Open 253: Sea Container C9++ [GAME OVER]

[sirdanilot]

I don't think there are regulations regarding deadline lynches in the OP. So hereby I let you know, that if no consensus is reached at deadline, a no-lynch will occur. I will add the following into the ruleset:

Deadline: If no consensus is reached before deadline, a no-lynch occurs. The length of deadlines depends on the setup, and will be posted at the start of each day. I will not extend deadlines unless explicitly requested and in special circumstances.

[Katsuki]

Wow. Did not realize it was the 5th already.

I WOULD LOVE EITHER A MOTHRAX OR SA LYNCH AT THIS POINT. WE ARE NOT NO-LYNCHING D1.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Unvote, Vote Andrew

Let's start a wagon and bring it to a lynch as fast as possible

No lynching is bad. Don't let it happen. Why Andrew? He's posted nothing but one-liners and looks like scum hiding in the background. And there's this gem:

err nexus, you have contributed next to nothing except for 'im v/la'

hypocracy much?

Anyone not voting Andrew in their next post has to explain either why no lynch is acceptable or why Andrew is town

[Katsuki]

Anyone not voting Andrew in their next post has to explain either why no lynch is acceptable or why Andrew is town

Unvote, Vote SA

I find it convenient how one of the options isn't "why someone else is scum", hmm?

THIS ONE IS TOO EASY. SA IS SCUM GUYS, TRYING TO USE DEADLINE LYNCH TO HIS ADVANTAGE.

[Sleepless Assassin]

On that note, SA, you mentioned that you don't think WIFOM is a bad thing. Your reasoning must have gone over my head. Could you please explain how WIFOM can be pro-town in any way?

This is a theory question and I don't want to spend too much time on it.

Basically, what is WIFOM? It's the "what ifs" and trying to determine

what

is being done and

why

.

Why would scum...

. Well, how do we catch scum if we don't determine what they

would

do?

Would

scum bandwagon, lurk, OMGUS, etc? It doesn't have to be those specifically, but anything considered to be scum-motivated is caught because we believe scum

would

do it. And questioning whether a player

would

do something as scum is complete WIFOM.

[Sleepless Assassin]

I find it convenient how one of the options isn't "why someone else is scum", hmm?

Um because the deadline is coming up and we don't have time to argue in circles. We need to come to a consensus, so because no one else has done it, I stepped up and said "here is who we are lynching."

THIS ONE IS TOO EASY. SA IS SCUM GUYS, TRYING TO USE DEADLINE LYNCH TO HIS ADVANTAGE.

I'm trying to lynch scum. Don't get in my way of that.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Also, Kat, why is Andrew town?

[Katsuki]

The better question that I answered was why I think you are scum.

[Sleepless Assassin]

the deadline is coming up and we don't have time to argue in circles.

I'm an active player who will be here to help lynch. Let's wagon someone who isn't.

[jmj3000]

the deadline is coming up and we don't have time to argue in circles.

I'm an active player who will be here to help lynch. Let's wagon someone who isn't.

... OH hai scum.

vote: SA

Lets see. Trying to push a wagon with deadline being the main reason for it? Check. Trying to scare people onto the wagon? Check. Trying to push a lynch on someone who apparently is't here to defend themselves? Check.

[Sleepless Assassin]

I might claim pretty early because of the deadline. I'll say for now that I'm a power role. Scum probably won't kill me just because I'm a lynch option.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Unvote, Vote Kat

Just because he has more votes than Andrew

[Mafuyu]

This SA wagon looks lovely. Mafuyu wishes to partake if she hasn't done so already from SA's crazy opening play.

Unvote Vote SA

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote Kat

Just because he has more votes than Andrew

THIS IS NOT HOW A PR WOULD PLAY.

ANY PRS OUT THERE, DO NOT OUT YOURSELVES TO SA. HE IS FISHING FOR PRS BEFORE HE DIES.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Claim Roleblocker

And if I was a scum roleblocker, I'd be smarter than to claim town roleblocker. I'd claim something more convincing and fun.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Unvote, Vote Kat

Just because he has more votes than Andrew

THIS IS NOT HOW A PR WOULD PLAY.

ANY PRS OUT THERE, DO NOT OUT YOURSELVES TO SA. HE IS FISHING FOR PRS BEFORE HE DIES.

What? This makes no sense. Nobody should counterclaim in this setup ever because there can be multiples of the same power role. And I play a power role the same way as I play a vanilla role during the day.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Oh, results. I didn't block anyone Night 0 because we had nothing to go by and I'd have a higher chance of blocking a power role than blocking scum.

[andrew94]

Unvote, Vote Andrew

Let's start a wagon and bring it to a lynch as fast as possible

No lynching is bad. Don't let it happen. Why Andrew? He's posted nothing but one-liners and looks like scum hiding in the background. And there's this gem:

err nexus, you have contributed next to nothing except for 'im v/la'

hypocracy much?

Anyone not voting Andrew in their next post has to explain either why no lynch is acceptable or why Andrew is town

i am town because i know who i am. i am not voting myself.
arude2boy has said nothing as well.
why not aim him huh?
nexus too why not huh?

[BlakAdder]

Oh my god quit squirming.
First, WIFOM is not asking "what if." It's circular reasoning and questions that can't be proven one way or the other. The kind that gets nobody nowhere and only chews up time.
Second, it's not your job to instruct the town who to lynch, regardless of how close the deadline is. It's up to the players to make their own decisions, and trying to get in the way of that is anti-town, if not flat-out scummy.
Third, derp I can't get suspicion off of me so I'll try to get suspicion onto an easy-target lurker.
Fourth, derp don't lynch me cuz I'm a power role.
Fifth, #139 is closer to WIFOM than how you defined it. "I can't be scum because if I was scum I wouldn't have claimed roleblocker." Well we only know that based on your words.
Sixth, just because nobody should out themselves doesn't mean that you're not hoping that someone would be reckless enough to.
And lastly, two double posts followed by a triple post seems to me like you're grasping at straws to get away from the spotlight.

We're at L-2 right? I want to make sure I have my count right before I vote.

[andrew94]

Oh my god quit squirming.
First, WIFOM is not asking "what if." It's circular reasoning and questions that can't be proven one way or the other. The kind that gets nobody nowhere and only chews up time.
Second, it's not your job to instruct the town who to lynch, regardless of how close the deadline is. It's up to the players to make their own decisions, and trying to get in the way of that is anti-town, if not flat-out scummy.
Third, derp I can't get suspicion off of me so I'll try to get suspicion onto an easy-target lurker.
Fourth, derp don't lynch me cuz I'm a power role.
Fifth, #139 is closer to WIFOM than how you defined it. "I can't be scum because if I was scum I wouldn't have claimed roleblocker." Well we only know that based on your words.
Sixth, just because nobody should out themselves doesn't mean that you're not hoping that someone would be reckless enough to.
And lastly, two double posts followed by a triple post seems to me like you're grasping at straws to get away from the spotlight.

We're at L-2 right? I want to make sure I have my count right before I vote.

o man, this is one of those posts that look town but is in fact scummy, i have no idea how to describe this

[Katsuki]

mafuyu was already voting SA.

I think we are quite a ways away from lynch if I am not mistaken.

We still got a day to get everything sorted out anyways.

P-EDIT: O HAI DERE I AM GONNA CALL THIS POST SCUMMY BUT DON'T KNOW WHY.

[BlakAdder]

HURR this post looks scummy but I don't know why

Explain your statement or your post means nothing and just makes you look scummy.

[andrew94]

err? why did u make up that quote.
i did not write that.
i wrote that a difrerent way.
pls change

[BlakAdder]

We all realize that that's not the way you said it. I changed it to make a point. Everyone does it. Nobody's going to believe you actually said it.

Answer my question.

[Sleepless Assassin]

i am town because i know who i am. i am not voting myself.
arude2boy has said nothing as well.
why not aim him huh?
nexus too why not huh?

They aren't as scummy.

Oh my god quit squirming.
First, WIFOM is not asking "what if." It's circular reasoning and questions that can't be proven one way or the other. The kind that gets nobody nowhere and only chews up time.
Second, it's not your job to instruct the town who to lynch, regardless of how close the deadline is. It's up to the players to make their own decisions, and trying to get in the way of that is anti-town, if not flat-out scummy.
Third, derp I can't get suspicion off of me so I'll try to get suspicion onto an easy-target lurker.
Fourth, derp don't lynch me cuz I'm a power role.
Fifth, #139 is closer to WIFOM than how you defined it. "I can't be scum because if I was scum I wouldn't have claimed roleblocker." Well we only know that based on your words.
Sixth, just because nobody should out themselves doesn't mean that you're not hoping that someone would be reckless enough to.
And lastly, two double posts followed by a triple post seems to me like you're grasping at straws to get away from the spotlight.

We're at L-2 right? I want to make sure I have my count right before I vote.

Ok, we disagree on what WIFOM is.

We need to lynch. I'm doing my part to help. We don't have time for much.

An easy lynch is better than no lynch.

Claiming is standard near a lynch. Not a scum tell.

If I was a scum roleblocker, it would make no sense at all to just claim roleblocker because it leaves that open. It's like the worst possible fakeclaim and I'm smarter than that.

If I wanted someone to out themself, I wouldn't point out that they shouldn't.

Don't double/triple posts add to spotlight, not take away from it?

o man, this is one of those posts that look town but is in fact scummy, i have no idea how to describe this

Huh?