A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[diddin]

Guys let's not rush this day. Half of the people in the game don't even know the day has started yet.

MOD: I would suggest changing the topic title.

unvote

since a quickhammer pretty much screws us over at this point.

[Eddard Stark]

Vote count 6.1 - The "I just want to hear him say 'Thaphirth' " votecount.

Macavitar (2) -

CSL, RichardGHP

Not voting (4) - Macavitar, Thor665, MagnaOfIllusion, diddin

With 6 alive it takes 4 lynch. Deadline found here

[CSL]

I was going to lynch MoI in lylo anyways.

FoS CSL

Why the finger?

Answer, please.

[RichardGHP]

Oh, that.

"Hope Unsight is scum", you said. Or something to that effect. It has the same connotation as publicly congratulating the doctor after a no kill, or cursing after a PR dies. Trying too hard to look town.

[CSL]

I see.

[RichardGHP]

Is that all you have to say about that?

[CSL]

Yeah. Why?

[RichardGHP]

No reason. Just wanted to know for various intents, possibly purposes.

[Macavitar]

Can people please unvote so we can make this day work for us? There's a lot we have to do today. L-2 is basically a position where the scum can work together to end the day, if that's in their best interests. If I get lynched, there's every chance you'll end up in a 1-1-1 kingmaker scenario or a 2-1 LYLO tomorrow, and I'd like at least some chance to get us to lynch scum today.

First of all, nothing's really changed in regards to my claim. Brienne was in the game, I was looking for her. It all makes even more sense now that hascow flipped vanilla. I targeted hascow over last night to recruit, as was obvious, and the Lannister had to kill hascow last night no matter what, so that I continue to look dirty. There's no new information there.

Secondly, with Mina flipping Tracker, there

is

potentially additional information to be had. We need to go back through her posts (and maybe hascow's too), to see if there are any crumbs as to clearing people of being one scum family or another. Right now, as far as I see it, we've got the following:

Potentially Either Family

Magna
CSL

Not Greyjoy

diddin - Name claim confirmed by Locke
Mac - Track to not-the-Greyjoy kill target by Mina

Almost Certainly Not Either

Richard - Name claim connected to JVW
Thor - Day vig

But if we dig through some of Minas' posts, we might find more clearings, or useful information. Am I missing anything there right now?

Richard, I'm not understanding this exchange:

Magna is scum?

Vote: Macavitar

I suppose. Pity it didn't work out.

I mean, I still like Magna for Greyjoy too, but why isn't it CSL? We need to narrow down suspects before we make today's lynch happen.

[RichardGHP]

I was responding to diddin, not CSL.

[Macavitar]

Ah, I see. Makes sense then. Can you unvote please?

[RichardGHP]

And I don't really see CSL as any sort of scum, to be honest. If anything he reads as Third Party but that's long gone.

[RichardGHP]

Mac. Do you find it more likely that there are 2 scum on the same team left or two opposing sum?

[RichardGHP]

*Scum

[Macavitar]

And I don't really see CSL as any sort of scum, to be honest. If anything he reads as Third Party but that's long gone.

Why not scum? Can you actually read CSL?

Mac. Do you find it more likely that there are 2 scum on the same team left or two opposing scum?

Almost certainly 2 opposing scum. Doesn't mean they couldn't independently decide to try to end the day as quickly as possible to reduce town information gathering/coordination and in the process ensure that they don't get lynched themselves.

[Macavitar]

Oh, by the way, if you're pretty certain about CSL-not-scum, your choice for a lynch is obvious: Magna is the only other player remaining who could be Greyjoy.

[RichardGHP]

There is still the whole Cow/you/mason thing...


and I very much doubt that the two opposing sucm you speak of know who each other are. Correct me if I am wrong?

[RichardGHP]

Unvote

If there was ever a rock and a hard place.

[Macavitar]

There is still the whole Cow/you/mason thing...

Yes, there is, and I'm confused about the point you're trying to make here.

and I very much doubt that the two opposing sucm you speak of know who each other are. Correct me if I am wrong?

No, they probably don't, but I'm just saying that L-2 is a way too precarious position to be in at this point in the game.

Preview edit: Thanks.

[Macavitar]

Oh, by the way, if you're pretty certain about CSL-not-scum, your choice for a lynch is obvious: Magna is the only other player remaining who could be Greyjoy.

Oh, holy crap. CSL, this goes for you too. If you're not scum, why aren't you voting for Magna, the only possible Greyjoy remaining? Why are you Lannister hunting? Is it because you are in fact Greyjoy?

[RichardGHP]

Is there anything wrong with hunting a specific team?

[Macavitar]

Examine from CSL's perspective. If CSL is actually town, then there are 3 possible Lannisters: Me, diddin, Magna; but only 1 possible Greyjoy: Magna. Let me repeat: If CSL is town, then from his perspective Magna is

guaranteed scum

. If CSL is town, why should he care which team he's hunting? If he

knows

that Magna is scum, why would he vote me?

[RichardGHP]

Remind me how you and diddin are cleared of being Greyjoy?

CSL probably thinks you're confirmed scum as well. You aren't, but you're not far from it.

[RichardGHP]

Do you think that a mislynch today puts the game into Kingmaker on Day 7?

[Macavitar]

Remind me how you and diddin are cleared of being Greyjoy?

I

just

put it in a post.

Not Greyjoy

diddin - Name claim confirmed by Locke
Mac - Track to not-the-Greyjoy kill target by Mina

Let me make it more clear. For diddin, his confirmed name is Sandor Clegane. Purely by flavor, there is

no way

that Sandor is a Greyjoy. He's never worked with them, never crossed their paths. Literally everything else in this game has been flavorful, and making Sandor a Greyjoy would very much not be. Feel free to check an ASoIaF wiki.

As for me, over Night 4, I was Tracked to Mikujin. Mikujin was not the Greyjoy kill over Night 4, Locke Lamora was. Unless I can go two places at once, and the Track only follows me to one of them, I can not be Greyjoy.

CSL probably thinks you're confirmed scum as well. You aren't, but you're not far from it.

Don't make excuses for him. This might be a legitimate scum tell.

Do you think that a mislynch today puts the game into Kingmaker on Day 7?

Not necessarily, but it is a plausible outcome.