Open 249: Mayo Clinic **Game Over!**

[JesseSheffield]

So how are we supposed to find scum? Just intuition?

What do you mean how are we supposed to find scum? Play the game? It's really not that difficult. But mislynches occur when players seek out reasons for players to be scum. It's backwards logic in this game.

[drmyshottyizsik]

i wish i was the sk............

[Antihero]

Yes, especially when you call Phaen scum after she pressures you to take an opinion.

So you have an issue with me answering Phaen's question? How does this make sense?

Yes, I do have an issue with

how

you answered Phaen's question.

[JesseSheffield]

And why's that. It'd be helpful if you'd give explanations along with your posts instead of waiting to be asked.

[nopointinactingup]

So how are we supposed to find scum? Just intuition?

What do you mean how are we supposed to find scum? Play the game? It's really not that difficult. But mislynches occur when players seek out reasons for players to be scum. It's backwards logic in this game.

If there's a reason for someone to be scum, he's more likely scum than town you do realize right?

[JesseSheffield]

If there's a reason for someone to be scum, he's more likely scum than town you do realize right?

Not really. If that were the case everyone would be scum. You can finagle your way into making anything anybody says or does as scummy. So you have to have enough deductive reasoning to figure out what's really an action scum would take versus a scummy action.

[nopointinactingup]

That's why the others are there to judge who the scum is, the person making the argument or the person being directed at. If you refuse to participate, the only reason is that you are trying to fly under the radar.

[JesseSheffield]

There's a couple things wrong with that.

#1 There's such thing as town attacking town (considering they won't know who the other town are).
#2 Scum will most likely attack scum to look like they're not associated.
#3 That's exactly what I was doing, judging that their argument wasn't strong enough to really warrant any further thought.

[nopointinactingup]

So .. what you wanna do? That looks WIFOM to me.

[JesseSheffield]

Meh, I kind of want to eat my dinner.

[nopointinactingup]

o_0

[drmyshottyizsik]

WIFOM is a terrible refferance

[crywolf20084]

Vote Count: Day 1

7 to lynch; 6 to no lynch.

nopointinactingup: (3)

drmyshottyizsik, animorpherv1, Katsuki

JesseSheffield: (3)

Phaen, nopointinactingup, Antihero

Antihero: (1)

smashbro

drmyshottyizsik: (1)

Gandalf

animorpherv1: (1)

warriormode

Katsuki: (1)

Scott Brosius

Once again, any mistakes, let me know. etc etc

[drmyshottyizsik]

gandalf please put your vote some where useful or at least quit wasting it on me

[gandalf5166]

gandalf please put your vote some where useful or at least quit wasting it on me

Well, I do like the Jesse wagon.... VOTE: Jesse

[Katsuki]

Can someone summerize why there is a Jesse wagon?

[warriormode]

Can someone summerize why there is a Jesse wagon?

Well Phaen, no point, and antihero don't agree with Jesse's thoughts in this game.

As for Gandalf, I believe his vote is on Jesse cause he just wanted to be "anti-shotty" and not join the nopoint wagon.

That's all I'm getting out of this.

[Muthaa]

Hey sorry for the little absence. And since I like being lazy, cans someone summerize the nopoint wagon?:)

[JesseSheffield]

The nopoint wagon was started because nopoint was trying to validate that gandalf claimed scum and that it was accurate. So then shotty formed a wagon on him for what seemed more like meta/personal issues than anything else, animorpherv jumped right on behind because he's a follower and likes to ride other players' coattails, and Katsuki jumped on after because he thought nopoint was going after easy targets.

[Antihero]

Hey sorry for the little absence. And since I like being lazy, cans someone summerize the nopoint wagon?:)

I don't know, why doesn't Katsuki do this for us?

[Phaen]

(I must also apologize for being gone a bit.)
I too don't really understand the point of the nopoint wagon. It seems kinda random to me, but whatever. True to its name at least!

As for Jesse,

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen. Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum. That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

Ok so this brings me to my next point.

If you think I'm the most likely player to be scum, out of all the players in this game, why don't you vote me then? How sure do you have to be about someone before you're able to use your voting powers? More than 50% sure? Because I gotta tell you it's gonna be a whiiile before any one person has that high of a chance of being scum.

[JesseSheffield]

Things change in Mafia by post, you should know that. Just because someone is most likely to be scum doesn't mean they're scum, obviously. Six pages in is nowhere near long enough for me to start panicking about the day lasting to long, especially D1. It should be pretty obvious by now that I don't think you're likely to be scum. Two and a half days ago that answer would've been different. But I'm not foolhardy enough to jump the gun and pursue a wagon intending to lynch someone so early. And throw out that useless percentage system.

[nopointinactingup]

Screw them, my wagon's just full of haters.
@Jes: Voting for someone doesn't necessarily mean you consider them scum either. In fact, most votes are for pressure. If there's a quicklynched, the wagon will be revised and scum will be found. I believe playing conservative in this game will allow scums space to hide behind.

[JesseSheffield]

Your definition of conservative may be withholding a vote but it's not mine. Who knows though, you could be correct.

[nopointinactingup]

I used to play like you, never drawing my vote. But now I play the opposite. You'll see how effective it is as you continue your mafia scum career.