Open 257 - SCIENCE! (game over, scum wins!)

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:24 am

unvote
vote far cry

wake up

Muffin · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:28 am

Far_Cry wrote:/confirm. Sorry for being late.

Not a problem. Have fun everyone! I'm going to try to do a votecount every 2 pages or so, but if you guys want one sooner just ask in thread.

vote CSL

lol

Far_Cry · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:38 am

Hey, if we don't like a co-mod or backup mod, we should be able to lynch him. Not saying that CSL has done anything yet, but it's and idea.

Thor665 · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:49 am

Greetings to everyone I've played with before (almost everyone by the looks of it)

Vote: drmyshottyizsik

Total policy lynch, and I admit and endorse it.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:50 am

not in a 7 person man

Thor665 · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:00 pm

No, it's a policy lynch in any size game. And if you're going to policy you really ought to lead out the gate with it.

Crazy · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:51 pm

Hey guys. It's been a couple months since I last played in a mafia game, so I haven't played with any of you - at least not that I can remember.

I've always thought that almost any policy lynch is stupid in principle; I think it's very unlikely for someone to be

that

detrimental to the town that you wouldn't at least try to get a read on them first, or try to see if anyone else comes across as scummy. As for Shotty, I'm not aware of his meta. Would someone (probably Thor) tell me why he should be policy lynched?

Thor665 · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:03 pm

My quick advice in that situation is to look at his wiki. (link at the bottom of his posts)

A quick summation is this;

He wins a fair deal as scum.
He loses a fair deal as town.
As scum he glides by because "scum couldn't be that bad"
As town he's a distracting anchor that is a detriment in the late game.

Today is the day before lylo - I want to lynch the VI.

Far_Cry · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:36 pm

@Thor: When you say this:

Thor665 wrote:As scum he glides by because "scum couldn't be that bad"

... you mean that he plays saying that scum wouldn't do something that's obvscum (to protect himself from doing something obvscum)?

Thor665 · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:56 pm

No, he just plays in a consistent anti-town/scummy way. Other town tend to WIFOM themselves into not lynching him, and if he's town then scum *love* him for being like that and never bother to kill him.

Trust me, I'd be willing to put down $5 that if we don't lynch shotty today that he's a top suspect tomorrow

Far_Cry · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:13 pm

Thor665 wrote:No, he just plays in a consistent anti-town/scummy way. Other town tend to WIFOM themselves into not lynching him, and if he's town then scum *love* him for being like that and never bother to kill him.

Trust me, I'd be willing to put down $5 that if we don't lynch shotty today that he's a top suspect tomorrow

Ok, I understand now. But you are only willing to put $5 for that?

Thor665 · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:18 pm

Tell you what, put down a vote on someone and I'll up it to $10.

edmund.angles · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:28 pm

unvote

- just a random vote.

@ Thor: Why couldn't you just wait for shotty to do something scummy before proposing the lynch?

@ everyone: If we have a VI then be extra careful about putting someone at L-1.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:05 pm

Dudes, I changed my sig, my VI play is gone

Thor665 · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:23 am

@edmund - why wait for rain to pack an umbrella? It's going to rain, it's just a question of when.

@shotty - and my beard is no longer awesomely manly. It's a slow and difficult process to change what you are, why should I believe a sig change signifies anything?

Far_Cry · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:50 am

Thor665 wrote:Tell you what, put down a vote on someone and I'll up it to $10.

Don't know who to do it on yet. I currently have one on crazy, but I'm not going to change that quite yet.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 am

@Thor- give me a chance today. I will not be a detriment to the town.

Thor665 · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:40 am

Yeah, but you still might be 33% likely scum, so it seems like a win/win from my perspective.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:44 am

let me play then deside on a policy or not

Crazy · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:06 am

Um, Thor, is there some specific game where Shotty did something really anti-town? Have you called for his policy lynch in the past?

Does anyone else besides Thor want a policy lynch? What I think, even if Shotty is completely useless (which he may or may not be), I've never seen a player that actually

hurts

the town so much that we'd be willing to waste one of our 3 lynches on him without even trying to get any sort of read on him.

@Shotty - Do you know what this is about? Do you play in so many games at once that your gameplay in each individual game suffers?

Thor665 · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:17 am

@Crazy - no , I don't think I've ever attempted to policy lynch shotty before. Does that matter, if so how? If not, why are you asking?

Secondary question - what do you think of his "let me play, I won't look like scum" spam posts in reply to me? Town response or scum response?

@edmund - if you believe in random votes enough to have done one initially why unvote now and not put out another?

gandalf5166 · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:26 am

I agree with the policy lynch, and I'll tell you why: We're going to lynch him. It's just a matter of when. Crazy, he has selfhammered as town in LyLo.

VOTE: DMSIS

Far_Cry · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:51 am

gandalf's vote puts dr at L-1, right? Unless Andrew's earlier vote doesn't count.

gandalf5166 wrote:Crazy, he has selfhammered as town in LyLo.
VOTE: DMSIS

LOL. Really? Could you please link me to that game?

andrew94 · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:47 am

firstly, does my vote on dr count?
if yes then hes at L1 now.

finally, edmund seems preticularly scummy

Mod edit: I didn't count it since technically the Day hadn't started.

Crazy · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:16 pm

Thor wrote:@Crazy - no , I don't think I've ever attempted to policy lynch shotty before. Does that matter, if so how? If not, why are you asking?

I wanted to know if your attitude in this game reflected your general opinion, or if you were unprecedently gunning for a quicklynch here. I already thought your policy lynch idea was bad; I just didn't know if it was scummy yet.

gandalf wrote:I agree with the policy lynch, and I'll tell you why: We're going to lynch him. It's just a matter of when. Crazy, he has selfhammered as town in LyLo. VOTE: DMSIS

Okay, that's really really bad, I'll admit that. Still, "OMG LYNCH HIM BEFORE HE CAN LYNCH HIMSELF!!" is very bad logic.

Do you guys want to lynch him as a punishment for his past behavior, or are you actually trying to win this game? I'll be happy to lynch him if he acts scummy, but you guys are playing stupidly.