Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[Ellibereth]

I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

[Ellibereth]

HI JENNI
I SEE YOU.

[jenniwren]

I am reading now. I've been completely absorbed by another game this afternoon; sorry :s.

[Ellibereth]

Katsu, Drippere style transfer amirite?
If you don't get what I mean nvm.

[tanstalas]

I fail to see your reasoning behind if scum knows where you hid they can guess with any certainty where I you are going to hide the next night, care to explain that logic to me, as I am trying to wrap my head around why you would think that, unless you had a pattern of hiding in peoples rooms in order of their name alphabetically or something.

Let's try this again

@KATSUKI

- The above was directed at you - please answer and stop trying to throw suspicion on other people instead

[camn]

Elli- i think Katsu has plenty of scum motivation to play this way. But let's assume town for a sec- do you want her in endgame with you?

Wouldn't mind that much, have had worse...
But really, I see no scum motivation to go for the easily checkable lie.

I agree with THAT.. but what about the evasiveness? What about the unexplained changes in position when they become unpopular? And what about disregarding straight questions?
Scum totally go with the flow in re: their suspicions and opinions.. .. and it is a scum COUP when you can ignore questions and call it playstyle.

And imagine if it came down to one scum in [Katsu and . . someone else]. Kats is setting things up so he can just write off all his previous suspicions and accusations as gambits and WIFOM. That will be a fun choice in lylo.

Now, the fact that he was all over me about discussing nightchoices, and then started off the day discussing nightchoices.. I can let that slide. Most people see the wisdom in my plans eventually...
But unless he can answer my questions about MBR and the veso wagon, he is either scum or a liability. And I play games to win. That means eliminating liabilities.

[camn]

I love the camn flipflopping. First me obvtown, now me scum, to somewhere in between.

Note how Katsu throws this

political

slander out, despite the fact that Elli is openly changing his mind.
It is only useful to the SCUM for him to use sarcastic non-logical arguments against me, and ignore the same actions taken by his supporters. It muddies the arguments, and leaves a trail of nonsense to pick up later in the game.

If is is bad for me to change positions, then it is equally bad for Elli, no?
Yet another inconsistency. Katsuki cannot be relied on for logical thinking when it comes to pro-town goals.
Why?

Him being scum is certainly one explanation.
And NO explanation makes him an asset to this town.

[Far_Cry]

I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

Holy shit. This is not about me or you. This about the whole town. You being evasive is completely hurting your image (and is hurting all of town.)

FoS Ellibereth

. I'm going to give you one last shot to answer my questions. If you don't, you're in trouble.

[Katsuki]

Elli went from middle to scum.

You went from one end of the spectrum to the other.

@Tans: I believe that over multiple nights, scum can probably guess where someone might hide given their habits.

I wouldn't know, but then, answer me this, how would we claim then help?

You said not claiming doesnt help, but I still do not see how everyone claiming helps.

Also, I wonder if I've become a drip? :O

[tanstalas]

Anyone else getting the feeling Katsuki and Elli went from scum buddying to bussing?

[tanstalas]

Elli went from middle to scum.

You went from one end of the spectrum to the other.

@Tans: I believe that over multiple nights, scum can probably guess where someone might hide given their habits.

I wouldn't know, but then, answer me this, how would we claim then help?

You said not claiming doesnt help, but I still do not see how everyone claiming helps.

Also, I wonder if I've become a drip? :O

Oh and BTW - I'm not avoiding your question - I already gave one reason why saying where we were could benefit the town - if you are really not paying attention to this game even if you are town - which at this point I doubt - having a townie that isn't paying attention to the game isn't beneficial.

[Ellibereth]

I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

Holy shit. This is not about me or you. This about the whole town. You being evasive is completely hurting your image (and is hurting all of town.)

FoS Ellibereth

. I'm going to give you one last shot to answer my questions. If you don't, you're in trouble.

Goddamnit you don't get it at all.

I don't trust the majority of the town. And I think me revealing certain things will help scum much more than town.

So No.

[Ellibereth]

Katsu, could you or could you not decide where you were going post-DGB hide choice sent in and being declined.

[Ellibereth]

Camn...I'm not a big fan of the liability chop usually, but ESPECIALLY here, where the town can potentially LOSE with one unlucky night I'm even more against it...

[Far_Cry]

Anyone else getting the feeling Katsuki and Elli went from scum buddying to bussing?

Perhaps this is very much true.

I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

Holy shit. This is not about me or you. This about the whole town. You being evasive is completely hurting your image (and is hurting all of town.)

FoS Ellibereth

. I'm going to give you one last shot to answer my questions. If you don't, you're in trouble.

Goddamnit you don't get it at all.

I don't trust the majority of the town. And I think me revealing certain things will help scum much more than town.

So No.

OK, OK. But I have no reason to trust you while you are under so much fire. I don't know if you're just blowing smoke and trying to not talk. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt at the moment, but be prepared to speak sometime.

[tanstalas]

Anyone else getting the feeling Katsuki and Elli went from scum buddying to bussing?

Perhaps this is very much true.

And Elli just posted 3 times and ignored that statement.

Noted.

[Ellibereth]

My impression right now is that the active group is all town and the scumz are in the group that's not here at all.

[tanstalas]

Please define active group - by my definition of "Active group" and "right now" I count 5 people who are not in "the active group"

Mikeburnfire
jenniwren
Pon
Thebuttonmen
MPR

So which are you referring to?

[Ellibereth]

Yeah those guyz.
Scum's in there.

[tanstalas]

OK - maybe not Pom - she has had 3 posts today/yesterday (depending what day you are in right now)

[camn]

Camn...I'm not a big fan of the liability chop usually, but ESPECIALLY here, where the town can potentially LOSE with one unlucky night I'm even more against it...

Then get some answers out of him! If he is such a townie, he should be able to field easy questions re: reasoning.

[Ellibereth]

Put Pom in there anyway, I don't remember seeing anything I liked from her.

Camn...I'm not a big fan of the liability chop usually, but ESPECIALLY here, where the town can potentially LOSE with one unlucky night I'm even more against it...

Then get some answers out of him! If he is such a townie, he should be able to field easy questions re: reasoning.

I'M TRYING.

[tanstalas]

Well, out of 10 people you take a swath of 5.. so out of 50% of the remaining people in the game you think there might be scum..

Well there are only 2 left, care to narrow it down a bit?

Now some people think lurking/active lurking is a scumtell, some think it is a null tell - I guess I know which camp you are in?

[camn]

I am a lynch-all-lurkers gal.

[Katsuki]

Katsu, could you or could you not decide where you were going post-DGB hide choice sent in and being declined.

I generally sent 2 requests in to DGB at the same time. She usually ignored my first one.