Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[ReaperCharlie]

What signs, ooba?

And yes, we've all agreed that killing a recruiter is better than killing a recruited.
Srsly tho, is that really your best and/or only counter to my attack on you?

If so, that's pathetically weak.

Deflection. Answer the question - Do you think I am a cult recruiter or not?

I think it's pretty dam# possible. There are things that point to it.

Conversely, I don't see any reasons you are NOT a cult recruiter.



...


Where is my ooba wagon? Stop splitting the vote on Faraday. I told you fools Furcolow would flip town, and he did. Lynch ooba now, please.

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. Welcome, Robocopter!

You're a welcome sight, especially when contrasted against the person you're replacing.

[Erg0]

Some thoughts on a few more people who've caught my eye:

animorpherv1 seems to have pretty much disappeared today after a relatively active day 1. He's been silent in the other game we're both in, so this probably isn't meaningful.

Friend has a few iffy moments, but seems ok overall.

Gandalf's iso reads like Faraday's first page times three. That's not a good thing.

Lord Gurgi was ok on day one, but joined the Faraday wagon and

then

asked for an explanation?

Poro arguing with others about playstyles might be a town tell. Pending result of an ongoing game.

TheLonging was on my list day 1, and I don't see where he ever explained his early M=W push. That weird little about-face from singer doesn't help matters.

It's a choice between singer and Chrono right now. I'd like to hear an explanation from singer about his ooba vote, which doesn't seem all that well-reasoned to me. Chrono is more outright scummy, though.

Aim: Chronopie

[Andrius]

Animorpherv1 flaked from the site.

[Faraday]

Most of the questions asked by Me=weird seem to have pretty obvious answers and are being asked for the sake of being asked.

So you'd rather stop wagons on people you think are town instead of analyzing the wagons, and possibly finding scum?

This is clearly NOT what I said. Could you misunderstand/misrepresent my position any more? I had mentioned that I thought zwet was scum, that's why I thought it was a good kill. Ugh I'm not even going through the rest of that, it's nonsensical.

What you said was this: "I don't want wagons on people I think are town, so of course I'm going to be quick to try and put them out. I don't see a problem with that at all.". Why not wait a bit and look for scummy wagon-hopping or anything? And if the questions are so obvious, why won't you answer them?

Because they're stupid and I don't feel like responding to your bad rhetoric. And as for why, well it's pretty obvious as once a wagon gains momentum (like serious momentum) it's pretty hard to stop, so if you can nip it in the bud early all the better.

[Mr. Flay]

Flameaxe replaces animorpherv1, effective immediately.

Fifth Situation Report of Day Two

[6]

Faraday (Porochaz, Lord Gurgi, Yosarian2, Chronopie, inHimshallibe, Me=Weird)

[4]

ooba (ReaperCharlie,

animorpherv1

Flameaxe, singersigner, xvart)

[3]

Chronopie (Faraday, gandalf5166, Erg0)

[1]

Me=Weird (Friend)

Holstered: Andrius, ooba, Robocopter87

With seventeen alive, it will take nine drawn guns to execute someone. Day Two will end no later than 5:00 AM UTC on Tuesday, October 5th.

[Faraday]

Singer I'm asking what you think ooba's lying about, do you think he happened to guess the actual role? I don't understand why you're voting him.

Yos' respone re: chronopie doesn't do a lot to change my mind, which is pretty grand.

[Flameaxe]

Waz up world! I'll go ahead and

Holster

while I start my read. I shall be back shortly.

[ReaperCharlie]

Bah. This ooba wagon is looking hopeless.

Aim: Faraday

But when ooba flips cult recruiter you're all gonna have to apologize to me

[xvart]

I can't believe the Faraday wagon, built on nothing but hopes and dreams, is winning compared to the guy whose defense is basically a logical argument that suggests he is not the recruiter but says nothing of him being recruited and how we should not consider him because he isn't the recruiter.

xvart.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, screw that. I'm not giving in.

Aim: ooba

All you Faraday voters: Tell me the reason you're voting Faraday above ooba. And it better be darn good.

[ooba]

I can't believe the Faraday wagon, built on nothing but hopes and dreams, is winning compared to the guy whose defense is basically a logical argument that suggests he is not the recruiter but says nothing of him being recruited and how we should not consider him because he isn't the recruiter.

So unlike RC, you agree with the part where I am not a cult recruiter but still think its a good idea to lynch me because I might be recruited?

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@Andrius
RC: "I knocked them out and searched their room, came up as innocent. I then heard a noise coming and left the room."

ooba: "I did get to sucker-punch someone in the face last night. Had fun knocking their ass out.
And again, that "noise" made me duck back down the hall before I could put any more punishment on him."

Are you sure its the same "noise" (i.e similar sources) on both nights?
You're leaving out some key flavor element or lying here .. Because ..
- If its a roleblocker making the "noise" to distract you and chase you away, you shouldn't have got a result on N0 too ..

RC, I have a question for you - Lets say you lynch me - I'll flip town. What explanation can you give for the above then?

[Andrius]

ooba

I think this "noise" is some generic little mod shenanigan explaining why I don't just investigate and masonize people, see?
So I doubt the noise is anything significant, unless someone is perpetually tracking me/ watching my targets...

[ooba]

ooba

I think this "noise" is some generic little mod shenanigan explaining why I don't just investigate and masonize people, see?

How do you explain the innocent on RC then?

[Andrius]

ooba

I think this "noise" is some generic little mod shenanigan explaining why I don't just investigate and masonize people, see?

How do you explain the innocent on RC then?

A "noise" prevented me from sticking around RC's room, IIRC.

Also, I plan on doing a little rereading; not all 60 some-odd pages, just perhaps D2, and a zwet ISO.

[xvart]

I can't believe the Faraday wagon, built on nothing but hopes and dreams, is winning compared to the guy whose defense is basically a logical argument that suggests he is not the recruiter but says nothing of him being recruited and how we should not consider him because he isn't the recruiter.

So unlike RC, you agree with the part where I am not a cult recruiter but still think its a good idea to lynch me because I might be recruited?

I don't really care if you are recruiter or recruited; the fact that your defense is not "I am not a member of a cult" is so scummy because you thought you were perceived as not being a recruiter so you were trying to get people to focus on the more important recruiter while never addressing the accusation of being a cult member.

I think this "noise" is some generic little mod shenanigan explaining why I don't just investigate and masonize people, see?
So I doubt the noise is anything significant, unless someone is perpetually tracking me/ watching my targets...

Masonize people?

xvart.

[Andrius]

@ xvart, Re: Masonize people: Well, I'd assume that, if I were a Cop who pulled an innocent, and I could convince people I was innocent, it'd be the right thing to do and all. I am NOT a Masonizer. I was just saying that the noise came and hindered me from using my newfound knowledde (N0). So he made it seem like I'd otherwise be doing something... Meh.

[ooba]

ooba

I think this "noise" is some generic little mod shenanigan explaining why I don't just investigate and masonize people, see?
So I doubt the noise is anything significant, unless someone is perpetually tracking me/ watching my targets...

So you're saying the "noise" is just something that makes you run away..

- You might be a role which cannot investigate power roles which use their abilities that day .. People go out of their houses .. You come back to beat out info out of them but it's too late in the night to get a proper investigation ..
- You were not roleblocked N0 but were roleblocked yesterday .. Using the word "noise" again was just Flay's way of keeping it ambiguous so that you cannot say for sure that you were roleblocked ..

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@Xvart:

I don't really care if you are recruiter or recruited; the fact that your defense is not "I am not a member of a cult" is so scummy because you thought you were perceived as not being a recruiter so you were trying to get people to focus on the more important recruiter while never addressing the accusation of being a cult member.

I do not like making a logically incorrect statement. My defense is "I cannot be a cult recruiter" (except in the cases of recruiting a loose cannon N0 or getting a loose cannon fakeclaim). The statement "I cannot be part of a cult" is wrong because I could have been recruited either night and still got my shot off. (<spec>I do not think roles lose their abilities when recruited - otherwise the bodyguard serves no purpose*</spec> - *unless you're a fan of the cult might also kill theory)

If it makes you feel better, I am not a member of any cult. There isn't any "cult member" specific accusation for me to counter.

[Chronopie]

It's a choice between singer and Chrono right now. I'd like to hear an explanation from singer about his ooba vote, which doesn't seem all that well-reasoned to me. Chrono is more outright scummy, though.

Aim: Chronopie

So just "Outright Scummy"?

No reasons, nothing to refute, just hoping on the wagon?

I can say, with 100% honesty, that I am not a recruiter, nor have I been recruited. After all, I've made my role clear enough that I

almost

qualify for a share in Andy's bakery

[Andrius]

@ ooba: I was probably RB'd. End of story.

@ Chrono: Just because I'm good (understatement) at crumbing doesn't mean I can pick up other people's. :S

[Chronopie]

I'm not saying you can't pick up crumbs, just that I've been dropping crumbs like mad.

[Andrius]

So I had a thought; if I'm NK'd tonight, (barring any protection), there's probably only one scum-group. Because if there are 2, they'd possibly keep me around to hunt for each other? Especially if they can recruit me?

Just a thought I had while watching Chrono's avatar change colors.

[Chronopie]

My avatar has mesmerised you into...

lol wut?

The flavour is

two

brothers.

Each

wanting to take over the family business.

There were

2

kills last night, and enforcers apparently have just one bullet each...

[Andrius]

My avatar has mesmerised you into...

lol wut?

The flavour is

two

brothers.

Each

wanting to take over the family business.

There were

2

kills last night, and enforcers apparently have just one bullet each...

ooba killed zwet.
1 scum NK.
So its plausible.

Yeah, but the bros can work together. See THE GODFATHER.

(Minus the fratricide against Fredo...)

[gandalf5166]

I don't think either scumteam has an NK.