Mini 1046 - Murder in the Desert (Game Over!)

[DemonHybrid]

Could WOMC's town outlook on Lowell serve to be scum knowing about his alignment and trying to gain townpoints by being the "told you so" the next day?

I'd prefer you look at the town incentive side of things this time. What makes my scumhunting effort worse than charter's?

I didn't accuse you of anything. In fact, going with probability, you probably were just keen on your read instead of scum knowing Lowell was town. You did not explain it very well, however.

Hear me out on boberz then. Tomorrow.

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What about boberz? I didn't know you had that much of an opinion on him.

[Slaxx]

We don't lynch on mylo. We wait for the doc to die. I am patient.

Vote: No lynch

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

We don't lynch on mylo. We wait for the doc to die. I am patient.

Vote: No lynch

This is 7 alive.

[Slaxx]

Woah. That is awesome O.o

unvote

[DemonHybrid]

We're two mislynches away from a lost game, assuming 1/4 of total is scum.

[DemonHybrid]

Well, if we find WOMC or Soc visiting Xine last night, we have a caught scum, so I'm waiting on her report before I go too deep into cases.

[Slaxx]

So why would scum no kill and give us an extra lynch?

Unless they tried to kill the tracker instead of DH?

Or DH is scum and didn't want any heat on him.

I don't think DH is scum though.

But why not kill the doctor...it doesn't make any sense? Scum must think they can survive another mislynch.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm actually quite shocked at the fact that I'm alive. But like I said:

-They could have killed Xine thinking I was bluffing.
-They could have no-killed in fear that they'd be tracked.

Those are pretty much the two options.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

In my opinion, scum thought they could manipulate you to help them.

[DemonHybrid]

In my opinion, scum thought they could manipulate you to help them.

How so?

[Nicodemus]

Vote Count 4.02

Socrates

(1): WeaponsofMassConstruction

boberz

(1): DemonHybrid

Not Voting:

boberz, charter, Slaxx, Socrates, Xine

4

to lynch.

Deadline for D4 can be found here

[Xine]

Hi there, for my track, I got Socrates not going anywhere.

[DemonHybrid]

Hi there, for my track, I got Socrates not going anywhere.

Alright.

Then it could still be one of the two options.

Mega-deducing powers, go!

[boberz]

Sorry completely out of access at the moment, correcting now. Hopefully going to post properly today.

[boberz]

Erm a no kill seems a really strange decision, don't get that at all. But my head just fills of wifom when I try to analyse it so I will not. But I am now prepared to accept that Xine is more or less confirmed, there is no value in a nolynch as xine scum.

But even number of players this close to endgame:

vote nolynch

[DemonHybrid]

Bobz, there wouldn't be 4 scum in a 12 person game unless it was really off balanced.

Just think with the rest of us.

Unvote

, I need to put more thought into this.

[DemonHybrid]

Let's start with some questions.

Socrates:

-I'd like you to post a case on WOMC, if your read on him still hasn't changed.
-What do you think of Oso's neutral read on both WOMC and Bub? His read on charter (still neutral)?

Charter:

-Your view on the no-kill situation?
-Has your view on Xine changed since the Day started?

WOMC:

-As said already, I'd like your opinion on boberz.
-You never fully explained your Lowell town read. Can you go into more detail about why you thought what you did and why it's not scum with a "told you so" ploy?

boberz:

-What did you mean when Lowell's scumminess was "just part of his meta"? Do you have any examples?
-Who do you think is likely scum and why?

[Xine]

DemonHybrid:
-Why did you only ask Charter what he thought of the no kill last night?
-Do you feel hypocritical for the amount of time you spent speculating on last nights no kill?

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid:
-Why did you only ask Charter what he thought of the no kill last night?
-Do you feel hypocritical for the amount of time you spent speculating on last nights no kill?

Charter spent the most time talking about your innocence and the fact that you could be a mafia tracker. I'd like to know what he thinks now. That and the fact that "Lowell was pushing Slaxx and that's scummy" was the only things he really talked about during Day 3.

And no; while there's no way for sure to know what happened last night, I never blamed anyone for going too WIFOMish about the no-kill last night. I don't think I am either; I just wanted his read and thoughts on you and what he could be thinking right now. I honestly think that him talking about a mafia tracker was WIFOMish, and while I don't want to promote WIFOM, his thoughts could be valuable as far as getting a read on him.

[Slaxx]

Yawn.

Who is scum Xine?

[DemonHybrid]

Yawn.

Who is scum Xine?

Same to you, who do you think is scum?

[Slaxx]

Idk. I will look over the thread this evening. Charter ain't looking so hot off the top of my head.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

-You never fully explained your Lowell town read. Can you go into more detail about why you thought what you did and why it's not scum with a "told you so" ploy?

Easier question first. In short, I had a gut town read on him, based on the confidence exuding from his posts, but I felt I needed to elaborate more in order to change your mind.

[Xine]

WOMC: It has been 22 hours since you promised an elaborate opinion on Boberz, I'm still waiting oh so patiently...

Slaxx: Waiting to hear from everybody before finalizing judgments, however, a very simplistic wagon analysis gave me these possible scum teams:
WOMC + Socrates or Boberz + Slaxx

I really want to hear what weapons has on bob, and what Socrates and charter have to say in general.

DH: when I asked if you were feeling hypocritical, I was talking about this:

Xvart's willingness to talk about the nightkill is looking bad. He's also posted significantly less than everyone else.

Vote: Xvart

Seriously, you're starting to talk more and all it does is detract from the scumhunting. Bad dog, no biscuit

[DemonHybrid]

That was a Night 1 no context nightkill. Any mention of a nightkill like that instead of looking at connections screams WIFOM.

We have all PRs outed and there was a no-kill last night. Since you had a track and since everyone had their own opinions of different players in last night's actions, it's worth an aside mentioning. Completely different ballgames, but I understand your concern.