. Kage being the first vote on silver in one votecount made me look back at stuff but it was right after silver decided to very obviously avoid questions and Equi voted him earlier, which makes bussing a lot more likely than if Kage had started the wagon himself. Your points on a possible drmy/Kage team make sense but I still think silver/Kage is more likely.

[drmyshottyizsik]

claim VT

singer your turn

[singersigner]

I'm VT. This is my only post for today. Sorry, guys. Go, go gadget: SB.

[silverbullet999]

VT

gamma

[silverbullet999]

well question... as we are getting closer to deadline, do we want to end the day with a lynch?

If so it would seem its a choice between me and dr, I'll hop on around midnight(EST) and if I'm at 4 I'll self hammer if it's wished.
More or less I'm throwing the policy lynch of distractions on myself as I've absorbed more than enough of this town's time... though tomorrow may just end up focusing on shotty anyway.