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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:34 am

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:34 am

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VOTE COUNT

animorpherv1 (1): Maemuki
Framm 18 (6): AGar, xRECKONERx, Me=Weird, DemonHybrid, Katsuki, vezokpiraka
Mafuyu (3): dramonic, CSL, bv310
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:35 am

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Why is Framm's vezok case so weak?
Who am I even voting right now?
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:39 am

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UNVOTE: VOTE: Framm_18

I still feel that Katsuki needs to be looked at again tommorow, so
FoS:Katsuki
, but at this point the case against Framm is so strong... :X
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:42 am

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In addition, Katsuki has kept quiet, and hasn't done much of anything scummy (or much of anything at all) since my last FoS of her.

Framm has just been constantly saying things that are weird and doing things no townie should...

/NOT/ that I do any better... I don't think I'd know what a good townie should do if it hit me in the face :X
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:47 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: Framm_18

I still feel that Katsuki needs to be looked at again tommorow, so
FoS:Katsuki
, but at this point the case against Framm is so strong... :X
More votes for me please, seeing as how I can't think of any other ways to get out of this lynch, and claiming would do me no good.

I will still file away the make an anti-town post and then have people attack those who find it scummy, when I am scum. That is a horrible excuse for a case for my lynch, but whatever. Then saying that me looking for an easylynch is scummy, in and of itself, makes voting me an easylynch, but once again, whatever.

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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:50 am

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The problem is how Framm ends his posts. There are patchwork statements, dares, disinclinations to care, etc. It's a myriad of footnote emotions which don't serve any continuous purposes other than to just make him seem scummy (and therefore not?). It's a mess.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:53 am

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He truely is an enigma. I get a sense that I'm doing something wrong by voting him. It just doesn't feel /right/...

But I can't deny facts...
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:57 am

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Honestly, he might just be better as vig-bait.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:57 am

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unvotar; votar: Framm
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:59 am

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Unvote.

Lady Lambdadelta wrote::S

Gomen Nasai. I think that statement was taken the wrong way. I was just trying to explain my reasons for not switching votes, when it seems like Framm is a more solid lynch. I want to be able to play more than 2 days in this game, as it is my first. -shrugs- This will probably make me look more scummy... But all Im trying to do is ensure that I don't make some kinda of dumb accusation, which will lead to a wasted lynch on me, which in turn means I can no longer play in the game >.<

Does that make sense? :S
This reads like scum tripping over themselves to remove their foot from their mouth after getting stumbled up on an innocent slip.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:21 am

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Well. The fact is that all his votes have been somewhat suspect. However, until the Vezo vote, I didn't see any conclusive evidence of his scummy nature. It was merely being implied by /YOU/.

The vezo post/vote put serious doubt in my mind.

Also, allow me to ask the following. For one who was so certain of Framm's guilt, why are you now abandoning something that you started? I followed /YOUR/ opinions, because I thought you were making a good deal of logical sense. Especially in your big (+1/-1) town analysis. Because of you, I kept an open mind about Framm, and now switched because of an overwhelming amount of evidence that YOU have presented. This fact of me being swayed so easily by your post may seem even more scummy than you already think I am... But I felt that you brought a lot of clairity into a situation that was total chaos.

For you to now go back and renege on that really makes me wonder what the hell you were trying to accomplish with this wagon?

I do not deny that what I said was... Somewhat anti-town. I realize that I am doing way too much fence sitting, as mafuyu puts it, and am trying too hard to be seen as Town. I recognize these are scummy traits. What I would like you to see is that my reason for doing them was not to go against town... I just don't want to be lynched day 1, with little more than a suspicion against me in my first game. I realize now that if I want to stat in the game, the best way to do it is to just play it out, and stop worrying about appearences.

This has been my mistake from the beginning, and if I am lynched for it, I understand. However, I would ask that you give me a chance to prove I can be useful to town.

Finally, to restate my answer to your question above... If you want to see conclusive evidence against Framm...
GO READ YOUR OWN POSTS. Above all else, you have pointed out every bit of evidence against Framm.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:42 am

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Also, before you come back and FoS me for "not answering your question" ( I feel like ai poorly expressed what I was trying to say in that last post)

Allow me to attempt to clairfy:

I feel that Reckoner is the most active pro-town atm. This does not mean he is not scum, this merely means he is aiding town greatly.
My vote on Katsuki was based on her trying to shift attention on to CSL, and direct the lynch his way, when being questioned about her motives.
I kept with this suspicion, until your case against framm began to grow.
Your posts put serious doubt in my mind about Framm.
This being said, my vote was swayed based off of his collection of Vezo quotes, and his backwards logic in claiming they were evidence against him.


That should answer your question.

Last note:
I recognize that my actions have been suspicious.


This being said, I am doing my best to rectify these mistakes, and play with a more pro-town attitude, and less of a survivor mindset.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:59 am

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Mafuyu wrote:The problem is how Framm ends his posts. There are patchwork statements, dares, disinclinations to care, etc. It's a myriad of footnote emotions which don't serve any continuous purposes other than to just make him seem scummy (and therefore not?). It's a mess.
With the exception of my last post, most of them have just been me, fulfilling my PR. I know that they are probably not the best ways to end my posts, but I am having a hard time incorporating it into my posts. So I just throw it on the end of my posts.

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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:03 pm

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LL, nothing you said in 561 accurately answers this question:
xRECKONER wrote:
What exactly is so strong about the Framm case in your opinion, LL?
You say you thought the reasons I presented were strong:
what reasons
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You say the evidence I presented was overwhelming:
what evidence
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I didn't present the vezok quotes, Framm did. So what, specifically, in my posts about Framm, did YOU find particularly agreeable?

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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:03 pm

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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:18 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:LL, nothing you said in 561 accurately answers this question:
xRECKONER wrote:
What exactly is so strong about the Framm case in your opinion, LL?
You say you thought the reasons I presented were strong:
what reasons
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You say the evidence I presented was overwhelming:
what evidence
?

I didn't present the vezok quotes, Framm did. So what, specifically, in my posts about Framm, did YOU find particularly agreeable?

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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:26 pm

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Oh, and if you seriously want me to go back and list every single reason why I think Framm is scum... You'll have to wait. Because that would require me quoting and explaining everyone one of his posts, as well as all of yours.

I understand you are trying to seeif I have a reason, or if I'm simply following a bandwagon... But please do not confuse my shyness for stupidity. Your question is loaded, because even if I go back and gather the evidence, you will simply state that I am spouting what you have said, and then FoS me for following your bandwagon.

It's whatever at this point really. I'm too lazy to go bak and say the same shit you have pointed out a thousand times again... It's a waste of everyones time.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:29 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

My vote on Katsuki was based on her trying to shift attention on to CSL, and direct the lynch his way, when being questioned about her motives.
I kept with this suspicion, until your case against framm began to grow.
Your posts put serious doubt in my mind about Framm.
This being said, my vote was swayed based off of his collection of Vezo quotes, and his backwards logic in claiming they were evidence against him.

Is this enough for you, or do I need to seriously lay out all the facts you have given already...?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:48 pm

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If you want more... I can mention his RVS on Ani, and then how he FoS'd Vezo with very little reason, keeping his vote on Ani. You claimed this was his testing the waters for an easy lynch. I agreed.

His scrambling to create evidence against Vezo, by quoting all those posts, then voting for him. That is what tipped me to voting him.

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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:01 pm

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I smell diesel fuel from the greek woman.

Still, Framm is the optimal lynch, her being scum to me really hinges on a Framm flip.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:43 pm

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Unvote, Vote: Framm18


Sadly, I agree with Reck's reasoning here.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:48 pm

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AGar wrote:I smell diesel fuel from the greek woman.

Still, Framm is the optimal lynch, her being scum to me really hinges on a Framm flip.

You just gonna stand there and watch me burn?

That's alright, cause I like the way it hurts...
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:32 pm

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Why are we quoting Rhianna?

Oh, right. Scum have no answer when they're caught obviously bussing.
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