Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[jenniwren]

Okay...you addressed the D2 comment but not that one.

And, I don't think that the mafia have to be in the same room to do anything...but I see where you were going with it now. But I'm not sure that would be useful game info, and it would give the scum the name of a light sleeper.

I think everyone is going to hate us when they get back to this thread.

Prev. edit: Yeah, that doesn't come across the way you think it does, at least not to me.

[tanstalas]

Well for example, Vezok obviously went to another person's room right?

So say he went to Katsuki's room because she is his scum buddy and he knows they aren't blowing up Katsuki's room.

If a town LS also went to Katsuki's room he may have seen other people there (which in this case it looks bad for me because I was in Katsuki's room)

Be interesting to see the scumchat when this is done and see if they all did go to the same room or what.. and also the cursing because they missed 2 shots thus far

[jenniwren]

Okay. You've debunked my theory. About you. At any rate I wanted to get it sorted out one way or the other before I did anything else.
Neeeeext:

Unvote

Vote Katsuki

[camn]

Good, jenni. Good.

Also, tans.. I see no reason why scum would all go into the same room. Or lie about where they went. So I am unsure if we can catch anyone that way.

More Katsu votes?

[Pomegranate]

Ahhh... I need to catch up. I glanced over the last two pages, and I'll read all the really long posts and stuff soon.

[camn]

You can ignore the bulk of the Jenni/tans exchange.
Definitely read Katsuki at the beginning of the day... I would enjoy your input.

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR NINTH VOTECOUNT was scrunched up in the cookie jar!

Katsuki (4): tanstalas, Pomegranate, camn, jenniwren
tanstalas (1): Katsuki
Far_Cry (1): The Buttonmen

With 10 players, it's 6 to lynch...

[Katsuki]

Tans is obv scum in my eyes
Jenn I am not sure. Would say either tans or jenn is scum.
I really am still not sure about camn. Head says town, gut says scum.
Elli is prob town.
Far_cry, maybe town.
Pom needs to post more
TBM, kind of same as pom.


I am busy today.

[Pomegranate]

You can ignore the bulk of the Jenni/tans exchange.
Definitely read Katsuki at the beginning of the day... I would enjoy your input.

Okay, I'm still happy with my Kastuki vote; this is what I've got on him:

-He tunnels Tans, and in post 308, he twice lists the that a reason he finds Tans scummy is because Tans found him scummy. OMGUS much? How is that a reason?
-He WIFOMs everyone about his night action for no apparent or necessary reason, saying that it benefits town to confuse scum (302, 313, 316).
-He seems to get overly worried, and a bit defensive even about the first votes put on him at the very beginning of the day.

[tanstalas]

You can ignore the bulk of the Jenni/tans exchange.
Definitely read Katsuki at the beginning of the day... I would enjoy your input.

Okay, I'm still happy with my Kastuki vote; this is what I've got on him:

-He tunnels Tans, and in post 308, he twice lists the that a reason he finds Tans scummy is because Tans found him scummy. OMGUS much? How is that a reason?
-He WIFOMs everyone about his night action for no apparent or necessary reason, saying that it benefits town to confuse scum (302, 313, 316).
-He seems to get overly worried, and a bit defensive even about the first votes put on him at the very beginning of the day.

It's been pointed out that Katsuki is a "she" you saying he is confusing me

[Pomegranate]

Oh. My bad. Sorry Katsuki.

[tanstalas]

Almost as many girls in this game as guys especially if you count the mod

[camn]

Oh. My bad. Sorry Katsuki.

Me too. I forgot!

[camn]

OK.. lets get down to biz, while Katsu decides if she wants to start playing right, or die.

Elli.. lets put mongoose at L-1 and see what falls out, k?

Day 1, partial final vc:

Katsuki (1): ,

mongoose

mongoose

(7): jenniwren, Budja(Far_Cry), tanstalas, Katsuki,

camn

, Ellibereth,

vezokpiraka

vezokpiraka

(1): MehPlusRawr

Hmm. Not much there. shook vezo out, though. Odds of Elli being scum? VERY SMALL based on this votecount alone.
MPRs vote is interesting. Bussing or instinct? Need to check:
Wow. MPR's iso is pretty thin. He should start posting more, too

Partial day 2 vc:

vezokpiraka (6):

camn

, The Buttonmen, Pomegranate, Katsuki, Far_Cry, MehPlusRawr
Katsuki (1): tanstalas

Even less there. Katsu was willing to punish Vezo for quickhammering, but didn't even bother to question MPR. On the bus early? Not willing to ride it twice? Maybe. I have some thoughts here.
Could the Veso wagon be totally towndriven? Maybe. Just maybe.


more later..

[mikeburnfire]

Hey, I haven't read anything from today so far, but here are a few footnotes from last night that I wrote:

1) If katsuki is scum, then tanstalas is scum based on vote 2 off katsuki onto mongoose
2) MPR = maybe scum. Voted Vezok when 2 other bigger wagons and stays on til end, but gives good reasons. vezok gets angry, point in MPR favor
3) tantalas = scum based on 188, insinuates vezok is clean after being attacked.
4) MPR looks really bad after 259.
5) Take the above notes with a grain of salt because I was pretty tired when I was writing them. They might not make sense to me when I go thru again.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I remember reading through the thread, and then katsuki did that thing, and I got suspicious of her. But then I watched the reactions unfold and started to think she was town. Regardless, Tantalas looks really scummy to me, so I will leave my vote on him

vote: Tantalas

I am very busy today and tomorrow. I might be able to get a proper post in on Friday, but if that fails, it will have to be Sunday. Whatever the case, I promise that Sunday night I will make a big ol' wall o' text and really crack into this game. With two deaths, including one scum, I'm sure there's evidence to be found. At any rate, I am always checking on my games, even if I don't have time or ability to post, so if you want me to answer something directly, lemme know.

[TheButtonmen]

Tant wagon bad, FarCry wagon good.

Reasons include FarCry's opening post, FarCrys summary and how he gives his reads, his commentary on Jenn, his ISO 4, his hilariously bad lurker lynch idea and more!

Explinations and more tomorrorw when I have enough time.

Also making this game mountainous is starting to seem ilke an idea worth discussing, in particular I feel like after the next scum lynch people should stop hiding and prevent any multikills from happening.

[Pomegranate]

V/LA until Saturday night.

[camn]

Also making this game mountainous is starting to seem ilke an idea worth discussing, in particular I feel like after the next scum lynch people should stop hiding and prevent any multikills from happening.

^^townslip

[mikeburnfire]

I disagree. Heavy sleepers should always hide elsewhere. Light sleepers should stay put, unless they've already claimed to be light sleepers.

[mikeburnfire]

In addition, if we make it to a LyLo phase, we should claim where we hid during the various nights, THEN claim if we are heavy or light. We can catch lying scum best if we do it this way, I believe.

[camn]

Interesting thought.

Buuuuuut.. it has a giant logical hole.
One you could fit a truck through.

I like the ideas, though.. keep them coming!

[Ellibereth]

[quote="camn]
Hmm. Not much there. shook vezo out, though. Odds of Elli being scum? VERY SMALL based on this votecount alone.[/quote]
While I like the conclusion I don't really get why. >.>

[TheButtonmen]

Hey Eli, if you ignore my question I'm going to be forced to assume you're a light sleeper and that Kats was over last night and I'd so hate to make an ass out of you and me.

[camn]

Hmm. Not much there. shook vezo out, though. Odds of Elli being scum? VERY SMALL based on this votecount alone.

While I like the conclusion I don't really get why. >.>

Because veso-scum dropped the hammer.
I think it is unlikely that veso-scum would follow elli-scum on a 2-scum end-wagon, uncoached. And how COULD he be coached, considering camn-town dragged elli onto the wagon?
THUS.. Elli-town.

[Far_Cry]

ATTN TOWN.

JENN AND FAR-CRY ARE SCUM.

THAT IS ALL.

VOTE: FAR-CRY.

I'm surprised this got such little attention. I will await your reasoning for this. BTW, why did you vote for me instead of jenn?

Tant wagon bad, FarCry wagon good.

Reasons include FarCry's opening post, FarCrys summary and how he gives his reads, his commentary on Jenn, his ISO 4, his hilariously bad lurker lynch idea and more!

Explinations and more tomorrorw when I have enough time.

Also making this game mountainous is starting to seem ilke an idea worth discussing, in particular I feel like after the next scum lynch people should stop hiding and prevent any multikills from happening.

Again, I will await your explanations on this. And so you know, I never said I want to lynch the lurkers; I said I wanted to attack them. Especially considering all of the uncertainty, lurking is BAD for town.

Right now, I'm not sure what to think of the tans/jenn debate. I didn't read through it thoroughly, but what I'm getting from it is that tans won, jenni failed (which she admitted to herself.) I'm not sure what to think at the moment. Tans got a little more town to me, and jenni got a little more scummy to me. I'm not even sure what to think at this point. Tans's play has been somewhat contradictory at this point, going from humorous to all of a sudden serious when put under pressure. Jenni's case against tans failed and she went off running towards kats. Not sure what to think of it, but I'll I tell you right now, I really don't like it. But I do need to time to think of it.