NY 118 - BBM's Large Normal Mafia (Game!)

[Robbnva]

If I die it will be because mafia or sk kills me. Vig would be stupid to shoot me and I won't be lynched

[DemonHybrid]

K, I got my role PM. Doing a quick readthrough. Class at 5, thoughts afterwards.

[DemonHybrid]

Speaking of which, how much time do we have until the day's end? What's the votecount?

Give me a quick up-to-date while I read this....I mean, 60 pages, jesus.

[Wickedestjr]

Votecount

Wraith [9] (Gorrad, Mysterio, Benmage, ConfidAnon, danakillsu, Bunnylover, Reck, Rob, Wraith)
Mysterio [7] (Flinter, Singersigner, @.@, hiphop, Wickedestjr, Shanba, Lowell)
Prozac [1] (Kise)
UltimaAvalon [1] (UltimaAvalon)
Robbnva [1] (Xite)

Not Voting [1] (My Milked Eek)


The Mysterio bandwagon only needs four more people. @Kise, UltimaAvalon, Xite91, & My Milked Eek - Can you guys join the Mysterio bandwagon?

[Wickedestjr]

EBWOP:

What's the votecount?

Lol. I did not see this when I made that last post. That's a bit ironic.

[singersigner]

DH, iso the Mod. lol. That'll give you everything you need to know that I assume you're asking us to give you.

[Xite91]

EPICFLAIL

*sigh*
Specifically ISO #'s 1, 2, 4&6, 7, 10, 14, 15, 19 (

i love that "frank has even been scummy" part

), 24, 25 (wtf??), 28, 30, 34, just want to make a quick point on 37 - one game =/= meta EVER, 38 (

seeing a pattern to his wagoning

), 41, 45, remember my point on 37? and, 46.

There ya go.

where are ANY valid reasons in here? in fact where is a single reason? just saying post 1 is scummy is not a reason. you need to say WHY and point to a specific scum tell as to why it is scummy which you fail to do. don't waste your time now cause backtracking isn't gonna help anyone now.

First off, specific reasons bolded, second, read my WHOLE CASE on you, it shows why these things are scummy.

1. Flip flopped on frank less than 10 minutes apart
2. Providing my own opinions/theories on how I see things and how I think mafia tends to act
3. Wanting to lynch VT on day 1
4. Saying wicked must be scum if wraith is scum

1) Right
2) Wrong
3) Right&Wrong
4) Wrong

Again, it might save you time to just go back and read my case on you, here I'll even give you a link
Case on you

Tomorrow and not right now because I do not want to make a fullblown case on you from scratch today when I would already be fine with lynching the two main wagons. It might divert attention from Wraith, which you already tried to do.
I didn't even impy that, I just said that I wanted to tell people that you are scum because I might not get a chance to do that tomorrow (I might be dead).
You misunderstood completely. The reason that I am saying to vote for one of them is found in the exact same part of the thread you told me to read: the votecount.

If you die, no one will see your reasons for why I am scummy, and honestly I don't feel it will derail anything at this point, just post it and point out that you don't want it too heavily looked at until tomorrow, unless you don't ACTUALLY have anything on me.
Okay, fair enough
But do you feel either of them are scum? And there IS attention on other players, which is another reason I asked

WHY would he start a wagon, abandon it and try to start a new wagon against somebody new.

Okay, WIFOM time because this is getting ridiculous. I told you I'd use it. And it probably will get ugly.

Way I see it, here's the different scenarios to the me/wraith situation,
1) We are both scum
2) I am scum and he is town
3) I am town and he is scum
4) We are both town

1) We are both scum and I decide to bus my partner for town creds.
-Why would I randomly stop bussing him to attack another player if my town creds are assured?
--Possible reasons
The wagon was going south (But was it? nope)
There was a more likely lynch of a townie (nope)

Keep in mind that there was only mild suspicion on him in the first place, so it would be stupid to try bussing him that early anyways.

2) This would be the only likely me-scum scenario. There was mild suspicion on him, and I saw a good vantage point to get him lynched, but the same question arises
-Why would I randomly stop bussing him to attack another player if my town creds are assured?
--Possible reasons
The wagon was going south (But was it? nope)
There was a more likely lynch in general (nope)

Again, pulling that gambit would have just cause a lot of unnecessary attention and I would not have done it if the lynch was assured, which it was. Thing is, I would have gotten WAY more attention if Wraith DID flip town and I suddenly flip-flopped on him, so as scum I would have just coasted along, no?

3) We have to see his flip to really know this one (duh)
-Why would I stop attacking him?
--Possible reasons
I didn't think he was scum anymore (check)
I found a much more likely scum candidate (check)

4) This is the scenario I believe is going on, but again, we need a flip.
-Why would I stop attacking him?
--Possible reasons
I didn't think he was scum anymore (check)
I found a much more likely scum candidate (check)

Can you think of anything different?

So one of your scum buddies gonna take me out? Cause I won't be lynched

I really like this sentence. It's so overconfident, like that smile the wolf gets right before he eats little red riding hood.

If I die it will be because mafia or sk kills me. Vig would be stupid to shoot me and I won't be lynched

Wait! I called it. This looks a lot like "town will lose without me" IF there is a vig, it would be hilarious if you hit robbie (no this is NOT me directing you, it is me being highly amused)

The Mysterio bandwagon only needs four more people. @Kise, UltimaAvalon, Xite91, & My Milked Eek - Can you guys join the Mysterio bandwagon?

Considering it, because I feel that he's way more likely scum than wriath

[UltimaAvalon]

I'd prefer a Rob lynch, but if me and xite are still the only two who want to kill him by tomorrow, I promise I'll join the Mysterio wagon before deadline hits

[Robbnva]

@xite. That is not a town will lose without me

vig killing a pro town player is stupid

[Xite91]

@xite. That is not a town will lose without me

vig killing a pro town player is stupid

but nothing about you is pro-town at this point

[Robbnva]

Once again Xite your reasons are not valid and purely opinion based

[Robbnva]

@xite. That is not a town will lose without me

vig killing a pro town player is stupid

but nothing about you is pro-town at this point

there is nothing anti town about me

[Xite91]

Once again Xite your reasons are not valid and purely opinion based

I thought you were done responding to me?
Also, they're not opinion based, they're tell based, some based off of opinions, yes, but others off of pure information. Get you facts straight, then accuse me of things

[Robbnva]

Once again Xite your reasons are not valid and purely opinion based

I thought you were done responding to me?
Also, they're not opinion based, they're tell based, some based off of opinions, yes, but others off of pure information. Get you facts straight, then accuse me of things

My facts on you are not opinion , they are true scum traits

2 times you say I'm scummy for no reason- scum trait
fake day kill - scum trait
jump off your own wagon when it gets too big- scum trait
cloud thread with usless opinions about somebody who doesn't have a single vote on them instead of making cases for or against the people who have wagons - scum trait

[Wraith]

Unvote Vote: Mysterio

I have no idea what kind of defense Robb is pulling. He is attempting to discredit Xite for going after a "pro-town" player when there is very little in his favor that makes him town.

[Xite91]

Once again Xite your reasons are not valid and purely opinion based

I thought you were done responding to me?
Also, they're not opinion based, they're tell based, some based off of opinions, yes, but others off of pure information. Get you facts straight, then accuse me of things

My facts on you are not opinion , they are true scum traits

2 times you say I'm scummy for no reason-

null

fake day kill -

null

jump off your own wagon when it gets too big-

gave you reasons why town is more likely to do this

going after who I think is scum instead of who I think is the likely lynch

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town trait

Do you even read what I write? I mean, did I ask you any of that? And did you even respond to what I said?
Anyways, lets retry that. Bolded is what should have been said.

[Wraith]

I've found fake daykills/hammers to be towntells. The scum have no reason to reaction fish on someone they're about to lynch.

[Robbnva]

Unvote Vote: Mysterio

I have no idea what kind of defense Robb is pulling. He is attempting to discredit Xite for going after a "pro-town" player when there is very little in his favor that makes him town.

my facts on Xite are legit facts, you of course side with him no surprise there.

I don't need to defend anything cause I have done nothing wrong except call Xite out as scum.

[Xite91]

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my facts on Xite are legit facts, you of course side with him no surprise there.

I don't need to defend anything cause

I have done nothing

wrong

except call Xite out as scum.

Bolded + Underlined.

Anyways, I have pointed out what you have done wrong, and now you are flailing like crazy, you are so obvscum it hurts that people don't see it.

[Robbnva]

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my facts on Xite are legit facts, you of course side with him no surprise there.

I don't need to defend anything cause

I have done nothing

wrong

except call Xite out as scum.

Bolded + Underlined.

Anyways, I have pointed out what you have done wrong, and now you are flailing like crazy, you are so obvscum it hurts that people don't see it.

but I am not flailing, your case on me is based on opinion

my case on you is based on FACT of what scum does

again, I am not scum when I eventually die I will flip town and if you are alive you will be sitting there with egg on your face and feel dumb as shit and people will realize that you are scum. Hopefully you get lynched soon because YOU are so obvscum it hurts

[Robbnva]

and that full case on me I already broke it down and it all came down basically opinions.

[Robbnva]

i'm done with this thread until day 3. these rest of these people need to decide on who they are lynching. right now wraith is the no-brainer cause Xite is trying so hard to de-rail his bandwagon.

[Robbnva]

FYI to those playing at home, Wraith is L-2 so we can end this day today.

[Wraith]

Robb is attempting to down us in craplogic. Don't listen to him, let's finish the wagon on Mysterio.

So everyone can see:

DEADLINE IS TOMORROW. COMMIT TO YOUR WAGON. NOW.

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 2.18

Wraith [8] (Gorrad, Mysterio, Benmage, Antihero, danakillsu, Bunnylover, DemonHybrid, Rob)
Mysterio [8] (Flinter, Singersigner, @.@, hiphop, Wickedestjr, Shanba, Lowell, Wraith)
Prozac [1] (Kise)
UltimaAvalon [1] (UltimaAvalon)
Robbnva [1] (Xite)

Not Voting [2] (My Milked Eek, Prozac)

With 21 alive it will take 11 for a lynch and 11 for a no lynch.

Deadline:

Friday September 17th, 2010, 9:00 PM MST. This deadline is negotiable by a majority vote.
Extension [8] (Shanba, Eek, Mysterio, Xite, UA, Antihero, Benmage, Wickedest)