Mini 1056 - NFL Mafia (Game Over)

[horrordude0215]

I will post tomorrow, sorry everyone!

[jimfinn]

1) shotty is actually trying to post content and back up his votes and suspicions with reasons. Something's up. (This point isn't totally serious, but this post

is

drastically different from my meta of town-shotty; something to keep in mind)

To be fair, it's pretty much different for him in general:I played with him as my scum buddy once, and he was terrible that game as well, so maybe he's just finally decided to take the game more seriously. Basically, I wouldn't look further into it than that, it's probably a null thing. It is good to see though. I do agree with you that his vote is weak, and Raj is a player I have no problems with so far, I think he's been decent.

I also like GW so far, his posts against Mongoose were much better done than mine, he gave way better reasoning for it, and actually exposed his flaws. That seems like scumhunting to me, so he's looking like town right now.

I still don't even get why Raz is considered suspicious in the first place, right now the only concern is the lack of content, which is the case for a few of us. For now it's probably best to give him some time to make a good post, and see if he delivers. If not, then maybe I'll find him suspicious. Right now he's really done nothing that would help determine his role, so he's completely null.

Coach Travis buddied excessively with DMSIS, especially in this post beofre the heat was really turned up on him. I'm going to agree and VOTE: Travis

[Coach Travis]

I know this looks bad for me, but the thing is, I remained rather consistent about Shotty the whole time, there was never this switch Antihero mentioned. My only bad post about was the one where I sorta defended him, but even there I admitted I didn't like him, and he was always one of my suspects. The post afterward wasn't the switch Antihero makes it out to be, because if you look through my posts you'll see the first time I mentioned Shotty he was my third suspect, so I always had a bad vibe from him, I just couldn't tell if he was scummy or just playing awful like usual. So basically, there never was this weird switch, I simply made a mistake because I hate policy lynches(which I felt Shotty was because I didn't nothing anything particularly scummy, and was more annoyed with his playstyle), which also stays true to something I said before the whole Shotty thing even started. I admit I was wrong about him, but I'm not his scum partner.

I still don't like Mongoose, for reasons I mentioned day one, and he probably was just sacrificing his partner once he knew it was unavoidable.

Vote:mongoose

I'm a TE, so for now I'd rather us lynch mongoose, figure out his role, and then let me investigate someone, since we have enough points now.

[Mariyta]

I know this looks bad for me, but the thing is, I remained rather consistent about Shotty the whole time, there was never this switch Antihero mentioned. My only bad post about was the one where I sorta defended him, but even there I admitted I didn't like him, and he was always one of my suspects. The post afterward wasn't the switch Antihero makes it out to be, because if you look through my posts you'll see the first time I mentioned Shotty he was my third suspect, so I always had a bad vibe from him, I just couldn't tell if he was scummy or just playing awful like usual. So basically, there never was this weird switch, I simply made a mistake because I hate policy lynches(which I felt Shotty was because I didn't nothing anything particularly scummy, and was more annoyed with his playstyle), which also stays true to something I said before the whole Shotty thing even started. I admit I was wrong about him, but I'm not his scum partner.

I still don't like Mongoose, for reasons I mentioned day one, and he probably was just sacrificing his partner once he knew it was unavoidable.

Vote:mongoose

I'm a TE, so for now I'd rather us lynch mongoose, figure out his role, and then let me investigate someone, since we have enough points now.

I'm at a loss for words... Why? Just why??

[Coach Travis]

Actually, forget that last part:If there's another TE, do not give yourself away, but I will hold off of my powers one more night, so I could be investigated, just to clear this mess up.

[Antihero]

not buying the claim

[Coach Travis]

I know some people won't believe it, which is why I suggested the second option of lynching someone else today, and hoping there's someone else who can investigate me. I don't want to be lynched over misinterpreted posts, that happens to me so often, it just pisses me off.

[charter]

VOTE COUNT

mongoose - 3 (Mariyta, rajrhcpfreak, Coach Travis)
Coach Travis - 3 (Antihero, Kdub, jimfinn)

NOT VOTING

mongoose
inHimshallibe
Locke Lamora
horrordude0215


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is October 18th, Noon.

Mongoose has limited access for a while but informs me he can still post during this time periodically.

[rajrhcpfreak]

ok travis is a moron. sorry i doubted you inhim.

now his claim. i was going over it and it sounds like there is a possibility of multiple LBs and TEs.
the easiest way to confirm coach is to tell everyone that if you are a TE, then dont use an action and coach should use an action, preferably the protection one so he doesn't waste a lot of our points. just to remind you coach, you outed yourself and if you use the cop ability you could use all our points and get injured tonight where we dont get any info.

[Coach Travis]

I only did that because I feared a bandwagon on me was quickly gaining momentum. And besides, with the possible roles made available to us before the game, roleclaiming isn't that bad an idea if you're potentially in danger, and it's not even guaranteed enough people will believe it anyway, so even if I survive I may not be NK'd.

And don't call me a moron, I have low self esteem and getting insulted online is not good for me at all, not when I'm already considering giving up mafia entirely because my first few games went so poorly.

[rajrhcpfreak]

but there is only one guarenteed TE.
TE is the only doctor/roleblocker that we have. and a pretty good cop, probably better than the QB.
now that you are out, theres noone to protect you. you getting NK'd is a wifom argument, that we will discuss if you survive tonight. the only thing that we can do is assume that the defense is going to maximize their game play which would be taking out a confirmed TE. that way the only night info the town can get is through the QB and if the QB comes out then he will be injured the next night. again the QB can only confirm who is good.
dont take offense to me calling you a moron. because right now i am probably one of the few that believe you. take my insults as constructive criticism.

just some mafia advice: even if a bandwagon forms, wait until you are at L-1 or L-2. if they kill you before you can claim then they will be giving themselves away as scum.

[mongoose]

I still don't like Mongoose, for reasons I mentioned day one, and he probably was just sacrificing his partner once he knew it was unavoidable. Vote:mongoose

I could say the same about you. I'm not sure why people are wagoning on me but if someone would care to elaborate I could explain.

I really dont like the claim by CT, but I would like to point out we still have an FB, to protect. If that is true, we can afford for him to inspect a player (most likely me, since I am the most suspicious, according to you all). If he says I'm scum, then you lynch me and we have proof that he is scum. On the other hand, the fact that we still have a full back means the real TE can claim, and be protected. If no one counter claims then he is confirmed, if someone does he isn't confirmed but not neccesarily scum either. thoughts?

[rajrhcpfreak]

oops i over looked that. but a FB may not be in the game only one TE, RB, LB, & QB are definitely in the game.
so there could be another "doctor role"

[Antihero]

UNVOTE: Coach Travis

Actually, the claim doesn't make much sense for scum-CT.

I'm really doubting there's more that one TE or LB (too many people using points for that to work; CT, if you really are the TE, use your investigation tonight).

From a scum point of view, Mari's vote for shotty is suboptimal. I'm ruling her out for now. Interactions with shotty decrease the chances of finding scum among jim, kdub, horrordude, and freak. That leaves inhim and mongoose.

VOTE: inHimshallibe

[Locke Lamora]

Mod: I'm moving house this week so I won't have much time. V/LA until Friday.

[Mariyta]

UNVOTE: Coach Travis

Actually, the claim doesn't make much sense for scum-CT.

I'm really doubting there's more that one TE or LB (too many people using points for that to work; CT, if you really are the TE, use your investigation tonight).

From a scum point of view, Mari's vote for shotty is suboptimal. I'm ruling her out for now. Interactions with shotty decrease the chances of finding scum among jim, kdub, horrordude, and freak. That leaves inhim and mongoose.

VOTE: inHimshallibe

Speaking of inHim, where'd he go? He's disappeared in both the games I'm in with him.

CT, Raj gives you some good advice. If you have a PR, it's in your best interest to hold out claiming until you have to. First, you reveal yourself to scum and make yourself a likely NK. Second, you send your fellow townies into fits. Not nice.

[Kdub]

What happens if multiple TEs try to use points on the same night?

I am still suspicious of CT based on interactions with shotty, but if we are going to let him live to prove his role, I could get behind an inHim lynch.

[rajrhcpfreak]

What happens if multiple TEs try to use points on the same night?

good question. i pm'ed the mod

[Antihero]

What happens if multiple TEs try to use points on the same night?

that's why I'm doubtful there's multiple TEs

that late vote yesterday + aweful GW vote = yuck

an inhim wagon would be great

[charter]

If multiple TE/LB try to use an action on the same night, as long as there are enough points on their team for all of them to use an action, they all will. If there aren't enough points for all of them, then whoever PM's me first after I've closed the thread and it's night gets first priority, whoever PM's me second gets second priority, so on..

[mongoose]

vote: inhimshallbe

not one thing productive, and no explanations. Ok, one post with an explanation (#220)

That's seriously your reasoning?

No, I completely made that reason up to see how you (and I was hoping other players) would react. Your reaction is satisfactory.

UNVOTE: Mariyta

Are you one of them? jk. I dont see what the whole "policy" fuss is about at all.

Not giving any opinions on other players + criticizing other player's opinions with no reasons = scummy
VOTE: mongoose

I kinda see it as nothing more than a conversation starter to be honest, I see people calling for Policy lynches etc early on a few times and its done to stimulate conversation. Besides, how many actual policy lynches happen on day 1?

Discussion about discussion = fail
Please start posting real content.

He is town based on what exactly?

This post pinged on my scumdar a bit. Kdub isn't calling inhim out on a scumslip, but instead seems annoyed that inhim has such an early townread on freak. IGMEOY

<3

unvote
vote: mongoose

):

It's a heart.

I rarely explain town reads. I'm not ignoring anything, I just think rajtown is so obv it DEFINITELY doesn't need explanation.

Welcome, Locke! MORE VOTES ON MONGOOSE ARE REQUESTED. Thanks.

LL, we're best friends, so maybe I'm just biased? IDK. I have a good handle on rajtown, though, and this is it.

I'm actually fine with Jim for now though. I cannot wait to she him live up to this.

That should be "see", not "she"...

Yet still no unvote?

unvote
vote: GhostWriter

Tricksy scum.

Remind me why we ever switched from mongoose again?

i agree with coach travis in the fact that the case on Kdub is very weak and I really don't think he is that scummy. He pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Also, I do agree with antihero about horrordude. His tends to respond to inquisition by questions of his own. Also, his pots just seem off.

unvote;vote horrordude

"Agree on this, agree on that, and also his posts just seem off."

"and also his posts just seem off."
Covering all the bases, I see.

unvote
vote: mongoose

Let's get this back on track.

Indeed it was a bad call, based on the actual circumstances.

unvote

Be back in a bit.

I would like to point out he never came back

LOL

Where so you see a good post in these?

[Mariyta]

Mongoose is so scummy, it hurts.

[inHimshallibe]

UNVOTE: Coach Travis

Actually, the claim doesn't make much sense for scum-CT.

I'm really doubting there's more that one TE or LB (too many people using points for that to work; CT, if you really are the TE, use your investigation tonight).

From a scum point of view, Mari's vote for shotty is suboptimal. I'm ruling her out for now. Interactions with shotty decrease the chances of finding scum among jim, kdub, horrordude, and freak.

That leaves inhim and mongoose.

VOTE: inHimshallibe

Italics mine

Remind me again why it's

not

mongoose? We had two scum on Day 1, dead to rights. Lets finish what we started.

vote: mongoose

mongoose comes out firing against me as soon as Antihero sets up this dichotomy. Convenient.

[Antihero]

vote: inhimshallbe

not one thing productive, and no explanations. Ok, one post with an explanation (#220)

That's seriously your reasoning?

No, I completely made that reason up to see how you (and I was hoping other players) would react. Your reaction is satisfactory.

UNVOTE: Mariyta

Are you one of them? jk. I dont see what the whole "policy" fuss is about at all.

Not giving any opinions on other players + criticizing other player's opinions with no reasons = scummy
VOTE: mongoose

I kinda see it as nothing more than a conversation starter to be honest, I see people calling for Policy lynches etc early on a few times and its done to stimulate conversation. Besides, how many actual policy lynches happen on day 1?

Discussion about discussion = fail
Please start posting real content.

He is town based on what exactly?

This post pinged on my scumdar a bit. Kdub isn't calling inhim out on a scumslip, but instead seems annoyed that inhim has such an early townread on freak. IGMEOY

<3

unvote
vote: mongoose

):

It's a heart.

I rarely explain town reads. I'm not ignoring anything, I just think rajtown is so obv it DEFINITELY doesn't need explanation.

Welcome, Locke! MORE VOTES ON MONGOOSE ARE REQUESTED. Thanks.

LL, we're best friends, so maybe I'm just biased? IDK. I have a good handle on rajtown, though, and this is it.

I'm actually fine with Jim for now though. I cannot wait to she him live up to this.

That should be "see", not "she"...

Yet still no unvote?

unvote
vote: GhostWriter

Tricksy scum.

Remind me why we ever switched from mongoose again?

i agree with coach travis in the fact that the case on Kdub is very weak and I really don't think he is that scummy. He pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Also, I do agree with antihero about horrordude. His tends to respond to inquisition by questions of his own. Also, his pots just seem off.

unvote;vote horrordude

"Agree on this, agree on that, and also his posts just seem off."

"and also his posts just seem off."
Covering all the bases, I see.

unvote
vote: mongoose

Let's get this back on track.

Indeed it was a bad call, based on the actual circumstances.

unvote

Be back in a bit.

I would like to point out he never came back

LOL

Where so you see a good post in these?

Oh... so inhim isn't your buddy, either.

UNVOTE: inHimshallibe

@mongoose: How about Locke? What do you think of him?

@inhim: To be sure, mongoose is the lynch for today; now I'm trying to find the 3rd scum.

[Antihero]

Oh, and for all the mongoose wagon doubters out there:

I'm leaving my vote on DMSIS in light of his recent posts. Only for scum does it really make a difference who is the hammer, in my experience. Scum want towncred for hammering their buddy, but the town doesn't care who hammers as long as the scum dies.

^this