Last Will Mafia II (Over)

[Kmd4390]

Unofficially:
Super Smash Bros. Fan (9) - Amished, Ythan x4, Xite91, Locke Lamora, Rhinox x2
animorpherv1 (8) - Super Smash Bros Fan x3, Jahudo, Charlie, Kmd x2, holy

[Charlie]

EBWOP: Whoops, he's part of the SSBF wagon, my bad.

[Kmd4390]

If Animorph is still paying attention, he should claim.

Mod, can we get a prod on him if you are around before deadline?

[Kmd4390]

animorpherv1 is being replaced,

this will not extend deadline

Honestly, this hurts us quite a bit because if we assume Animorph to be inactive, we don't get his claim.

[Charlie]

This is quite disadvantageous.

[Locke Lamora]

Can you two explain again what's so good about the Ani lynch?

[Kmd4390]

Quick list:

The ones who I don't feel comfortable calling town

animorpherv1 - Not only the "wait, he's in this game?" player, but quick glances at vote counts don't look good. Wouldn't stand in the way of his lynch at all.

Day 3:

RichardGHP

(12) – Ythan, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Jahudo, Chronopie, Nachomamma8, Battousai, holycon, rhinox
Super Smash Bros. Fan (8) – Amished, Xite91, Plum,

MichelSableheart

, kmd4390,

RichardGHP

, Locke Lamora
Battousai (1) – animorpherv1
Animorpherv1 (1) – esuriospiritus
Not Voting (1) - Charlie

Richard lynch: Ythan, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Jahudo, Chronopie, Nachomamma8, Battousai, holycon, rhinox
Wasted/No vote:

Animorph

, Esurio, Charlie

So with at least one scum in each set...
-

Xite

and

Animorph

must be scum.
-

Rhinox and Batt

are very likely scum.

^Those are the players most worth lynching today. If I'm wrong, the next ones to look at are the ones in orange:Ythan, Smash Bras, Locke.

If Smash Bras is town, Xite,

Animorph

, Rhinox, Batt, and Locke are the most likely scum.
If Smash Bras is scum, Smash Bras, Xite,

Animorph

, Rhinox, and Batt are the most likely scum.

Ok, Charlie is now confirmed town.

Scum are:

Animorph

Amished

Pittbunny

Batt
Ythan

Twomz
Richard

Let's lynch one of them. I don't care which one.

I refuse to believe I was completely wrong here. I'd love to lynch Batt/

Animorph

at some point. I'd really like to lynch Ythan at some point. I wouldn't mind lynching Amished at some point.

Something doesn't feel right about the Smash Bras lynch.

[Kmd4390]

ISO 0:

Hey.

It looks (from the last vote count) that I have one vote. Seeing as I've never heard of the player, this may have been a good decision.

Is there anything I should be aware of/ Players I should ISO?

Comes in and

asks us

what he should read instead of just doing it on his own.

ISO 1-3: Fluff
ISO 4: Sending a will. Useful to do, but not exactly adding content to the game.
ISO 5,6: Answering questions about Carney's lack of a will.
ISO 7:

yeah, what they saud. Lots of uselsee WIFOM, even after death.

vote:CSL

Blind sheep. Throwing out the big scary "WIFOM" with no further explanation. Blatant wagon hop on a player who we now know was town.
ISO 8: Just posting to agree a "what he said" while quoting Amished.
ISO 9: Tells Xite that he is just repeating what others say.
ISO 10: Says he will vote Raider if there are enough other votes. No reason provided.
ISO 11: Votes Shattered to avoid No Lynch.
ISO 12: Comments on number of deaths. Defends Shattered vote.
ISO 13-18: All about first version of this game, number of deaths.
ISO 19: Yet another vote on a popular wagon.
ISO 20: Says "not posting enough" isn't anti-town.
ISO 21,22: Pointless one-liners that say nothing at all.
ISO 23: "Richard should be lynched"
ISO 24: Says millar should be vidged/lynched

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I feel like one page of ISO is enough to show the way Animorph played. Looks like he tried to stay in the background. Jumped popular wagons. Never explained his suspicions AT ALL. And then there is the terrible vote on Batt for "claiming cult".

[Kmd4390]

ISO 0:

Hey.

It looks (from the last vote count) that I have one vote. Seeing as I've never heard of the player, this may have been a good decision.

Is there anything I should be aware of/ Players I should ISO?

Comes in and

asks us

what he should read instead of just doing it on his own.

ISO 1-3: Fluff
ISO 4: Sending a will. Useful to do, but not exactly adding content to the game.
ISO 5,6: Answering questions about Carney's lack of a will.
ISO 7:

yeah, what they saud. Lots of uselsee WIFOM, even after death.

vote:CSL

Blind sheep. Throwing out the big scary "WIFOM" with no further explanation. Blatant wagon hop on a player who we now know was town.
ISO 8: Just posting to agree a "what he said" while quoting Amished.
ISO 9: Tells Xite that he is just repeating what others say.
ISO 10: Says he will vote Raider if there are enough other votes. No reason provided.
ISO 11: Votes Shattered to avoid No Lynch.
ISO 12: Comments on number of deaths. Defends Shattered vote.
ISO 13-18: All about first version of this game, number of deaths.
ISO 19: Yet another vote on a popular wagon.
ISO 20: Says "not posting enough" isn't anti-town.
ISO 21,22: Pointless one-liners that say nothing at all.
ISO 23: "Richard should be lynched"
ISO 24: Says millar should be vidged/lynched

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I feel like one page of ISO is enough to show the way Animorph played. Looks like he tried to stay in the background. Jumped popular wagons. Never explained his suspicions AT ALL. And then there is the terrible vote on Batt for "claiming cult".

Tags fixed.

Unvote, Vote Animorph x2

in case the CSL vote counted.

[Jahudo]

Mod: Can you ask animorph if he'd temporarily replace back in? We just want him to claim

Its kind of odd how animorph left, because he's still playing in other games as of last night. Maybe he got overloaded with games, but as long as he's still on the site he should be able to claim for us.

[Charlie]

I think you're right, Jahudo. I second that request.

[Battousai]

Newer vote count on top 2 voters:
Super Smash Bros. Fan (9) - Amished,

Ythan (4)

,

Xite91

, Locke Lamora,

rhinox (2)

animorpherv1 (8) - Super Smash Bros. Fan (3),

Jahudo

,

Charlie

, kmd (2),

holycon

Not voting the above
ani
batt

chrono

nacho

plum

esurio

prob town: esurio
lower scale town: jahudo, rhinox
lower scale scum: holy, chrono, xite, ythan, plum
prob scum: charlie

Newer vote count on top 2 voters:
Super Smash Bros. Fan (9) -

Amished

, Ythan (4),

Xite91

,

Locke Lamora

,

rhinox (2)

animorpherv1 (8) -

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3)

, Jahudo,

Charlie

, kmd (2),

holycon

Not voting the above

ani

batt

chrono
nacho

plum

esurio

Kmd-
Don't feel comfortable as calling town:
amished, xite, locke, ani

rhinox, batt very likely scum
xite, ani must be scum

smash, amished, batt scum

obv town- charlie, plum, holycon


The bottom part is kmd's stances and how it relates to his vote. Since he seemed to jump around, I wanted to check. It is most reasonable for him to vote ani as that has larger scum on it (to him). Mine is different, I left out the two lynch targets, but the final result is that ani had a rating of -2 compared to SSBF's -1 (prob town gets 2, lower scale 1, null 0, etc..). I'll be on later to vote, and make a decision, but I will like to give my vote to esurio as whichever wagon is joined, that one would have a higher number of townies until the others voice a decision as well.

[Kmd4390]

Batt, on mine, Jahudo, Chro, and esurio should definitely be green.

And yeah, I wanted to lynch Smash Bras until I saw some of the names jump on that wagon that did. It made me feel uncomfortable. See the last quote in Post 2006.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Super Smash Bros. Fan (9) - Amished, Ythan, Xite91, Locke Lamora, rhinox
animorpherv1 (8) - Super Smash Bros. Fan, Jahudo, Charlie, kmd4390, holycon
Ythan (1) - Battousai
Plum (1) - Chronopie
Battosuai (1) - animorpherv1
Xite91 (1) - nachomamma8
Charlie (1) - Plum

Not Voting (1) - esuriospiritus

animorpherv1 "prodded"
Deadline is in 10 hours.

[Charlie]

Meh, deadline is in 8 hours. My vote stays on animorpherv1 and it's not going to move for at least 8 hours.

[Jahudo]

So animorph is online.

[Battousai]

Going home, but just in case I can't get back on before deadline or before esurio gets on:

unvote, Vote:SSBF

[Kmd4390]

That makes 10 and 8.

Damn.

I'm here to confirm that I can still break any potential tie at deadline.

[Rhinox]

My vote isn't changing unless it needs to in order to secure a lynch at deadline. What brought ani to my attention was the ordeal regarding ani thinking batt claimed scum, and while I've never really felt good about him based on anything, I haven't really paid much attention to him either. I feel like my opinion of ani could change with a better player in the slot, but my opinion of SSBF is not likely to change at all.

Something for everyone to think about going into night:

Deadline is an hour after I get out of work. I'll check the votes on my phone some time between the time I clock out and deadline.

Unvote, Vote Animorph x2

Smash Bras, your Will had

BETTER

be updated. This goes for Ythan and Rhinox too going into the night. I just updated mine after the VCA TM.

This sort of feels like a scumslip to me. KMD is/was willing to lynch SSBF, and has talked about me and ythan as if we're scum, so why would town-KMD care if alleged scum had an updated will?

KMD, I'm a bit concerned after using VC analysis logic to conclude SSBF is scum, you abandon the wagon because "something doesn't feel right about it"

[Nachomamma8]

http://mafiascum.net//forum/search.php? ... 4&sr=posts

Vote: animorpherv1

[Rhinox]

nacho, ani has already requested replacement from this game, so his recent activity doesn't apply.

[Battousai]

His vote didn't count anyways. He didn't unvote. His lack of reading the thread and going straight for ani puts me more at ease for voting SSBF.

[Jahudo]

Neither of you find it odd that Ani is ignoring the request?

[Battousai]

Personally, no. We can only speculate on why he requested replacement (my guess is he doesn't find this game interesting/tired of it). He might just not care and didn't want to interfere with the game.

[Nachomamma8]

People who are being replaced don't get prodded in my book, Batt.