Nativity Mafia - Game Over, Praise The Lord!

Mr. Flay · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:14 am

Page Thirteen Vote Count, Part Two

, powered by The Count-Counter 2000:

Squonk - 3 (TonyMontana, Thoth, NanookTheWolf)
darquiel - 3 (Puzzle, Fritzler, rajrhcpfreak)
dybeck - 2 (SSB!, darquiel)
SSB! - 2 (dybeck, Squonk)

Not voting - 5 (Iammars, Werebear, This is not me, Astronaut, Tyfo)

8 to lynch.

Iammars · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:17 am

Puzzle wrote:
Iammars wrote:
Puzzle wrote:
Iammars wrote:Yeah, cause the sheperds don't like rBabyJesus...

That sounds right, but isn't a vanilla townie a safer lynch than most?
We don't need safe lynches on day 3.

Vote Darquiel
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You are misinterpreting what I said. I didn't say that he was a safe lynch, I said that he was a safer lynch than most.
Sorry for that :
We don't need safer lynches on day 3 after lynching two townies. We need to lynch mafia, who we've not hit yet.
Better ?

Better.

Unvote

Now, back to researching Tungsten...

dybeck · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:18 am

Wait a cotton-picking minute...

There are no 'bad guys' in the story of the nativity.

Which means that some other group from the story has been nominally decided to be the 'mafia' for the purposes of this game.

In the story of the nativity, there are two 'groups' - the Magi and the Shepherds. The Magi are the masons; i don't think it's implausible to think that the shepherds, as the only other group, are the mafia.

Add to that the craplogic. Add to that the early claim.

unvote, vote: Squonk

Iammars · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:20 am

Or there could be multiple Serial Killers, or a cult (King Herod maybe?). There are many other possibilities here. Also, maybe I missed this, but where did the magi claim?

And, yes, I will actually go back to researching Tungsten. I just like to procrastinate a lot...

TonyMontana · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:47 am

Iammars wrote:Or there could be multiple Serial Killers, or a cult (King Herod maybe?). There are many other possibilities here. Also, maybe I missed this, but where did the magi claim?

*points to dead BJ*

Iammars · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:51 am

TonyMontana wrote:
Iammars wrote:Or there could be multiple Serial Killers, or a cult (King Herod maybe?). There are many other possibilities here. Also, maybe I missed this, but where did the magi claim?
*points to dead BJ*

Who says we can't have two cults?

Fritzler · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:30 pm

dybeck wrote:Wait a cotton-picking minute...

There are no 'bad guys' in the story of the nativity.

Which means that some other group from the story has been nominally decided to be the 'mafia' for the purposes of this game.

In the story of the nativity, there are two 'groups' - the Magi and the Shepherds. The Magi are the masons; i don't think it's implausible to think that the shepherds, as the only other group, are the mafia.

Add to that the craplogic. Add to that the early claim.

unvote, vote: Squonk

No, he's innocent.

unvote, vote: dybeck

TonyMontana · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:48 pm

Iammars wrote:
TonyMontana wrote:
Iammars wrote:Or there could be multiple Serial Killers, or a cult (King Herod maybe?). There are many other possibilities here. Also, maybe I missed this, but where did the magi claim?
*points to dead BJ*
Who says we can't have two cults?

I no get it.

You say where did magi claim. I point to BJ. Which was confirmed mason.

Iammars · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:55 pm

Er... right, I looked at Peacebringer.

Astronaut · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:08 pm

Fritzler wrote:No, he's innocent.

Saying things like that begs the question "How do you know"?

Fritzler · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:14 pm

Astronaut wrote:
Fritzler wrote:No, he's innocent.
Saying things like that begs the question "How do you know"?

I'm also "A shepard" vanilla townie.

This is not me · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:17 pm

if anyone havent noticed i can confirm that he is good,at´least when he is not a godfather.

Puzzle · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:23 pm

I'm not a shepherd but can say that there is very probably more than 1 shepherd in the game indeed. The possibility of GodFather is still here for Squonk but Fritzler wouldn't have backed him up like that if he was one.

Thoth · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:53 pm

unvote:Squonk

Having multiple's definitively convinces me that his claim is real. He could still be scum, but for now that's unlikely enough to vote him.

Squonk · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:24 am

Good. Now that we tend to agree that I'm innocent, I would still appreciate those who attacked my posts with the term "crap logic" to explain WHY they do not agree with the applied logic. I still maintain that my logic was sound.

Puzzle · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:48 am

#264 was crap because it scapegoats Dybeck lightly.

Your previous vote on Dybeck sounded a bit too eager also and the "cop-tell" reasoning falls in the bin considering that :
- we have lynched a paranoid cop.
- there is already another claimed cop.

Squonk · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:54 am

Point taken ont he Dybeck thing. But...

Puzzle wrote:the "cop-tell" reasoning falls in the bin considering that :
- we have lynched a paranoid cop.
- there is already another claimed cop.

I beg to disagee. We know we had a a paranoid cop, which opens up the possibilities of a quartet of cops of varying degrees of usefulness, as sometimes used in bigger games. The fact that we have another player claiming cop only strengthens that possibility, it does not weaken it.

This is not me · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:23 am

yeah,but if we have less docs than cops..... anyway 1 question.should i tell before night who i invegeste or is it better to keep a secret?

Puzzle · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:35 am

Never say who you investigate. If he's innocent, he'll show up dead the next morning.

dybeck · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:50 am

It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...

Puzzle · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:52 am

dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...

I'd rather have a cleared living townie than a cleared dead townie but maybe that's just convention.

Fritzler · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:05 am

dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...

Yea, I'll probably die tomorrow, your fault. Woe. At least I confirmed a townie before I left.

Puzzle · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:10 am

Fritzler wrote:
dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...
Yea, I'll probably die tomorrow, your fault. Woe. At least I confirmed a townie before I left.

I think the question was even about who he'll investigate beforehand.

Now, a vanilla townie may not be big enough a fish for the Mafia to kill...

Fritzler · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:12 am

Hope so.

dybeck · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:04 am

Puzzle wrote:
dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...
I'd rather have a cleared living townie than a cleared dead townie but maybe that's just convention.

Heh. Your facetiousness belies the fact that I actually do have a point, which I've actually thought through. If you'd like to hear it, you're welcome to PM me - I'm not gonna hijack this thread with a strategy discussion.