Mini 1045: M&L:BIS! Game Over

[CSL]

yes, I did mean to write DMSIS. Sorry, dumb mistyping. I shouldn't be posting between practice and dinner, apparently lol.

In case the mod missed it,
VOTE: DMSIS

DMSIS softclaimed cop with an inno on me. Stop acting scummy.

MOD: You missed my vote on jim

[jimfinn]

I explained why I found his softclaim to be a rather scummy attempt at setting up a fakeclaim, rather than a valid softclaim. I'm going to leave my vote on for now, unless DMSIS explains satisfactorily why he tried really obvious but not flat out say he was a cop. If you're going to claim that blatantly, you should full-claim and anything else is strange.

[gandalf5166]

I'm going to leave my vote on for now, unless DMSIS explains satisfactorily why he tried really obvious but not flat out say he was a cop.

I don't need him to get in here to tell us that. Easy. He's shotty and he's too lazy to come up with a better softclaim. I believe him, since ;last night's flips make it look like this game has pretty basic roles. I would like his flavor name though.

[jimfinn]

In consideration of the character of DMSIS, I would agree that the claim could be either town-DMSIS or scum-DMSIS, now how about the D1 post I highlighted. Any opinions on that? That was the main backbone of the case, the softclaim response is tacked on.

[gandalf5166]

Once again, normal shotty behavior. I don't think it's likely he's scum because of his claim. Honestly, claims are the only way you CAN read shotty. Vanilla shotty is just a nightmare.

[jimfinn]

What games have you played with DMSIS?

[jimfinn]

EBWOP:Just wondering how much meta you have

[gandalf5166]

>.> Way too many. And I know very well that all the normal scumhunting techniques don't work. Meta, Freudian slips, etc, it all fails. The only really solid way is a vig/investigation, or a solid claim. Games like Vengeful are a nightmare.

[jimfinn]

And we don't have a Vig anymore....

Oh well, I'm going to

unvote

for now then based on increased knowledge of DMSIS meta and see if we can get some more info. Re-reading to try to get another read on someone else.

[gandalf5166]

My reason for not voting him has NOTHING to do with meta. It is entirely to do with his claim.

VOTE: jimfinn

[CSL]

gandalf is town.

[gandalf5166]

gandalf is town.

I think this is the first time anyone has said this to me when I wasn't confirmed town or scumbuddies with them >.> I've always been the null-leaning town read.

[jimfinn]

Case on Calcifer

We're pushy because we've found scum and are ready to lynch him. Join the wagon Shotty. You're the #2 wagon anyway, because people want to policy lynch you for being you. That's unfair.

This statement is encouraging DMSIS to join the Katsuki bandwagon. It is a very direct and personal statement mixed with an appeal to emotion. It sounds like a scum possibly trying to get another person onto the bandwagon for an easy mislynch.

I am Mario, the mason sibling.

Something interesting happens if I get NK'ed. Does not apply to lynch.

Where's Luigi to defend this claim?
"Something interesting?" Is it like, bad or what?

Rolefishing, as already pointed out earlier by other people.

I would rather Calc lynch, but I hope that was not a soft-claim for Luigi.

SLIP! If you were a mason with him, you would know who Luigi is!

unvote, vote Katsuki

FINALLY

something that makes an ounce of sense against Katsuki.

UNVOTE: Calcifer
VOTE: Katsuki
Goodbye.

THAT, my friends, is rolefishing at its finest. Trying to out both Mario and Luigi at the same time. XD
Goodbye, Katsuki. And really? Mason brothers? That's about as bad as claiming Beloved Princess.

Someone drop the hammer on this sucka'. He'll flip scum fo' sho'.

Demanding that someone hammer Katsuki now and expressing confidence in his scum-flip. A very aggressive scum pushing for someone to hurry up and lynch this mason before the real partner shows up, perhaps?

For these reasons, I
VOTE: Calcifer

[jimfinn]

@gandalf, I am not saying that your refusal to vote was meta-based, I'm saying that I was more suspicious of his claim until you told me about his meta, which makes his claim less unthinkable. I didn't realize what level of play we were dealing with.

[Framm 18]

Case on Calcifer

We're pushy because we've found scum and are ready to lynch him. Join the wagon Shotty. You're the #2 wagon anyway, because people want to policy lynch you for being you. That's unfair.

This statement is encouraging DMSIS to join the Katsuki bandwagon. It is a very direct and personal statement mixed with an appeal to emotion. It sounds like a scum possibly trying to get another person onto the bandwagon for an easy mislynch.

I am Mario, the mason sibling.

Something interesting happens if I get NK'ed. Does not apply to lynch.

Where's Luigi to defend this claim?
"Something interesting?" Is it like, bad or what?

Rolefishing, as already pointed out earlier by other people.

I would rather Calc lynch, but I hope that was not a soft-claim for Luigi.

SLIP! If you were a mason with him, you would know who Luigi is!

unvote, vote Katsuki

FINALLY

something that makes an ounce of sense against Katsuki.

UNVOTE: Calcifer
VOTE: Katsuki
Goodbye.

THAT, my friends, is rolefishing at its finest. Trying to out both Mario and Luigi at the same time. XD
Goodbye, Katsuki. And really? Mason brothers? That's about as bad as claiming Beloved Princess.

Someone drop the hammer on this sucka'. He'll flip scum fo' sho'.

Demanding that someone hammer Katsuki now and expressing confidence in his scum-flip. A very aggressive scum pushing for someone to hurry up and lynch this mason before the real partner shows up, perhaps?

For these reasons, I
VOTE: Calcifer

What???

Pay attention to the game. Calc was vigged by SC.

As much as I want Mallow to go bye-bye...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jimfinn

[jimfinn]

For the love of Pete! Wow holy crap I was rereading and stopped when I hit this third post thinking I had a solid case and started writing it

unvote

Too many C-names. I was think CMAR died for a second. I am so tired today. New analysis tomorrow or later, I apparently can't think today.

[CSL]

jimfinn, you are so scummy, my eyes are bleeding.

mallow tomorrow, jimfinn today.

[CSL]

gandalf is town.

I think this is the first time anyone has said this to me when I wasn't confirmed town or scumbuddies with them >.> I've always been the null-leaning town read.

Then it means your play is improving.

[jimfinn]

Apologies to everyone, I'm on 5 hours of sleep or less for almost two full weeks and I can feel myself losing focus. I did a partial reread and saw a case, but didn't read far enough to see that the person was dead. I feel dumb. Will reread tomorrow or later when I feel alive.

[dramonic]

Unvote
Vote: Jimfinn

seriously, wth

[CSL]

L-1

Claim time.

[mothrax]

I'm willing to hammer depending on claim. I didn't like his reactions to calc d1 and sc being nk'd points fingers at him as well.

[jimfinn]

I am Dr. Toadley's Assistant, Nurse. I knew that the doctor had been killed, and I was active, but I forgot who that doctor had been due to lack of sleep. I was thinking it had been CMAR. Saying that the NK implicates me is very susceptible to WIFOM. My claim means I will likely be killed tonight, but this will force the scum to use their NK on me, preventing them from using it on a stronger player.

[CSL]

I don't believe your claim.

The way you interacted with SC, and then him being killed that same night is in the way.

[gandalf5166]

I don't do WIFOM. Scum kill who they need to kill. I do NOT believe your claim. Somebody hammer.