Mini 1034 - Castlevania Mafia (Game Over)

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count
LynchMePls (0) -
SpyreX (0) -
jenniwren (0) -
Katsuki (1) - Dekes
Dekes (0) -
Coach Travis (0) -
zwetschenwasser (0) -
McGriddle (2) - Katsuki, tanstalas
VasudeVa (0) -
tanstalas (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (10) - LynchMePls, SpyreX, jenniwren, Coach Travis, zwetschenwasser, McGriddle, VasudeVa

10 votes available, 6 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is September 30, ~ 11 pm PDT.

[Katsuki]

Meh, I wanted to review this thread over the weekend. But it's been a busy one. I skimmed the thread and came across this little post.
CT and MPR were both at L-2.
After a long, but unconvincing defence from CT (among other things like wishy-washy votes he tried to defend his wagon votes as not being wagoning. Why would you even want to do this? Since when is wagoning bad?) McG puts CT at L-1 and in the very next post katsuki quickly unvotes CT and puts MPR at L-1. Trying to save your buddy with a nice lurker wagon there to put your vote on?

Vote: katsuki

FoS: Coach Travis

I'll look into katsuki's iso, but not before tomorrow.

Two things.

Firstly, you completely took that post of mine out of context. Read my iso and then comment on that kthx.
Secondly, I did not put MPR at L1.

Either you are misrep-ing me or you have failed to bother to read properly, both of which bug me. Regardless, you did not provide a piece of proper evidence.

[VasudeVa]

@Kat:

Yesterday, you thought that CT's defense was satisfactory and tommorow will shed light on things. What do you think of CT now?

@Dekes:

Your #586 coupled with your #597 seems to say that you think the scum team is {tanstalas, CT, Katsuki}. Can you tell me the reasoning why you think they are scumbuddies? Or are you just suspecting these three individually?

@zwet:

Why did you lie there?

@Coach:

Why did you target zwet? Didn't you find him suspicious? I find your #575 very weird. You said that you tried tracking zwet, which implies that you found him suspicious at N1 then you said, in the same post nonetheless, that he's back to being your #1 suspect. Can you explain this little discrepancy here?

[Coach Travis]

@Coach:

Why did you target zwet? Didn't you find him suspicious? I find your #575 very weird. You said that you tried tracking zwet, which implies that you found him suspicious at N1 then you said, in the same post nonetheless, that he's back to being your #1 suspect. Can you explain this little discrepancy here?

That wasn't my best wording, it happens sometimes. I actually forgot that even while voting MPR, zwet was always my number one, but he indeed was. Obviously, everything else explains itself:I targeted him because he was a top suspect, so I wanted to see if I could uncover anything, to get an idea of what he's up to. Because I found nothing to convince me otherwise, he's still my top suspect. So yeah, read it as still my top suspect, not back to being my top suspect.

[Katsuki]

TBH, there is one thing about CT that erks me. He claims to have gotten no result. However, he keeps going on about how it may have been his target being track immune or stuff like that that yielded his no result. If anything, he gives me the feel of being over-defensive with his no result.

I will not automatically assume that he is lying about his track, and as thus far he has not shown anything I see as worthy of a vote, I decided to look back on D1 instead given flips. However, I do have my eye on CT. (Currently, McG sits in front of CT on my list, but the day is young)

[SpyreX]

CT is simple. I have an ACTION and he gets to target me tonight. And say who I targeted first thing tomorrow.

Thus that'll shake out or draw either a kill on me which is fine or an RB on him which opens up a new bag of worms for scum now doesn't it.

Unvote, Vote: McG

[tanstalas]

CT is simple. I have an ACTION and he gets to target me tonight. And say who I targeted first thing tomorrow.

Thus that'll shake out or draw

either a kill on me which is fine or an RB on him

which opens up a new bag of worms for scum now doesn't it.

Unvote, Vote: McG

Why do you think either or? Why can't they RB him (assuming they do have a RB) and kill you?

[SpyreX]

If they do that its about the best thing that could happen sooo go for it.

[zwetschenwasser]

dammit. I'm a cop and I got a guilty on Travis.

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote; Vote: Coach Travis

[tanstalas]

Unvote; Vote: Coach Travis

Wheee time to play follow the cop

Unvote:
Vote: Coach Travis

[jenniwren]

And this will be a short day apparently...

Vote: CoachTravis

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[Coach Travis]

Oh, wow! People actually believe that claim with all the blatant lying he's done this game? This is just ridiculous, and makes me further convinced he's scum, clearly playing off the fact that my ability failed on me, so I couldn't figure him out. I doubt he even targeted me, to be honest. If he was really a cop with a guilty, he would have brought this up the instant the day started, or at least as soon as I mentioned what happened, he wouldn't have waited until people were generally convinced to ignore me for the day. This just seems like scum wanting to remove someone they find an annoyance.

Vote:zwet

[SpyreX]

Vote: CT

That works too

[jenniwren]

Oh, wow! People actually believe that claim with all the blatant lying he's done this game? This is just ridiculous, and makes me further convinced he's scum, clearly playing off the fact that my ability failed on me, so I couldn't figure him out. I doubt he even targeted me, to be honest. If he was really a cop with a guilty, he would have brought this up the instant the day started, or at least as soon as I mentioned what happened, he wouldn't have waited until people were generally convinced to ignore me for the day. This just seems like scum wanting to remove someone they find an annoyance.

Vote:zwet

I think you're wrong about that. A cop with a guilty verdict is better off trying to get that person lynched without claiming right away so that he can live through another night. When it looked like people were not going to pay attention to you, that's when he did claim...because he

did

have a guilty verdict.

[tanstalas]

Considering you are both unverified I prefer to kill the supposed tracker over the supposed cop.

Either way, a scum dies today or tomorrow.

[Coach Travis]

He's clearly lying though, it's blatantly obvious. He's done nothing to help town this game, and now he all of a sudden makes a cop claim right when I look suspicious again for bad wording and panicking over a failed night action on him? Just seems like such an obvious way to set me up. I know keeping a cop is important, but I also know for sure he has to be fake, because I haven't lied all game, and I am a perfectly normal version of Simon Belmont, whether or not anyone else believes it.

[tanstalas]

I think you're wrong about that. A cop with a guilty verdict is

better off trying to get that person lynched

without claiming right away so that he can live through another night. When it looked like people were not going to pay attention to you, that's when he did claim...because he

did

have a guilty verdict.

I agree with the above, @the bolded part though, Zwet made no case on CT at all during this day, the only thing is we were piling on McG fairly hard. If CT does flip town I'm going to be wondering if zwet or McG should be the first person to go tomorrow (ie: maybe zwet is just a goon and McG has a scum PR)

[Coach Travis]

Oh, wow! People actually believe that claim with all the blatant lying he's done this game? This is just ridiculous, and makes me further convinced he's scum, clearly playing off the fact that my ability failed on me, so I couldn't figure him out. I doubt he even targeted me, to be honest. If he was really a cop with a guilty, he would have brought this up the instant the day started, or at least as soon as I mentioned what happened, he wouldn't have waited until people were generally convinced to ignore me for the day. This just seems like scum wanting to remove someone they find an annoyance.

Vote:zwet

I think you're wrong about that. A cop with a guilty verdict is better off trying to get that person lynched without claiming right away so that he can live through another night. When it looked like people were not going to pay attention to you, that's when he did claim...because he

did

have a guilty verdict.

The thing is, when did he ever make a serious effort to get me lynched since his supposed investigation, before claiming? That's right, never. He never attacked me before his claim post, he simply waited until I did something silly to look suspicious, then went after me with his claim. You'd think if he really was a cop, he would have tried togo after me without claiming, because it's not like there was never a case on me, and even before this some people never believed my claim. I doubt making a case on me without claiming would be hard, but he never tried, because he's not an actual cop, he just wants me gone because I've been a nuisance to him all game.

[jenniwren]

The correct play is NOT to lynch the claimed cop. If he is scum, we'll soon know. If we lynch him, we risk he cop. If we lynch CT, we risk a tracker....or do we? I think it's interesting that CT was RB'd and not killed last night. They killed someone else, either UK or someone she protected, but I don't recall anyone else claiming yesterday except Tans...why take a stab in the dark rather than killing a claimed PR?

Anyway, your logic is non sequitor. You may or may not have lied, but that has nothing to do with Zwet's guilt or not.

[tanstalas]

@Zwet - Since you outed yourself as the cop, mind if I ask what your name is?

[zwetschenwasser]

same name I claimed at the beginning of the game.

[Coach Travis]

I can understand not wanting to lynch a claimed cop I guess, even though I don't believe in the claim in the least bit, because it's impossible to get a straight up scum read on me, I'm not a miller or anything like that. Until I can indisputably prove otherwise, I'm willing to at least consider that maybe he is a cop, and the mafia did something to make the investigation turn up that way, maybe did something to me so I'd turn up scum on an investigation, I know a power like that is not unheard of(I had it in my scum game).

Because I don't want to die, I propose a way out of this, so neither of us need to be lynched:I target him again tomorrow, and if he's still alive I wait until he reveals his investigation target and their alignment, then if my power actually works, I can confirm or deny his targeting that person. If it goes through and he targets no one and is alive, I assume he was blocked, and could be a cop, same thing for if we name the same person. If I get a different name than he lists, we can assume my first guess was right and he's lying. I'd much rather do this than have either of us lynched for now, since I know I'm town.

So, going with that, I'll

unvote

Vote:Mcgriddle

because he was my next suspect after zwet, and he too has contributed pretty much nothing to this game.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't think I'm insane, and I think you're flailing.

[Coach Travis]

I'm not saying you're insane. In my theory where you're actually telling the truth, I think I was targeted by scum, so that I was somehow corrupted, meaning an investigation on me would turn up as scum. As I said, this wouldn't be the first time a power like that was used, so it's not totally impossible.