Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[tanstalas]

I wanted to see if anyone else would jump on Katsuki's BW on me, also the fact that she tried to play off MPR being guilty for the quickhammer. So if Katsuki does flip scum it isn't looking very good for MPR tomorrow.

Now I think scum may be

Katsuki
Pom
MPR

(I know there is only 2 left, but I'm almost positive the last 2 are in those 3)

[Pomegranate]

I just know that I didn't hide in vezok's room, and tried to hide in DGB's room

but got kicked into some unknown room

Lynch all liars

I tried to hide in DGF's room last night and was told (Like I surmised yesterday) that the mod wouldn't randomly kick you into someone elses room rather they would make you stay in your own room or tell you to hide somewhere else.

I was told to hide somewhere else.

If you do not believe me, try to hide in DGF's room tonight and see what she tells you

Vote: Katsuki

Also ISO Katsuki and look at her posts, tell me you do not get the feeling that she is scum just trying to fly under the radar.

K, thanks

VOTE: Katsuki. What do you have to say about this?

[Katsuki]

NEITHER
I AM A CUPCAKE
TRUE STORY.

@Tans: OMGUS MORE?

P-EDIT: OFC YOU CAN'T HIDE IN THE MOD'S ROOM.

THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS CLAIMING WHO'S ROOM I HID IN N1.

[Katsuki]

Also this wagon built a little too quickly.

Tans is def scum at this point.

[Pomegranate]

It's only three votes.

[Katsuki]

Considering it was 3 consecutive posts.

I got those 3 votes as I was going home from class. So, yeah, I am surprised.

Honestly, tans has done nothing, and accuses me of doing nothing? That is really funny.

[tanstalas]

Considering it was 3 consecutive posts.

I got those 3 votes as I was going home from class. So, yeah, I am surprised.

Honestly, tans has done nothing, and accuses me of doing nothing? That is really funny.

Get defensive more and post in MOAR CAPS! - really makes you look obv-town /sarcasm

I am silly and can't believe I forgot.

Unvote, Vote tans

Vezo isn't gonna be back to explain his actions.

If MPR did in fact hammer, he'll be facing the same questions vezo was.

And then in your very next post after camn jumped on MPR right off the gate:

I dunno about MPR, he seems to like quick-lynching in every game I'm in with him...

Flip-flop much?

You have been banging the "Tans is scum" drum all game with no reasoning behind it - when asked for reasoning you basically say "he just is go look"

Looking forward to your next post where you will be going over my ISO with a fine tooth comb looking for anything

And I like how you avoided the question about lying - why WOULD you lie. why not just say mod told me I could not hide in her room so I hid somewhere else? You think by saying "Hid somewhere else" is going to tell us whose room you hid in?

And if you want to compare me with Zwet, I think I shall now compare you with Fate for posting an entire message ALL IN CAPS

[Far_Cry]

Lets calm down guys, and take a clearer look at the situation:

MBF - It's looking like your town, because I agree that it's quite unlikely they would target one of their own rooms again. However, I can't completely clear you yet, because you still haven't really post much....

TBM - Town vibes from you. You haven't done anything scummy, and, as of late, seem to get more involved in hunting scum. I'm liking that.

Elli - Your short, choppy posts are somewhat hard to get a read on, but you're looking town to me. I don't feel all too scared of your humor. And BTW, PLEASE STOP USING CAPS!!!!

Pomegrante - You don't post to often (which I understand because you are busy.) You seem very much town in my eyes for your attempts at hunting scum. Plus, I don't see anything too scummy about you.

Camn - Townish read on you. Last day, in your argument with kats, I'd take your side, since I didn't quite see all of the accusations as having a lot of substance. Don't see much that would make me suspicious of you.

MPR - I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves when accusing you. While I am in agreement that your hammer needs to be looked at, you did wait a reasonable amount of time before hammering. What does concern me however, is that you did not wait at all for vezo (which maybe excuseable, since he's flaked from the site.) Neutral read on you.

jenni - Not heard so much talk about you. Obviously, you kind of "turning away" from vezo, and saying that he's town is somewhat suspicious. However, I can base this as my only reason for thinking you are scum. I would like to hear more from you. In fact, I would really like to see a town list from you. Neutral read at the moment.

tanstalas - I'd like to just yell SCUM!!! at you, but you have done a good job of defending yourself against kats. While I'm definitely not writing you off, and your guys's arguments maybe to just seperate you two guys, I can't say too much yet. Neutral read, maybe a slight bit scummy.

kats - OK, you start off by voting tans off the bat. When asked why you did this, you reply:

Because he is scum. Simple as.

I'm sorry, but what the fuck?! This is D3, so you know. This is not a joke. Your bullshit ideas can only screw with town.

Yes.

Look at his comments at the beginning of D2. That, and combine it with his D1 play.

So you come back with this, which is more reasonable. But I would like you to describe tans's play thus far, and tell me why it's scummy.

Right now, I'm really concerned about Tans and Kats. I am more suspicious of kats, however. I probably should vote kats right now, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and will let you reply to my question (of tans's play.) So for now, just

FoS: Katsuki

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[Katsuki]

ISO tans.

D1: Does what zwet did in another game we were in. Knowing tans better than most of you, I KNOW it was one of those actions that are done to draw a lot of attention to oneself, so that others will not pay attention to you/vote you.

Example from an entertaining source: If you're in a classroom, and someone's chair went skyrocketing upwards hence smashing said occupant into the ceiling, everyone would look. However, once done repetitively, it becomes a "oh, X is flying again". Dunno how to explain that.

Aside from acting like zwet/gandalf, all he did was call me scum.

D2: Calls vezo town, me scum.

D3: First MPR, then jumps to me after I keep pushing for his lynch.


Really, I am already at the point where all I want to say is "iso tans". Because he is so obvscum that it hurts.

Regarding my comments to start the say, I said he was scum, simple as, because I've said so much prior to begin with, that there was really not much I could add.

[Katsuki]

Also, far_cry, how has tans done a good job of defending himself against me when, he hasn't explained anything that I've said this whole game?

[tanstalas]

I can play the ISO card too.

Also going through it seems Katsuki is buddying up to Elli A LOT.

ISO0 - Makes a joke about Elli
ISO1 - single emoticon post
ISO2 - Says that Elli likes to call her Katsu
ISO3 - Says Katsu means boom
ISO4 - Joke vote on Elli
ISO5 - Scolds Pom for mispelling her name
ISO6 - Asks Vezok to answer Ellie's question
ISO7 - EBWOP for last ISO
ISO8 - Votes Vezo
ISO9 - Claims we have scum in referencing my last post saying to lets BW Katsuki
ISO10 - Says I'm not Zwet - says to lynch Vezok then me
ISO11 - Says I'm not town.. again... still no reasoning given
ISO12 - See ISO11 - I'm serious - same as ISO11
ISO13 - Getting slightly defensive to camn because Katsu didn't give a top 3 pick
ISO14 - Claims she "forgot" to give her top 3, proceeds to do so - says I am not playing with a town meta.. oh finally a reason.. kind of? Care to elaborate?
ISO15 - Talks about board posting times
ISO16 - Votes Mongoose.. wait, what? Why? Nowhere in any previous post have you mentioned Mongoose at all, nor in this post - bandwagoning much?
ISO17 - Says basically "The reason I voted mongoose is because he made up stuff to jump on my wagon" - I can't make this shit up people (Oh and mongoose is confirmed town now)
ISO18 - Nothing new to add (No seriously, that is what the ENTIRE post said)
ISO19 - Gets defensive against mongoose. Says that she is too lazy to analyze the thread
ISO20 - Votes Vezo
ISO21 - Corrects Mods player count
ISO22 - Says mod kicked her into an "unknown" room - also another interesting tidbit - she says she has YET to read page 9 - now, her last post ISO21 WAS ON PAGE 9 - I'll let you make your own descision on that
ISO23 - Finally makes her first post of the game that actually contributes something
ISO24 - Talks about the idea of co-ordinating the hiding at night
ISO25 - Quotes me asking do I need to comment on this statement (The statement she quoted was me on last day saying I do not think mod will randomly assign you a room)
ISO26 - Says she was able to setup internet
ISO27 - Talks about night actions again
ISO28 - Asks camn to answer her questions
ISO29 - Quotes her ISO27 (I guess that was the question? I was confused as well since it didn't end with a ?)
ISO30 - Vezo flaked? Then lets lynch Tans
ISO31 - Comments that she didn't know Mike was in the game
ISO32 - Starts to do her "Fate" impersonation for doing entire posts in CAPS - in this post she gets called out to find a game that Elli played in where he was town, and Katsuki refuses to do this and instead says maybe I'll find it when you start posting
ISO33 - Posts to Elli saying Vezok is not the only thing to talk about
ISO34 - Tells Elli that I am scum
ISO35 - Argues with camn about post 237 - and says that camn did not answer her question in response - think this must mean Katsuki's ISO27?!? - Again I was confused as well since it was not phrased as a question.
ISO36 - Votes me again, says if MPR hammered he will be facing questions
ISO37 - Says that MPR's meta is quick hammering - contract your VERY LAST POST?
ISO38 - Says I am scum - no reason given
ISO39 - Says she hid in camn's room - hey camn - if you are a light sleeper can you confirm this?
ISO40 - Katsuki says to look at my entire ISO and that is why I am scum
ISO41 - Speaking to Elli again telling him to vote me
ISO42 - Accuses me of OMGUS
ISO43 - This wagon built too quickly
ISO44 - WAAAAAAAAAAAHMULANCE
ISO45 - Half hearted attempt at an ISO on me
ISO46 - Askes Far_cry a question

[Katsuki]

I DID NOT SAY MPR META IS QUICK HAMMERING

EVER CONSIDER THAT, WHILE THIS GAME WAS IN NIGHT, THAT MPR MAYBE HAS DONE OTHER STUFF THAT MAKES ME QUESTION WHETHER HIS HAMMER WAS INDEED SCUM HAMMER?

Also, I love your comments on like the first bunch of posts. And the misrep on stuff like my reaction to camn asking for suspects/my afk in middle of typing post (your one about me talking about board posting), some of the elli stuff, and the mongoose vote.

FURTHERMORE, AT LEAST MY ISO HAS STUFF, UNLIKE YOURS. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ANALYZING, WHICH I CAN SAY IS LIGHTYEARS MORE THAN YOU HAVE DONE.
WHICH GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, YOU SAY THAT I'VE DONE NOTHING AND AM SKATING BY AS SCUM, YET COMPARE MY D2, TO YOURS.

[camn]

Katsu- Although I did think you were town, I now have two very pressing lines of inquiry to take up with you. I expect your attention on both, until I am satisfied. If you deflect or ignore, I will see you lynched. Believe it. Here goes:

a)

Erm, I may post later to clarify as to what I mean, but yeah. I do not like any discussion pertaining to "night choices" and increasing scum chances of hitting.

how talking about night actions would be in any way helpful in "organizing" the town.

For more WIFOM, I too hid in camn's room last night :*

What happened to move you from NOT DISCUSSING NIGHT CHOICES to blatantly claiming your night choices. It is ok to answer 'you convinced my with your incredible logic, camn!!'

b)

If MPR did in fact hammer, he'll be facing the same questions vezo was.

Oh hey, vezok was scum
...

Vote: Tans

What happened to MPR needing to face questions? Please answer and await my followup questions.

preview edit: stop with the caps. for real. Explain your MPR reasoning in full. now.

[Katsuki]

a) Camn, you have YET to tell me how claiming night actions help in organizing town, DESPITE me chasing you for it throughout the entirety of D2 (or starting from when you asked it).
As to whether I am truthful about where I hid, I will keep to myself. Hence, WIFOM.

b) Already explained.

[Katsuki]

Oh, and tans, you know VERY well that caps is part of my meta. Where as, acting like zwet, is not part of yours.

[Ellibereth]

As to whether I am truthful about where I hid, I will keep to myself. Hence, WIFOM.

Pointless WIFOM is pointless.
It's actually more harmful to the town.
Think why.

[Katsuki]

I do not know why.
To me, it is not the town blowing up the rooms.

Hence, spouting random stuff and keeping scum guessing where I may hide imo is the best option.

Maybe if camn had explained the question I asked her like a week ago, I may not be saying what I am saying now.

OH, AND DON'T GIVE ME A "LOOK AT MY POST BEFORE", BECAUSE IT SAYS NOTHING TO ME. - TO CAMN

[tanstalas]

a) Camn, you have YET to tell me how claiming night actions help in organizing town, DESPITE me chasing you for it throughout the entirety of D2 (or starting from when you asked it).
As to whether I am truthful about where I hid, I will keep to myself. Hence, WIFOM.

It could catch a scum in a lie - if they said they hid somewhere a light sleeper was the light sleeper could say "Uhh - you wern't in X's room"

b) Already explained.

Already explained? With this?

EVER CONSIDER THAT, WHILE THIS GAME WAS IN NIGHT, THAT MPR MAYBE HAS DONE OTHER STUFF THAT MAKES ME QUESTION WHETHER HIS HAMMER WAS INDEED SCUM HAMMER?

I am assuming you are talking about another game? In which well, you shouldn't even be mentioning in this game if it is an ongoing game? And if it is an ongoing game, you

know

we can't ask you about it so really you answered the question by not answering it...

[camn]

UNVOTE
VOTE KASTUKI

[Katsuki]

WELL, IT'D BE NICE IF SOMEONE EXPLAINED THAT TO ME TO BEGIN WITH NOW WOULDN'T IT.

@TANS: I AM SAYING THAT, WITH MPR, TO ME, HIS HAMMERING WAS NOT QUITE AS STRONG OF A SCUMTELL AS, SAY, YOUR PLAY.


ALSO, IF YOU GUYS ARE VOTING ME BASED ON THE FACT THAT I AM A LIAR (EG. DGB ROOM HIDING, WHICH, HONESTLY, IS RIDIC), THEN SOMEONE LYNCH TANS, THEN CAMN FOR ME.

This is all. I will look at this game tomorrow to see if anythings happened.

[Ellibereth]

I do not know why.
To me, it is not the town blowing up the rooms.

Hence, spouting random stuff and keeping scum guessing where I may hide imo is the best option.

It's not.

Unvote

I have to think...
Stop the WIFOM room hiding things Katsu. It hurts the town and I don't want to say why. If all your previous statements were lies say so nao.

[Katsuki]

I have tried to hide in DGB's room both night, only to be rejected.

Everything else, probably.

[Far_Cry]

ISO tans.

D1: Does what zwet did in another game we were in. Knowing tans better than most of you, I KNOW it was one of those actions that are done to draw a lot of attention to oneself, so that others will not pay attention to you/vote you.

Example from an entertaining source: If you're in a classroom, and someone's chair went skyrocketing upwards hence smashing said occupant into the ceiling, everyone would look. However, once done repetitively, it becomes a "oh, X is flying again". Dunno how to explain that.

Aside from acting like zwet/gandalf, all he did was call me scum.

D2: Calls vezo town, me scum.

D3: First MPR, then jumps to me after I keep pushing for his lynch.


Really, I am already at the point where all I want to say is "iso tans". Because he is so obvscum that it hurts.

Regarding my comments to start the say, I said he was scum, simple as, because I've said so much prior to begin with, that there was really not much I could add.

Ok, this is getting better. But, despite all of this, why is he obvscum?

This is what makes me mad. Everyone runs around yelling at each that their either obvscum or obvtown. I don't understand how the hell you people know who's so obviously town and who's so obviously scum.

I can play the ISO card too.

Also going through it seems Katsuki is buddying up to Elli A LOT.

ISO0 - Makes a joke about Elli
ISO1 - single emoticon post
ISO2 - Says that Elli likes to call her Katsu
ISO3 - Says Katsu means boom
ISO4 - Joke vote on Elli
ISO5 - Scolds Pom for mispelling her name
ISO6 - Asks Vezok to answer Ellie's question
ISO7 - EBWOP for last ISO
ISO8 - Votes Vezo
ISO9 - Claims we have scum in referencing my last post saying to lets BW Katsuki
ISO10 - Says I'm not Zwet - says to lynch Vezok then me
ISO11 - Says I'm not town.. again... still no reasoning given
ISO12 - See ISO11 - I'm serious - same as ISO11
ISO13 - Getting slightly defensive to camn because Katsu didn't give a top 3 pick
ISO14 - Claims she "forgot" to give her top 3, proceeds to do so - says I am not playing with a town meta.. oh finally a reason.. kind of? Care to elaborate?
ISO15 - Talks about board posting times
ISO16 - Votes Mongoose.. wait, what? Why? Nowhere in any previous post have you mentioned Mongoose at all, nor in this post - bandwagoning much?
ISO17 - Says basically "The reason I voted mongoose is because he made up stuff to jump on my wagon" - I can't make this shit up people (Oh and mongoose is confirmed town now)
ISO18 - Nothing new to add (No seriously, that is what the ENTIRE post said)
ISO19 - Gets defensive against mongoose. Says that she is too lazy to analyze the thread
ISO20 - Votes Vezo
ISO21 - Corrects Mods player count
ISO22 - Says mod kicked her into an "unknown" room - also another interesting tidbit - she says she has YET to read page 9 - now, her last post ISO21 WAS ON PAGE 9 - I'll let you make your own descision on that
ISO23 - Finally makes her first post of the game that actually contributes something
ISO24 - Talks about the idea of co-ordinating the hiding at night
ISO25 - Quotes me asking do I need to comment on this statement (The statement she quoted was me on last day saying I do not think mod will randomly assign you a room)
ISO26 - Says she was able to setup internet
ISO27 - Talks about night actions again
ISO28 - Asks camn to answer her questions
ISO29 - Quotes her ISO27 (I guess that was the question? I was confused as well since it didn't end with a ?)
ISO30 - Vezo flaked? Then lets lynch Tans
ISO31 - Comments that she didn't know Mike was in the game
ISO32 - Starts to do her "Fate" impersonation for doing entire posts in CAPS - in this post she gets called out to find a game that Elli played in where he was town, and Katsuki refuses to do this and instead says maybe I'll find it when you start posting
ISO33 - Posts to Elli saying Vezok is not the only thing to talk about
ISO34 - Tells Elli that I am scum
ISO35 - Argues with camn about post 237 - and says that camn did not answer her question in response - think this must mean Katsuki's ISO27?!? - Again I was confused as well since it was not phrased as a question.
ISO36 - Votes me again, says if MPR hammered he will be facing questions
ISO37 - Says that MPR's meta is quick hammering - contract your VERY LAST POST?
ISO38 - Says I am scum - no reason given
ISO39 - Says she hid in camn's room - hey camn - if you are a light sleeper can you confirm this?
ISO40 - Katsuki says to look at my entire ISO and that is why I am scum
ISO41 - Speaking to Elli again telling him to vote me
ISO42 - Accuses me of OMGUS
ISO43 - This wagon built too quickly
ISO44 - WAAAAAAAAAAAHMULANCE
ISO45 - Half hearted attempt at an ISO on me
ISO46 - Askes Far_cry a question

This is somehwhat convincing. I can see how you linked Kats to Elli. And Kats hasn't since responded to this. And then comes this:

I do not know why.
To me, it is not the town blowing up the rooms.

Hence, spouting random stuff and keeping scum guessing where I may hide imo is the best option.

It's not.

Unvote

I have to think...
Stop the WIFOM room hiding things Katsu. It hurts the town and I don't want to say why. If all your previous statements were lies say so nao.

Just a second. Just three hours ago you voted for her and said this:

Kats are you a liar.
Y/N.
Serious.

Dissonance? You just said not to long ago's she's a liar. Why the fuck did you vote for her then, than unvote?

One last thing. While I was reading back through pages, this came to my attention.

fuck that.. MPR is probably just as frustrated as I am with the people in this game...

Why do you say this? I was frustrated with people before due to their lack of activity. However, it has picked up as of late. Would you still say this, tans?

[tanstalas]

I have tried to hide in DGB's room both night, only to be rejected.

Everything else, probably.

And lying is pro-town because...?

[Ellibereth]

I think she's a liar.
I also think she's town.
For now.