Newbie 1002: Nowherevilletownplace (D3)

[Furcolow]

unvote
vote: bazz

[Furcolow]

wagon go, gut scum read

reasons for any who want them

[MightyDarkZero]

Alright, time to post.

It's still a little hard to get a good read on people, but a few of them stood out like Furcolow and el simo. As Bazz pointed out, el simo seems to be pushing way too hard for a lynch on Zenken and Furcolow. Zenken really just comes off as new, but el simo still seems to have been pushing the attention towards him.

I'm also a little suspicious of Furcolow myself. He was also part of the wagon against Zenken, and for ridiculous reasons at that. This makes me wonder if both el simo and Furcolow are mafia and el simo was just trying to bus him. From what I understand, el simo is one of the more experienced players here so I wouldn't put it past someone like that to come up with a plan to make his teammate come off as mafia disguised as a cop to clear himself to lead mafia to victory.

Of course this is a newbie read so I could be miles off, especially since there's a chance Furcolow actually is the cop. There's still some time left so I'm gonna think things over a little more before voting, but I figured I should post my thoughts anyway since I haven't posted much.
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Update after recent posts:

Furcolow's little stunts aren't exactly helping his credibility as the "sane cop". Not to mention that almost supports my theory by him trying to defend el simo.

[Furcolow]

a chance? an un counter-claimed cop is at LEAST 50% likely to be a cop, i would actually say more than 50%

[el simo]

A newbie does not push a policy lynch, that is just hypocritical. The wagon against Zenken consisted of two votes, mine and Furcolows, that is hardly a wagon.

As for, "el simo is one of the more experiences players here so I... etc." This is nonsense. You don't read players based on your expectations of them.

Bazz you give a really poor example to defend your statement. Furcolow is probably one of the "newbiest" players in this game yet we were all ready to string him up at one point despite his claim. Why do you dismiss Zenkens policy lynch as newbie town but Furcolow as scum and disregard the fact that he is also a newb all together. Your statement makes no sense so I stand by my view. You can't read players based on set individual standards for each of then. If something is scummy it is scummy. A policy lynch is scummy, Zenken should be strung up. Deadline is running short and we have no other contenders for the lynch (well we have me now, apparently) and if we don't get somebody we are going to putting the numbers in scums favour.

[MightyDarkZero]

A newbie does not push a policy lynch, that is just hypocritical. The wagon against Zenken consisted of two votes, mine and Furcolows, that is hardly a wagon.

Whether it's a wagon or not, my comment still stands. You two have been pushing for his lynch the most and have been trying to convince others to do the same.

As for, "el simo is one of the more experiences players here so I... etc." This is nonsense. You don't read players based on your expectations of them.

I was only saying that I wouldn't doubt it. My read was based on observations and things pointed out by Bazz, not to mention the fact that if I can think up a plan like that I doubt it'd be difficult for someone else to think it up, regardless of experience.

[el simo]

regardless of experience

el simo is one of the more experienced players here so I wouldn't put it past someone like that

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Both your arguments (MDZ and Bazz) rely on logical fallacies, it's called an appeal to authority. In this specific situation you are using it backwards but it is still the same thing. See the wiki.

While you're on the wiki, check this.

[MightyDarkZero]

One comment was just to point out the plan. Another comment was my theory, which didn't rely on the comment as much as you seem to think. The latter was based on your actions, not your experience. The idea that you could come up with that plan is based on the fact that even I can come up with it.

Basically, my read on you is based on how you seem to act toward Zenken and Furcolow.

[el simo]

No it didn't rely on it at all. That is my point. It was an offhand comment that had no relevance that you used to try make a poor case sound better.

[Furcolow]

THIS POST IS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION YOU ARE NOT DUMB AND BELIEVE I AM THE COP:

a random lynch is better than a no lynch
I am the most confirmed for a day 1, as I am an un counter claimed cop
Would people agree to letting me pick a random lynch via a Random Name Generator?
I will even include my own name if you all want

MightyDarkZero (replaces cloudocean)
Zenken
Maddie
Kanashimi
ooBAZZoo
FrozenAeon
Furcolow (SE)
lobstermania (SE)
el simo (IC)

1. FrozenAeon

2. MightyDarkZero (replaces cloudocean)
3. Zenken
4. lobstermania (SE)
5. Kanashimi
6. ooBAZZoo
7. Maddie
8. el simo (IC)
9. Furcolow (SE)

our lynch, randomly, which is better than a no lynch or this being dragged 3 more days to deadline is FrozenAeon. I did this once, and I would put my word as a man on that. I am also a cop, and am town, but I will get back to the point. FrozenAeon isn't a bad lynch NOT RANDOMLY. His posts have been dismissals of my claim, which, I agree my play has been terrible, but my claim shouldn't be being talked about whatsoever. People should be scumhunting elsewhere from the claimed cop, and this isn't even acceptable for a newbie game to do this.

I'm going to vote for him, as the list randomly had this at the top. I urge anyone who is town to vote with me on this, as I can be the voice of the town for only this one day cycle so use me while you all still have me!!!

vote: frozenaeon

[el simo]

I'd much rather lynch someone who I think is scum.

[FrozenAeon]

Wait... so you're voting me randomly? How does that make any sense?

[Furcolow]

i went to a random list generator, and even put my own name in it
it is better than a no lynch for the town, or a mislynch on a claimed cop
i am trying to help
the fact you are lurking and not posting until i voted you is pretty telling that the random name generator was a success

el simo's refusal to vote is noted

[FrozenAeon]

I question the sanity of the cop. He seems pretty insane to me (hehe, I made a funny )

I don't really know what else to put. El simo didn't refuse to vote. He just said that he'd rather lynch someone scummy than a random name you pulled out of a hat. I agree with him, frankly.

[el simo]

Furcolow, why don't you note that I've got my vote on Zenken and have been advocating his lynch for the last couple of pages while bloody well everyone else has been standing around twiddling there thumbs.

How ever, good point about Frozen. His response was rather quick to that vote, despite being generally inactive the entire game.

[Furcolow]

well, ok, if you all are both town, who are we lynching? we need to lynch someone, are you all ok with me putting names in a RNG after our 3 names are taken out?

[Furcolow]

There were 6 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

1. ooBAZZoo
2. Maddie
3. MightyDarkZero (replaces cloudocean)
4. Kanashimi
5. lobstermania (SE)
6. FrozenAeon

[Furcolow]

oops i messed up, let me try that again

[Furcolow]

There were 6 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

1. Kanashimi
2. lobstermania (SE)
3. MightyDarkZero (replaces cloudocean)
4. ooBAZZoo
5. Zenken
6. Maddie

[Furcolow]

unvote: frozenaeon
vote: kanashimi

[el simo]

We're not randomly lynching someone Furcolow, we are lynching who we think is scummiest.

[Furcolow]

well, considering i'm the leading wagon with 2 votes, i would urge the town to consolidate votes around me. Thanks.

[MightyDarkZero]

And here I thought Furcolow couldn't be any more ridiculous than he already was. Apparently, I was wrong.

[Furcolow]

ridiculous does not mean i am not the cop, though, bro
therefore, we NEED TO PICK SOMEONE AS A TOWN


I vote we re-initiate the RVS
lets start this day fresh
or schedule a time we can be online. I can be online anytime, so I will abstain from picking a time.

[Furcolow]

I am sort of against re-initiating the RVS, but it's an idea. lol
People other than me need to scumhunt, as noone really believes anything I'm saying other than I'm the cop which is true.

Having a confirmed town player isn't bad, though having the most votes on one is definitely confusing.
I am going to go and do a vote count