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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:31 pm

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mikeburnfire wrote:In addition, if we make it to a LyLo phase, we should claim where we hid during the various nights, THEN claim if we are heavy or light. We can catch lying scum best if we do it this way, I believe.
Not understanding the idea here. Both town are scum have light and heavy sleepers. As a result, I don't know how we could catch someone lying about something.

There is, however, perhaps a point to this idea, which you didn't mention. I think if it comes to this situation, we should probably say which night we stayed in every night. This perhaps will help us figure out who's scum. It's difficult to explain, but if we can figure out that someone (who is perhaps suspicious) keeps on gettting "missed" or so to say, we can perhaps deduce who's getting targeted, who's town trying to avoid these bombs, and who's scum trying to do the same.

It's going to be difficult however, to pull this off and figure out who's who with certainty. I think we should leave this issue if or until we reach a lylo phase. For now, it's a little hard to see if this strategy will work.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:42 pm

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mikeburnfire wrote:In addition, if we make it to a LyLo phase, we should claim where we hid during the various nights, THEN claim if we are heavy or light. We can catch lying scum best if we do it this way, I believe.
Not understanding the idea here. Both town are scum have light and heavy sleepers. As a result, I don't know how we could catch someone lying about something.

There is, however, perhaps a point to this idea, which you didn't mention. I think if it comes to this situation, we should probably say which night we stayed in every night. This perhaps will help us figure out who's scum. It's difficult to explain, but if we can figure out that someone (who is perhaps suspicious) keeps on gettting "missed" or so to say, we can perhaps deduce who's getting targeted, who's town trying to avoid these bombs, and who's scum trying to do the same.

It's going to be difficult however, to pull this off and figure out who's who with certainty. I think we should leave this issue if or until we reach a lylo phase. For now,
it's a little hard to see if this strategy will work.
If you are referring to far_cry's strategy - it would not work - I don't want to say why it wouldn't because it
might
- if the scum are really dumb, however if you put any thought whatsoever into that plan you will see why it would not work. I am sure Camn and I are thinking the exact same thing.

And your plan wouldn't work either if we are in LyLo how is being "missed" every night going to help us... if you are in LyLo - you were "missed" every night as well, so wouldn't your plan indicate that everyone in LyLo could be scum?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:58 pm

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Button
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Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:12 pm

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Ellibereth wrote:Button
/ignore
Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid
. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:16 pm

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Ellibereth wrote:Button
/ignore
Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?
That's true. I guess that's what debunks the idea.

Anways, just screw my idea tans. I just overthought it and it makes no sense. We're going to have to come up with something different.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:22 pm

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Far_Cry wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:Button
/ignore
Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?
That's true. I guess that's what debunks the idea.

Anways, just screw my idea tans. I just overthought it and it makes no sense. We're going to have to come up with something different.
I have no problems with ideas being posted. I have been racking my brain trying to figure out if there is any way we can use LS to our advantage, however I cannot
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:23 pm

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There are a few.
But...I'm not going to say I won't say but let me think if I should say.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:27 pm

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tanstalas wrote:
Far_Cry wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:Button
/ignore
Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?
That's true. I guess that's what debunks the idea.

Anways, just screw my idea tans. I just overthought it and it makes no sense. We're going to have to come up with something different.
I have no problems with ideas being posted. I have been racking my brain trying to figure out if there is any way we can use LS to our advantage, however I cannot
I don't think we should try to use the setup to our advantage. Let's just let the game roll out.
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But...I'm not going to say I won't say but let me think if I should say.
This confused me; what are you trying to say?
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:31 pm

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It means Light Sleeper is useful but me saying why so can make it not useful.
Yeah, one of those things.
Or it might not and me saying it will still be useful.
I dunno yet.

And we def should try to use setup to adv if we can but prospects are looking GRIM for that.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:04 pm

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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:56 pm

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If you are voting MPR for posting in non-game threads without being here, may I point out something?
Katsuki wrote:Tans is obv scum in my eyes
Jenn I am not sure. Would say either tans or jenn is scum.
I really am still not sure about camn. Head says town, gut says scum.
Elli is prob town.
Far_cry, maybe town.
Pom needs to post more
TBM, kind of same as pom.


I am busy today.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts (She has made 29 posts since that "I am busy today post" and now - yet she hasn't been in this thread)

Granted MPR hasn't posted since Monday - But Katsuki hasn't posted since Tuesday - and she is the more likely suspect right now. I would think she would be in here defending herself, no?
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm

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Or maybe, someone forgot to post here because they were busy making catchup posts in other games as well. Plus, Tuesday was yesterday...

Weak case is weak case, Tans is still scum.

I will sleep soundly knowing that.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:06 pm

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Katsuki wrote:Or maybe, someone forgot to post here because they were busy making catchup posts in other games as well. Plus, Tuesday was yesterday...

Weak case is weak case, Tans is still scum.

I will sleep soundly knowing that.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:37 pm

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MikeBurnFire wrote:Hey, I haven't read anything from today so far, but here are a few footnotes from last night that I wrote:

1) If katsuki is scum, then tanstalas is scum based on vote 2 off katsuki onto mongoose
2) MPR = maybe scum. Voted Vezok when 2 other bigger wagons and stays on til end, but gives good reasons. vezok gets angry, point in MPR favor
3) tantalas = scum based on 188, insinuates vezok is clean after being attacked.
4) MPR looks really bad after 259.
5) Take the above notes with a grain of salt because I was pretty tired when I was writing them. They might not make sense to me when I go thru again.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I remember reading through the thread, and then katsuki did that thing, and I got suspicious of her. But then I watched the reactions unfold and started to think she was town. Regardless, Tantalas looks really scummy to me, so I will leave my vote on him

vote: Tantalas
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I didn't read through it thoroughly
, but what I'm getting from it is that tans won, jenni failed (which she admitted to herself.) I'm not sure what to think at the moment. Tans got a little more town to me, and jenni got a little more scummy to me. I'm not even sure what to think at this point. Tans's play has been somewhat contradictory at this point, going from humorous to all of a sudden serious when put under pressure. Jenni's case against tans failed and she went off running towards kats. Not sure what to think of it, but I'll I tell you right now, I really don't like it. But I do need to time to think of it.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:53 pm

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I am almost positive at this point that the remaining scum are Kat and Elli - if Katsuki does flip scum. (Sorry Camn, I do not agree with your reasoning for declaring Elli town)

Elli was on the BW that killed mongoose
Elli was not on the BW that lynched Vezok
(Granted you could say the above two points about me as well)

However if Katsuki does flip scum I am almost positive about Elli due to the interactions from Katsuki to Elli near the start of the game and then the (what appears to me) bussing as the game went on.

Also not liking how Elli is trying to start a BW on MPR now for MPR's lack of inactivity when the same could be said about Katsuki - really Katsuki should be posting - she is in the frying pan

Also Elli was quick to hop on the Katsuki wagon, but after she got up to 4 votes and a FoS from far_cry he quickly jumped off the wagon and when asked why he said he changed his mind and then when pushed further for reasoning as to why he changed his mind he said that he didn't intend to explain it but Camn should know what he means?

@Camn
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Also not liking the Elli thing "The scumzorz are in the lurkers!!!" Easy cop-out me thinks.

Elli is doing to much redirection and not really commenting on Katsuki lately - when I think a lot of stuff has gone down lately.

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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:04 am

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I think I do, but I disagree.
Katsuki wrote:Or maybe, someone forgot to post here because they were busy making catchup posts in other games as well. Plus, Tuesday was yesterday...

Weak case is weak case, Tans is still scum.

I will sleep soundly knowing that.
Your defense is that
YOU FORGOT ????

Maybe it is that, you sense we don't have the momentum to lynch you, and you are trying to lay low until the heat passes to someone else?
Maybe your partner is chainsawing tans, and you are hoping it will catch on?
But when it DIDN'T, you thought you would poke your head in and drop a little OMGUS-bomb?
And you know that anything out of your mouth will just make you more lynchable, because you are scum?

Maybe that is it. Maybe not that you 'FORGOT'.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:48 am

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No time right now.
But when I'm saying something to someone.
and it's CLEARLY not to meant to be to you.
I of course would have no reason to explain.
Otherwise I would have made it a universal transmission in the first place.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:58 am

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Katsuki has been very busy as of late.

Tans posted that "thursday" thing around 4am his time. I hadn't posted for a day. Point being?
For the record, I had forgotten about this though yesterday. Now kindly take off those tunnel goggles of yours camn.

I also do not post non-fluff while in class. Hence, the lack of posts here.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:41 pm

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It's not tunneling.
There is no way you 'forgot' about this game, that is all.
Of course, now it seems you are blaming 'class' for your evasiveness.
Which is it?
Did you forget?
Did class interfere?
Are you just trying stuff out till we let you off the hook?
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:07 pm

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Combination of both. Class + tiredness led to me forgetting about this.

I am not fond of doing this, but since tans is using this against me (28 posts since blah blah but none in here), I posted in a ton of my games regarding class --> lack of post.

Life is hectic and busy.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:34 pm

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Far_Cry wrote:Right now, I'm not sure what to think of the tans/jenn debate.
I didn't read through it thoroughly
, but what I'm getting from it is that tans won, jenni failed (which she admitted to herself.) I'm not sure what to think at the moment. Tans got a little more town to me, and jenni got a little more scummy to me. I'm not even sure what to think at this point. Tans's play has been somewhat contradictory at this point, going from humorous to all of a sudden serious when put under pressure. Jenni's case against tans failed and she went off running towards kats. Not sure what to think of it, but I'll I tell you right now, I really don't like it. But I do need to time to think of it.
You admitted you didn't really read the debate and yet you have the brass to use it as an argument against me? :roll: If you're going to make a case on someone, at least read what they write. I had a theory about Tans, and I pressed him about it, and he sufficiently addressed my questions, so I backed off and moved on. Also, Kats has been on my list since D1 (ISO 9), and can you seriously deny the concerns raised about her today?[/quote]

Call me lazy, but I didn't read every single detail of your guys's argument. But I read enough to know that you lost. Tans said himself to not reread through the whole argument and I didn't.

And concerning kats, I'm not denying anything that's going against her. It's just that, at this point, I don't know what to believe. Maybe kats and Elli are scum. Maybe tans is (with a partner I can't link at the moment.) And maybe you are (again, couldn't link her to a partner.) I need perhaps some time think.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:21 pm

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NO POSTING TONIGHT

ALCOHOL AND MAFIA DO NOT MIX.

ELLI IS PROB NOT SCUM.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:33 pm

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Katsuki wrote:NO POSTING TONIGHT

ALCOHOL AND MAFIA DO NOT MIX.

ELLI IS PROB NOT SCUM.
Drunk posting and trying to clear your scum partner?

Yes alcohol and posting do not mix - for proof check out my rant in SSB game lol

Surprised I wasn't modkilled :P

Anyhow - where the fuck are the other players?

@Mod/DGB
- Can you prod MPR?

And seriously - Pom, Mike and TBM - can you guys try to be more active?
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:42 pm

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YOU';RE A RETARD

AND ARE SCUM

STFU.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ALIVE ANYWAYSS.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:48 pm

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Katsuki wrote:YOU';RE A RETARD

AND ARE SCUM

STFU.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ALIVE ANYWAYSS.
Well, and now we are resorting to insults. Nice.

I know you love me Katsuki *kiss*

Just too bad you had to be scum and I had to tie a rope around your neck.

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