I'll come to a conclusion at this point.
The scum team is VP Baltar and Vi.
1st scum found. Why VP Baltar is scum?
1> My ISO on him reveals persistent insinuations and soft accusation on CKD without actually taking a firm stance.
2> His inconsistent behavior in regards to his evidenceful but wishy washy stance on CKD when claims are muddy vs his irrational yet firm stance on me and Sotty when CKD is revealed to be doctor.
3> CKD post #80 suggests Sotty to pick the first pop corn claim but VP Baltar jumped in on post #81 and asked for my claim first --> Possible attempt to jump on the best claim position. Think about it, the mere fact that he claims last would earn him town cred in your eyes whether he counterclaimed or not so DON'T consider it a town-tell.
2nd scum Vi found via connection with VP Baltar
1> Soft backing VP's possible claim plan
Vi wrote:VP Baltar wrote:Vi and nopoint, let's hear your votes on who should claim first.
npau, I guess.
2> Constantly backing VP with WIFOM and soft defense ( not resolute defense ).
Vi wrote:
Then ckd asked me why I brought it up before VP Baltar claimed, and over the weekend I realized there was another side to it.
VPB-scum would have had a very easy time counterclaiming ckd for the win (although he likely didn't need my input to determine how likely people would have been to believe him). Alternatively, VPB-scum could NOT counterclaim and attack me along ckd's lines
. He didn't do either. This leads me to believe he's more likely Town.
WIFOM
Vi wrote:
*The reason is that
he was "busy with life". Not "the game has only gone on so long"
. It's a semantic difference but it sounds like he was avoiding the thread.
*He immediately and reactively attacks you. It's rhetoric, and not the good kind. Plus I'm not sure how one can "latch onto" one's own argument, but whatever.
sottyrulez did something similar with "This is weak.", although FWIW they at least acknowledged the time constraint. In addition,
sottyrulez 110 wrote:See a lurker lynch also takes relatively little effort as well.
This was addressed to you. But if I'm your top Town read and the other two are "lurkers", etc.
Basically, they've overreacted heavily to the main "threat" in the game.
That's what stands out most to me. It also eases my decision to trust you >.>
If you are so inclined on believing in WIFOM wouldn't you agree that if me and Sotty were partners, we would go for you instead of VP, whom CKD believes?
Vi wrote:
With that said, I regret to inform myself that I didn't think this through.
Vi 117 wrote:And if you're going to be lynched anyway, why not expose the Doctor along the way?
This would have been ckd's scum motivation for claiming Doctor. There really WASN'T any chance of a turnabout in the case of ckd-Town/VPB-scum both claiming Doctor, because even claiming Doctor was scummy for ckd. I would have thrown a vote down for him.
So ultimately I have to agree that the move makes no sense for VPB-scum,
even if it means agreeing with the piteous one.
WIFOM reasoning, though he addressed this already.
Vi wrote:
And from your perspective it shouldn't really matter since you believe me to be town anyhow.
More likely than not. But then if you think I'm more likely than not Town, it shouldn't matter to you for the same reason.
Of course, if we're both Town this is a stupid thing to disagree over.
Vi wrote:@VP Baltar:
That's actually a good answer.
Also, I approve of this abuse of the
smiley.
gives no reasoning as to why it is a good answer.
Vi wrote:VP Baltar 152 wrote:Alright, so my conclusion is that ckd is not willing to vote npau at this point. I don't think I'm willing to vote Vi at this point. The answer seems rather obvious then who needs to die. I think I'm ready to vote if you are ckd.
Likewise.
At this point if VP Baltar is scum my jaw will drop.
Note that Vi's reasonings are because he thinks VP's town, Npau and Sotty has to be scum. That is a typical scum reasoning to avoid scrunity. In addition, though he posted a lot of soft defense implying VP is town, his only real reasoning for it is the WIFOM that VP would have counterclaimed if he was scum.
No reasoning for why that post indicate VP-town.
Note: They are very dismissive of my godfather post in order not to commit.
VP Baltar wrote:ckd wrote: the fact that nopoint thought there was a GF in the game, makes me think he is not the lynch today.
meh. I don't really find that all that persuasive, but I see where you're coming from.
Vi wrote:
I'm not sure about whether npau's Godfather post is indicative of alignment. As scum I wouldn't deliberately be ignorant of an Open setup, but I wouldn't accidentally be ignorant of an Open setup as Town either, so I don't really know what to do with it.
CKD, it's up to you now to win the game for us. I encourage you to reread in a more objective manner and you will find that VP is likely scum and that Vi has an undeniable connection with him. I'm ONLY willing to vote either VP or Vi today.