Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR FIFTH VOTECOUNT was hiding with its head in the sand!

vezokpiraka (4): camn, The Buttonmen, Pomegranate, Katsuki
Katsuki (1): tanstalas

With 11 players it's 6 to lynch!

[Far_Cry]

I've read through the thread, but don't have time to do in-depth analysis. I'll get to it tomorrow, hopefully.

And SHIT!!. Why do you hav to play with Mike again? Out last experience together was not really a great one.....

[tanstalas]

Out last experience together was not really a great one.....

Did it involve leather gear and whips?

[Far_Cry]

Out last experience together was not really a great one.....

Did it involve leather gear and whips?

LOL. But in a word, no.

[Katsuki]

With

12 players

it's 7 to lynch, still!

That's something new.

***mod note: oops, 11 players!***

[camn]

I've read through the thread, but don't have time to do in-depth analysis. I'll get to it tomorrow, hopefully.

And SHIT!!. Why do you hav to play with Mike again? Out last experience together was not really a great one.....

Unless it is ongoing... spill it.
What is your impression of burnfire?
Relevant history? context?

[Pomegranate]

V/LA until Saturday night- holidays & stuff.

[Ellibereth]

Oh hai guys.
I'm here.
Busy right now.
Yeah.

[Far_Cry]

I've read through the thread, but don't have time to do in-depth analysis. I'll get to it tomorrow, hopefully.

And SHIT!!. Why do you hav to play with Mike again? Out last experience together was not really a great one.....

Unless it is ongoing... spill it.
What is your impression of burnfire?
Relevant history? context?

It was about a year ago (before I took a year's break from mafia) so I don't remember all the details. And I don't remember which game it was. But no matter; I had won the game (as scum) by being a total dumbass. MBF was the only smart player that game, but somehow my partner and I managed to win. Not much importance, it just brought back bad memories of the time when I REALLY sucked.

Analysis coming soon.

[Far_Cry]

OK, here is my list:

Domino (a.k.a. MBF)- nothing, since there are only 3 useless posts.

MehPlusRawr- started out with accusations against vezo and budja (now me) and then started talking random bs about policy lynching, etc. Please, post a little a more about your thought, because right now, you are a little passed neutral and are heading for scummy territory.

Pomegranate - your posts don't have much substance. I understand that you are busy, but please try to say more, and put more in your posts. You jumped on the vezo wagon just by saying "I agree with all of this." Please put your give some more input on vezo. Why is he scummy? Don't jump on wagons just because it's popular. That's a way to lose the game. Right now, I'm going to have to put you as neutral. We'll see where you go after you post more.

tanstalas- funny guy, but humor doesn't win games. I think these short posts and comedy are his playstyle, but I'm getting mixed vibes on it. I do understand that you do some strange things so people won't get a meta on you. But you voted 5 different people, and seem not so suspicious of vezo, even though vezo is the most suspicious player right now. Not exactly sure what to say about you.

TheButtonmen- similar situation to tanstalas, except you decided to vote on vezo. Please put more substance in your posts. Currently, I do not have a complete read on you, but you sound town now, due to the fact that you haven't done anything inherently suspicious.

Ellibereth- again, not a lot of substance in your posts. You sound town because again, like TheButtonmen, you haven't done anything that sound scummy yet. And your indecisiveness D1 sounds like a townie unsure of who to vote. But the same goes to you as went to the two above: post more.

Katsuki- your posts also lack real info. However, unlike the above three, you deliberately (and say so yourself) don't add much to the discussion, when there is PLENTY to talk about. Smells fishy.

jenniwren- yes! finally somebody who actually said something! Your arguements against mongoose and TBM were reasonable, and you have made some good contributions. Yet, what troubles me is that, with all of your input and accusations, you only voted for once (and that was a random vote.) Plus, the way you write off vezo by saying:

Vezo is being Vezo. /bang head on hard surface

... doesn't quite cut it. Vezo is right now the scummiest player (more on that later) and you right him just because it's "vezo being vezo." That doesn't cut it for me.

camn- another person that contributes well. You attempt scum hunting (comes off pro-town to me). She is also right for voting vezo. However, I'm not quite understanding your statement that buttonman is scum. Are you being funny or serious? If you are being serious, why is he scummy to you? First you go on to say this about Mongoose:

Man. Moongoose is fail town.

Then you say this:

Oh.
WTF.
Obvscum in front of me and I don't vote him?

unvote
vote mongoose

... hammering mongoose, when you just said not to long ago that he is town. You may argue that there were 3 days between those posts, but you didn't say shit during those 3 days. Plus, the fact that you HAMMERED him, before everybody could sufficiently conclude something about him, his very scummy.

SO, as a result, I

vote: vezo

, and

FoS: jenni

Defend yourself fast, guys (especially vezo) or you are going to die.

Overall, I'm disappointed at the lack of activity and substance in most of your guys's posts. Please post more, and about SOMETHING.

[Ellibereth]

Vezo claim.

[TheButtonmen]

@camn:

Thoughts on Katsuki?

[MehPlusRawr]

What? I apparently missed that huge, blatant contradiction Vezo made. Standing by to hammer after a claim.

[Far_Cry]

Vezo claim.

I don't understand why you want Vezo to claim. With no power roles, he can only claim VT. And anybody can claim VT. Unless you want him to claim whether he is a light sleeper of heavy sleeper. But that still doesn't do any good, since scum can be light of heavy sleepers.

vezo

: Talk. Now. Prove to me (actually to everybody) that you are town. Or else your going to get hammered.

[MehPlusRawr]

He's at L-1, Far...

[Ellibereth]

Why would you tell him that.
He could have been stupid and claimed a PR.

[MehPlusRawr]

If he's a light sleeper then we might get information before stringing him up.

[camn]

I think Katsu is a filthy lurker, but town..
He has been skating by, posting absolutely nothing. I would normally think he was scum just for that. in fact, I did... but then, somehow, he has time to correct DGB's votecount. This is lurkeriffic.. but totally a townslip. If he was scum, it would totally be in the scum's best interest to keep that confusion alive.. hoping for a mis-hammer at 6 votes, no?

I guess I could WIFOM my way around that.. but given he has NOTHING ELSE OF SUBSTANCE... that is the only thing I can read on.

PS: Far_Cry (whose room I hid in last night, incidentally)
I will confess. I don't, and never did, think Button was obvscum. He COULD be scum, but his only scumminess is not seeing how obvtown I am. (which is actually a pretty big scumtell, btw) But I am undecided on him.
I wrote that with no justification whatsoever to try and get some mudslinging going.
And for general OMGUS-iness.
This game is mega-lethargic for some reason. . . and I will do whatever it takes to spur discussion.. because that is what we need to win.

[TheButtonmen]

@Camn:

Why the pivot onto the mongoose wagon? What posting of his made you think he was probable scum and / or a profitable wagon?

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR SIXTH VOTECOUNT keeps getting hotter and hotter, or is it?

vezokpiraka (5): camn, The Buttonmen, Pomegranate, Katsuki, Far_Cry
Katsuki (1): tanstalas

With 11 players it's 6 to lynch...

[Far_Cry]

I think Katsu is a filthy lurker, but town..
He has been skating by, posting absolutely nothing. I would normally think he was scum just for that. in fact, I did... but then, somehow, he has time to correct DGB's votecount. This is lurkeriffic.. but totally a townslip. If he was scum, it would totally be in the scum's best interest to keep that confusion alive.. hoping for a mis-hammer at 6 votes, no?

I guess I could WIFOM my way around that.. but given he has NOTHING ELSE OF SUBSTANCE... that is the only thing I can read on.

PS: Far_Cry (whose room I hid in last night, incidentally)
I will confess. I don't, and never did, think Button was obvscum. He COULD be scum, but his only scumminess is not seeing how obvtown I am. (which is actually a pretty big scumtell, btw) But I am undecided on him.
I wrote that with no justification whatsoever to try and get some mudslinging going.
And for general OMGUS-iness.
This game is mega-lethargic for some reason. . . and I will do whatever it takes to spur discussion.. because that is what we need to win.

Agreed on Kat, and agreed that we need to make more discussion. However, what exactly makes you obvtown? And was there any justification in hiding in my/Budja's room? Did you find Budja suspicious?

[Far_Cry]

Oops, forgot to add the first part of that post.

Why would you tell him that.
He could have been stupid and claimed a PR.

Cmon, don't be cheap. He already know that there are no power roles:

(1) There are NO POWER ROLES. Roles have NO FLAVOR.

Ah. I think I am going insane.

So you are right. I thought it said TWO power roles, not NO.

He wouldn't claim PR.

He's at L-1, Far...

Yes, I understand that. And....?

[MehPlusRawr]

And people claim at L-1 or forever hold their results.

[jenniwren]

First: I've not had time to post anything since D2 started, but the first thing I have to say is pretty much what everyone else did, which is, WTF Vezo?

The second is, wow, Far_Cry, did you miss these posts?

Vezok, why'd you join this game.
serious question.

^Don't even bother reading elli's question?

Vezok is obviously failing to read

even

a 3 page game...

I'm not willing to vote Vezo yet for following his (often mind-numbing but) regular playstyle.

Vezo has an established playstyle. Basically, he always plays like this. Check out his meta.

However, established or not, it's no reason to let bad hammers slide. I would vote Vezo now, but he's at L-1, so holding off until he claims.

Also @ FC: You're right, I didn't change my random vote because mongoose OMGUS voted me, got really defensive about being voted for, and then acted scummy enough that five other people voted for him. I never saw a reason to unvote him because he was definitely the most scummy person of all, at least until Vezo's hammer.

@camn: You should check out the Castlevania game that just ended before giving "Count" Katsu a town pass, lol. (Though I think you're probably right about the town-slip...Katsu and her team just handed the town their bums on toast in that game, so I have to say it.)
@Tans: Why so quick to try to clear Vezo as town? Also, this post is pretty freaking OMGUS.

Vote: Katsuki

Her top 3 consisted of myself, camn and Vezok - as far as I am concerned Vezok is probably town - getting a town vibe from camn and I know I am town.

Before the hammer and mongoose's town flip, I thought the scum team was mongoose, TBM, and either Kats or Budja. After the hammer/flip, I am thinking Vezo, and not sure who else. Tans's leap to clear Vezo as obv-town after the hammer isn't good, nor is his current vote on Katsu. If camn is right, and Kats made a town-slip when she pointed out the mistake in the VC, then Tans' entire game is questionable as he has been accusing Kats throughout most of it.

[Far_Cry]

And people claim at L-1 or forever hold their results.

But like I said before, there's nothing to claim. There are no PRs.