Magician's Mafia: The Hypnotists, Game Over

[Fate]

Ghost you DO have the hammer, what are you smoking?

Blackmist is NOT allowed to hammer with out a full game content post.

@Ellie: I'll tell you later, just remember my scumlists.

[vezokpiraka]

Yes I do remember. But I feel a little dissapointed elli is scum.

[GhostWriter]

You're not going to like me most of this game, Fate, I don't think. I tend to rebel against being told I have to do something "or else" when I don't see the reasoning behind it the others see. I can understand you wanting me to hammer, I really can. You get a townread on me, you get a scumread on him, you don't want that townread to be loss so that you don't have to focus as much attention on me as on others and can scumhunt more efficiently. But I cannot just blindly follow others. Perhaps if he continues to flounder around after whatever rehearsal he's at, I can see enough reason to hammer him without his claim (because I am not liking the lack of a claim nor the "no intent to hammer" card), but I intend to hold onto the fact that Dana should be dying today. I hope you can understand that, as you also seem like the type of person who doesn't just do what people want because they tell you to.

[Razgriz]

Fate you quoted. [o.o]

And so did Elli O_o.

Still waiting for claim...

[danakillsu]

I'm a little miffed that everyone thinks I'm scum, but no one will tell me why...

[Ellibereth]

Oshi I totally forgot.
And I was wondering what vezo was going on about. >.>
My bad.

[GhostWriter]

I actually wanted to talk about that, and I'm glad you brought that up, Raz: We need to discuss self-quoting. Fate self-quoted and I had been wondering about it last night. It seems like it'd be safe enough, but is it?

[GhostWriter]

Also, iso post 3 pretty much was my red flag for you, Dana, followed by the fact that you ignored when I questioned it and then began to assume I had you pegged as scum for something I didn't. I mean, I assume you were talking about me calling you scum since I'm the only one voting you. If you were not talking about me, then that's even scummier to me, because that means you can question the motives of people not voting you but choose to ignore the person actually on you.

[Toogeloo]

woo! I'm back ^_^
Repair center was quick, so I am back from V/LA early!

Initial thoughts after first reading:
-Gandalf not taking this seriously, but from what I can tell, no attempt to derail is being made (this lynch too easy?). In fact, it seems more likely that gandalf was the derail from the MPR lynch.
-Immediately suspicious of animorph and Anti-hero who have almost completely disappeared, and are probably in need of prods.
-Too many defensive players over small comments, looking at dana and Black Mist to start with, several players also using the "I didn't know the rule," excuse when it comes to quoting which leads me to suspect for not reading.
-The "chat" between Fate and Ellibereth making me nervous as possible scum day talk.
-Day is still young, how serious is everyone with ending day already?


Thoughts after second reading:
-I'm having a hard time seeing Fate as scum, though he does break his own rules. This leads me to disbelieve there is some kind of scum day talk going on between him and Elli, and it's just something they are doing (maybe Masons?).
-There have been some attempts at derailing gandalf that I have noticed now in hindsight; Ghost is coming off really strongly about it while being very "town" in the process, but in actuality, I don't think people are even aware if the game has actually turned serious or not, so any attempts at a derail may not have even been considered yet.



Consider this an "intent to hammer post" gandalf. While I am not 100% sure as most the players on your lynch are, I do think between your wagon and MPRs wagon, something might be analyzable. I do wish for a slightly longer day, but two wagons to L-1 is pretty info holding.

Ghost is making me nervous, but it's probably paranoia. He has been quite vocal about the two main wagons so far, and may be attempting to come off town in appearance while hiding the fact that he actually knows something. Willing to give him a little slack because of his behavior, but definitely worth keeping an eye on him.

@mod: requesting prods of animorph and Antihero.

Lurkers make me very nervous, town tends to implode with them.

Also suspicious of Black Mist and dana. I really don't like the defensive nature of their posts as if they feel they don't deserve suspicion. It's day 1, everyone deserves suspicion; to combat it, look more pro-town and scum hunt.


I did mention that I had intent to hammer gandalf, Fate seems to want Ghost to do so. Not a good idea to direct us, telling Ghost to hammer is a way of giving him a pass to do something. Regardless of what happens from gandalf's lynch would likely not come back around Ghost in any way if he were to hammer because he was directed to. If gandalf is scum, Ghost won't get credit for the hammer, and if gandalf is town, Ghost won't get scrutiny for being the hammer.

Of the two inactives, animorph is probably the most suspicious because he seems to have ducked out after making the comment of who gets lynched tomorrow. It comes off to me that MPR could be town, ani knows it, and was trying to direct tomorrow's activity.



That's about all I got so far... sorry it ended up being a bit of a ramble. My thoughts typically do that >_<.

[Toogeloo]

Sorry for the WoT... being away for a few days tends to come back as a WoT since I like to get all my thoughts out >_>

[Razgriz]

I'm going to short analyize this insanity

[gandalf5166]

All right, my ability's now useless. I'm the great Zandolfini, I am told if I ever get hypnotized. I'm not told who hypnotized me, or what I was hypnotized to do, only that I was hypnotized. I wasn't hypnotized last night, btw.

[Razgriz]

Zandolfini, lol funny name.

Anyways I will UNVOTE: gandalf because unless there is a counter-claim we shouldn't lynch him.

When you say your ability is useless now do you mean you lost it when you claimed?

[GhostWriter]

No, he meant that no one will ever be stupid enough to attempt to hypnotize him.

[gandalf5166]

WAT HEI SED.
On another note, I almost quoted.

[Antihero]

Catching up, sorry for the short absence...

[Toogeloo]

The claim bugs me. Why would you bait people to pressure for your hammer/claim, and then come out, "well, I'm useless now," it doesn't make sense to me. I would almost think you would want to be baited to be hypnotized, instead you didn't care whether you were going to have to claim or not and were prepared to just give your role up.

On top of this, you could simply run with a claim in the coming days, "zomg, I was hypnotized last night, I am so town!"

To me it just doesn't add up. Anyone have other thoughts, or am I just being paranoid?

[gandalf5166]

When the FUCK did I bait for my claim? In fact, I pretty much did everything possible to say PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ME CLAIM.

[Fate]

[caps]k guys one more page, three lurkamigos answert my questions, then hammer this obvscum. terrible fakeclaim btw gandalf[/caps]

[Razgriz]

Lol Fate, lol. That is all I can say. I don't see why he would fake claim a powerful role like dat. Just sayin

[gandalf5166]

^^I'm assuming that post was sarcastic?

[Fate]

wow YOURE his buddy Razgriz?

You can't see any scum motivation for that claim even though Panda clearly points out why in his last post?

GfrigginG. How many scum are in this game assuming 1 team?

[gandalf5166]

When the FUCK did I bait for my claim? In fact, I pretty much did everything possible to say PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ME CLAIM.

[Fate]

Hey gandalf, you're going to die on page 10. Still no reads or content? LOL

Faking scumhunting really isnt that hard supergenius.

PE:DID YOU JUST FUCKING QUOTE ME AGAIN?

[Fate]

OH YOU quoted yourself.

LOL EVERYTHING POSSIBLE?

You didnt even ATTEMPT to scumhunt or derail your wagon, so thats complete BS. All you did was resign yourself with a "nooo claimin till l-1"

You didn't even flail like town PRs flail