Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[Porochaz]

I unvoted, calm down. Say what you have to say "Oh Person X is scum, Person Y is town" "Why?" "Im not telling, nyeh, I can spend a lot more time complaining about how people are being unfair".

[Faraday]

That post obviously wasn't directed at you but for the people calling for a hammer. ^^ Notice you don't seem to believe I'm scum up there too.

[Porochaz]

I didnt say that. I said that your going to make a bit of a pointless last words post.

[Faraday]

But it seems to bother you? Which it shouldn't if I'm scum? I don't understand your objection to me wanting to get my reads out, really. Is it just you being a grumpy old man or something?

[Faraday]

I didnt say that. I said that your going to make a bit of a pointless last words post.

YOU*RE BTW and I'm giving reasons despite how much it pains me so whatever, it'll probably be ignored anyway.

I'll finish this off tomorrow(Monday actually) though, I'm leaving Uni now to go play fifa 11. I'd kindly ask anyone not to hammer untill then. Bi bi.

[Robocopter87]

Guys. I have role related information that an only help town.
I know one of the game mechanics the scum use.
I will claim in my next post if I don't see objections. (not a full claim just the mechanic)

*HEADDESK*
*HEADDESK*

Did he really just say that? Like really?
BTW, I'm ISOing Vezo and the first thing I do is remember what he said in the beginning of the game. Thus, the above.

10 pages in 12 hours?
AHHHHHHH.
It's not like i will read them.

aim Friend

I don't get the obvtown feeling from you.

Why do I always replace the idiots?

If oyu care to look I crumbed a PR that DOESN'T help scum at all.
I don't even think I can be cultized.

Where is he drawing these conclusions from? I must say I can be recruited. I think he just wanted to stay alive.

Also, I'm feeling the Faraday lynch. But I'll wait to see what he has to say. Though it really doesn't help him if hes like, "YOU ARE ALL STUPID LET ME POST....IN 3 DAYS."

[Yosarian2]

Yos2 - since you basically outlined the case on Faraday; can you take a couple of minutes to read M=W's ISO (hint: it won't take long) and do a simple comparison to Faraday? Outside of M=W's case on Friend out of the gate and his "case" on Faraday there is nothing. I would almost say there is less "ruffling of feathers" and more trying to go unnoticed, especially with lack of posting frequency and general content.

So if we are going the route of people trying not to get noticed I think Me=Weird should be considered; coupled with his recent scummy behavior he is today's lynch.

Vote: Me=Weird

xvart.

(nods) Me=Weird is defiantly someone we need to see more good scumhunting from. He really didn't do much, especally on day 1.

The main reason he hasn't gotten much pressure was the conditions in which Seraphim, the guy before him, replaced out on during day 1. The way that he replaced out so his personal dislike of Vez didn't effect the game was pretty odd, and several people said they couldn't see a scum doing it. I'm not completely convinced by that argument, but was defiantly a weird move (no pun intended).

I'd definatly like to hear some more posting from him, in any case. Other then his vote for faraday, I don't really know where me=weird stands on anything. And also, his last two posts bug me, where he says:

This game has succeeded in confusing me. I'm going to get some ISO's done tomorrow or so.

You should hammer. Hopefully D3 will be better. Anyway, not liking chrono to much after skimming his ISO, but there are bigger fish to fry.

No "waiting until tommorow" for iso's, me. We need to hear what you have to say about people now. If you have a case against chrono, or against anyone, say it. "Waiting until tomorrow" to make a case is just absurd in a cult game.

[Yosarian2]

So...I like how I've asked TWICE now for someone to explain the case on Faraday. Someone else asked somewhere along in there, but I can't remember who. And just NOW it's finally explained. I forgive you.

Sorry I didn't respond the first time; I had already made that case, and I figured that I didn't need to repeat myself.

I must say I can be recruited. I think he just wanted to stay alive.

for the record, he did later un-claim his "unrecruitable" claim, after I pointed out how hard it was to believe.

[Robocopter87]

He was confused about his role.

I guess if I really think I could see how he might come to that conclusion but really its pretty obv that you can be recruited.

Vezo acted really really bad.

[xvart]

(nods) Me=Weird is defiantly someone we need to see more good scumhunting from. He really didn't do much, especally on day 1.

The main reason he hasn't gotten much pressure was the conditions in which Seraphim, the guy before him, replaced out on during day 1. The way that he replaced out so his personal dislike of Vez didn't effect the game was pretty odd, and several people said they couldn't see a scum doing it. I'm not completely convinced by that argument, but was defiantly a weird move (no pun intended).

I am leaning more towards his personal distaste being true, but the resulting net effect of people thinking him suspicious was unforseen, and thus replaced out. Although, I don't see anyone replacing out if he/she were the recruiter; sort of a vanity thing and having a role that the entire game hinges on. I suppose this could be null considering the main game revolving roles are cult recruiters. Does anyone know Seraphim's feelings on cults and have public statements of said feelings?

xvart.

[Mr. Flay]

Seventh Situation Report of Day Two

[7]

Faraday (Yosarian2, Chronopie, inHimshallibe, Me=Weird, ReaperCharlie, ooba, Friend)

[3]

Chronopie (Faraday, gandalf5166, Erg0)

[1]

Friend (Lord Gurgi)

[1]

Me=Weird (xvart)

Holstered: Andrius, Flameaxe, Porochaz, Robocopter87, singersigner

With seventeen alive, it will take nine drawn guns to execute someone. Day Two will end no later than 5:00 AM UTC on Tuesday, October 5th.

[Andrius]

Does anyone know Seraphim's feelings on cults and have public statements of said feelings?

xvart.

He hates them. XD Well, the Cult of God defeated Seraphim's Red Spy Mafia in Comedy of Whims: Choose Your Side, so he's none to happy about that.

[Andrius]

I won't consider a hammer from me unless we're at deadline or until the replacements are caught up.

[singersigner]

V/LA through Sunday night.

[Me=Weird]

Not sure what I can do about just a bad feel from that post
I wasn't keeping a wagon open on chrono, or at least not intentionally. I was merely commenting on the results of my ISO.
Yos2, I'm not sure if you know I meant RL tomorrow, from that post, not game-tomorrow. And it didn't turn up to much.
xvart, if you don't think I'm a recruiter, why are you voting me? As yos pointed out, we really need to hit a recruiter today or D3.

[Friend]

I still feel okay about a Faraday lynch, but this:

xvart, if you don't think I'm a recruiter, why are you voting me? As yos pointed out, we really need to hit a recruiter today or D3.

Feels totally wrong. It's deflection and it's not a defense.

aim: Me=Weird

[Me=Weird]

Why? xvart said he didn't think seraphim as recruiter wouldn't have replaced out. I asked him why he was voting me then, since we really need to lynch a recruiter.

[Friend]

Because you're not defending against the accusation of scumminess, just the accusation of being a recruiter.

[Me=Weird]

Look up a couple lines.

[xvart]

xvart, if you don't think I'm a recruiter, why are you voting me? As yos pointed out, we really need to hit a recruiter today or D3.

I never definitively said you were not a recruiter. I said that if the Faraday case is solid because everyone thinks Faraday is a recruiter then you should also be considered in that sample. I did provide the caveat that said I don't see someone replacing out of one of the most important PRs in the game; however, I also said that since this significant role was a recruiter it was actually null (since recruiters and cults are bad news bears for a lot of people, which is why I asked about Seraphim's personal feelings on cults).

I also alluded to my thought process on recruiter Seraphim replacing out is that he had genuine dislike and displeasure of playing with vezok. I believe this to be true regardless of anything else that transpired. I also know Seraphim took some fairly significant (and probably unforeseen) heat for his policy lynch stance. Couple this with his potential dislike for being a recruiter and/or recognition that with him taking early heat he might not be able to recover with this attention. He then replaces out under the guise of not wanting to play with vezok. That may be moderately speculative, but considering his seesawing opinion on vezok (which I called him out on early D1) I think it adds credibility to the entire thought experiment.

A policy lynch is exponentially more important for a recruiter than in a typical scum vs town game because with a policy lynch the recruiters get another recruit out of it (something I did not think about until now).

So I'm not really sure how you can say I cleared you as a recruiter. I offered an explanation that might explain you not being a recruiter but immediately followed that with why that reasoning was a null value (in my opinion).

Why? xvart said he didn't think seraphim as recruiter wouldn't have replaced out. I asked him why he was voting me then, since we really need to lynch a recruiter.

Yes; if you truncate my quote that is exactly what I said.

xvart.

[Yosarian2]

The logic behind Friend's vote is pretty horrible.

That being said, I'm still waiting to hear some actual analysis from me=weird here. Do you have any opinions about anyone in the game here?

[ReaperCharlie]

I don't like how everyone assumes Yos is town.

Just sayin'

[Friend]

^^^ Agree

[ReaperCharlie]

^^^ Agree

[Friend]

Why is my logic "horrible," Yos?