Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[camn]

TBM's is not an actual accusation, though, if you look

closely

.
He is describing my behavior as 'obvscum', which is simply a descriptive meme on this site.

Being

'obvtown' or 'town' or 'scummy' or 'obvscum' is something anyone can do regardless of alignment.

He knows I am actually town, and that knowledge leaks out in his verbage.

I, on the other hand, am actually accusing him of being scum. As in, a member of the anti-town mafia faction.

[jenniwren]

jenni asks for people to stop lurking then begins to lurk herself

To be fair, almost everyone is somewhat lurking at this point (except camn, who has been pulling teeth to get discussion going); we have spurts of activity (like this afternoon), and then noooothing. I've just been lazy. Derp.

Anyway...

--mongoose: My RV was on him because of no avatar, which was random, but he reacted very defensively, so I kept it there. Now he's just talked himself into a corner. Also, this post is loaded with AtE:

Answer to that post: I do contribute, just not as much as everyone else. If you think I am scum, lynch me. Its your problem, if I die, playing down one town member, not mine. Even though that sounds really scummy, I'm sure. I cant defend myself much to be honest. I just didnt see anything too scummy beofre. When I saw something I jumped

--Katsuki, do you still find Tans scummy? What about Budja or TBM?
--Budja, what is your take on Katsuki? Or rather, what is your relationship to Katsuki?
--TBM: Is this a little handsaw?

Mongoose is as useless as a screen door on a submarine however the way the wagon built on me seems slightly off, in particular Kat's vote for him seems equally opportunistic and lazy.

Also, in that same post, you question Budja's comment that Kats is townish, but you never really say anything about her (except to tell her to post content). What do you think about Katsuki?

@Elli: Two scum from the mongoose wagon? Kats and Budja.

@Katsuki, I am a lot less certain. Convince me to stay.

If Veso is a VI, he needs to die.

My view on veso switched from scummy to anti-town. If veso doesn't pick up, perhaps, but for now I am null on his scumminess.

Lets quicklynch. I want to taste blood. And get to the bottom of these night mechanics.

All the info is at our disposal (besides who is a heavy/light sleeper). If you want a quicklynch, build a very convincing case.

@camn,

I've picked up a few town reads but scum reads are in limbo

.

Only town reads? Really? Also, the comment to Katsuki is...interesting...it's in regards to Tans and Kats' affirmation that he was definitely scum. Why ask Kats to convince you to stay on the wagon?

Conclusion

1) Mongoose has maintained a mildly nervous energy from the beginning; defensive reaction to the RVS vote, some curious comments, and now some AtE.
2) The mongoose wagon surely has scum somewhere on it; at least one, maybe two. (But I think the third scum is not on the wagon.) Could be Katsuki or Budja.
3) TBM has avoided the mongoose wagon; why? If mongoose is town, he could be the missing third, and if he's scum, TBM could be his buddy.

Scum reads:

mongoose and TBM; then either Kats or Budja. If mongoose is scum, then I think the third would be Budja based on TBM's little blurb about Katsuki; if he flips town, then I think TBM, Kats, and Budja would be likely scum based on their interactions.

I will connect the dots better later, but it's 4:30 a.m. and the logic is slipping away...

[TheButtonmen]

@Jenn:

What do you think about Katsuki?

She's either lazy town or opportunistic scum, based on her most recent posts I'm leaning scum.

3) TBM has avoided the mongoose wagon; why?

Two reasons.

A) Every active player being on one wagon is pointless

B) The pressure on him doesn't extract anything new and/or pertinent, he is just a place for lurkers to park their vote in an attempt to look like they are participating.

@Camn:

Stop trying to paraphrase and/or summarize me you suck at it, stick to quotes.

Let me clarify my stance towards you as you are apparently unable to interpret simple English; I find your actions scummy, I find their timings incredibly scummy, and I think it's likely that You. Are. Scum.

[Ellibereth]

Ugh. I'm getting conflicted on mongoose.
Gut says he's frustrated town and all that....I need to think.

[Ellibereth]

DGB, DOMINO needs a PROD

[Ellibereth]

And I think tans too in a few hours...

BUTTON, I HAVE NO CLUE WHY YOU THINK CAMN IS SCUMZ. None.
Gut or did I miss post saying why?

[Pomegranate]

Conclusion

1) Mongoose has maintained a mildly nervous energy from the beginning; defensive reaction to the RVS vote, some curious comments, and now some AtE.
2) The mongoose wagon surely has scum somewhere on it; at least one, maybe two. (

But I think the third scum is not on the wagon.

) Could be Katsuki or Budja.
3) TBM has avoided the mongoose wagon; why? If mongoose is town, he could be the missing third, and if he's scum, TBM could be his

Scum reads:

mongoose

and TBM; then either Kats or Budja. If mongoose is scum, then I think the third would be Budja based on TBM's little blurb about Katsuki; if he flips town, then I think TBM, Kats, and Budja would be likely scum based on their interactions.

I will connect the dots better later, but it's 4:30 a.m. and the logic is slipping away...

You seem to imply that mongoose isn't (the third) scum (because he's obviously not on his own wagon), but then you list him as your first scumread.

Pom is confused with you.

[vezokpiraka]

Oh.
WTF.
Obvscum in front of me and I don't vote him?

unvote
vote mongoose

[jenniwren]

Conclusion

1) Mongoose has maintained a mildly nervous energy from the beginning; defensive reaction to the RVS vote, some curious comments, and now some AtE.
2) The mongoose wagon surely has scum somewhere on it; at least one, maybe two. (

But I think the third scum is not on the wagon.

) Could be Katsuki or Budja.
3) TBM has avoided the mongoose wagon; why? If mongoose is town, he could be the missing third, and if he's scum, TBM could be his

Scum reads:

mongoose

and TBM; then either Kats or Budja. If mongoose is scum, then I think the third would be Budja based on TBM's little blurb about Katsuki; if he flips town, then I think TBM, Kats, and Budja would be likely scum based on their interactions.

I will connect the dots better later, but it's 4:30 a.m. and the logic is slipping away...

You seem to imply that mongoose isn't (the third) scum (because he's obviously not on his own wagon), but then you list him as your first scumread.

Pom is confused with you.

Oh, I meant I think he is first scum; I was filling in the other two blanks.

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR FOURTH VOTECOUNT was behind a BLOOD STAIN!!!

Katsuki (1): , mongoose
mongoose (7): jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas, Katsuki, camn, Ellibereth, vezokpiraka
MehPlusRawr (1): TheButtonmen
camn (1): Domino
vezokpiraka (1): MehPlusRawr,

With 12 players it's 7 and... a... lynch.
NIGHT CHOICE DEADLINE Sunday September 22th @9:00 EST

moongose was a town HEAVY SLEEPER!

HIS BEDROOM IS NOW LOCKED.

Note: The mafia player that installs the bomb cannot hide in another player's room that night.

[DrippingGoofball]

Far_Cry replaces Budja.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mikeburnfire is replacing Domino (who hasn't picked up his prod), so night will have to last a wee bit longer.

[DrippingGoofball]

Riiiiiiiiiing! buzz!!!!! Every little thing you do is magic!!!! Just dance, toot toot tootootoot!

Radio and alarm clocks are waking every body up and an acrid smell of explosives permeates the dorm. Why, vezokpiraka's room has been blown to bits! Luckily, no one was injured, or worse, dead! Vezokpiraka's room should be repaired for tonight.

Carry on!

[tanstalas]

Well - interesting. Vezok confirmed town AMIRITE?

[tanstalas]

Vote: Katsuki

Her top 3 consisted of myself, camn and Vezok - as far as I am concerned Vezok is probably town - getting a town vibe from camn and I know I am town.

[camn]

Well - interesting. Vezok confirmed town AMIRITE?

WRONG!

If I were scum I would totally blow up a scum room, knowing full well that my scumbuddy was hiding somewhere else.

ps. Im lucky.. I considered hiding in Vezo's room.

[Pomegranate]

Well - interesting. Vezok confirmed town AMIRITE?

WRONG!

If I were scum I would totally blow up a scum room, knowing full well that my scumbuddy was hiding somewhere else.

Eh, I don't see the point in speculating about this, as it's basically WIFOM. I'd say that it's a nulltell as far as vezo is concerned.

[tanstalas]

Well - interesting. Vezok confirmed town AMIRITE?

WRONG!

If I were scum I would totally blow up a scum room, knowing full well that my scumbuddy was hiding somewhere else.

ps. Im lucky.. I considered hiding in Vezo's room.

Yeah - I slept in someones room who I thought was scummy... good point you bring up on that though

[camn]

I understand that Pom.
But clearing him is definitely a no-no, no?

However, Veso is on my hitlist for his hammer alone. I was hoping putting someone at L-1 would shake something out.... Maybe it did?

VOTE : vesokpiraka

For the obv reason- WTF on the quickhammer?

[tanstalas]

@mod - if a scum was also a light sleeper when do they get notified if someone hides in their room? As soon as they hide in their room or what?

Just wondering because I submitted my action right after we went into twilight. Wondering if it might be safer for me to say just PM you a minute before the deadline so that if I hide in a light sleeper mafia room they can't get an organized blow up? IE:this night choice deadline was at 9pm on the 22nd, if I sent you my action at 8:59pm even if I went into a LS Mafia room by the time you sent them the notification it would be after 9pm so they wouldn't be able to send in a guaranteed kill?

[mikeburnfire]

Hai guys, this game looked cool, and I know DG is a good mod. You probably won't get much content from me until the weekend, kinda busy.

[TheButtonmen]

UNENDING RAGE @ VEZO!

Vote: Vezo

[Pomegranate]

I understand that Pom.
But clearing him is definitely a no-no, no?

However, Veso is on my hitlist for his hammer alone. I was hoping putting someone at L-1 would shake something out.... Maybe it did?

VOTE : vesokpiraka

For the obv reason- WTF on the quickhammer?

I agree with all of this.

VOTE: vezokpiraka.

[Katsuki]

Vote: Vezo

Pressure vote. If vezo is scum though, tans probably is. His first statement on vezo (obv town one) was terrible. Same with you voting me for my suspects.

On another note, like camn, I also thought of hiding in vezo's room Then I said DGB's, but she didn't let me.

[DrippingGoofball]

@mod - if a scum was also a light sleeper when do they get notified if someone hides in their room? As soon as they hide in their room or what?

They would find out in the morning, if they decided to stay in their room.