Mini 1023 - City Watch Mafia - Game Over!

[Budja]

^ Right on all counts.

VOTE: Button
Pretty much everything points this way.

VOTE COUNT

TheButtonmen (2): FakeGod, Budja

Not Voting (3): Plum, TheButtonmen, Thor665

[FakeGod]

If possible, I rather have town get 2 lynches in before game ends, rather than only 1.

[Plum]

Got a good idea for that one?

If we lynch wrong today AND the Lovers are both Town we lose (unless the remaining Townie miraculously gets a power. Yeah not happening I don't think).
If we lynch wrong today AND one of the Lovers is scum probably I'm killed tonight, then lynch the Lovers next, on principle of someone who doesn't hammer in LYLO = confirmed Town/if you're wrong you're screwed already anyway.
If we don't lynch today and the Lovers are both Town then either I'm killed and bad WIFOM situation tomorrow or the Lovers are killed and we have only one lynch before endgame anyway.
If we don't lynch today and one of the Lovers is scum then I'm killed and bad WIFOM situation tomorrow as above.

In conclusion, we can't guarantee two lynches, but will probably get them if one of the Lovers is scum. We won't get two lynches and will get a WIFOM headache if we no-lynch.

SO.

[FakeGod]

wait, when does a lover die when his/her partner is killed?

[Plum]

Immediately. I believe it triggers automatically and resolves at the same moment of the other Lover's death in usual action resolution.

[Budja]

If one of us is killed, Fakegod is scum.
I'm pretty sure we will win on Button's lynch.

[TheButtonmen]

This game is giving me WIFOM induced headaches whenever I try to figure it out but I keep reaching the approximately the same conclusions so here's my thoughts on the matter.

I really don't see FG scum, I've had a town read on him most of the game and he doesn't really jive with the dead scum we have.

Therefore I think the PoE that fingered me and FG is flawed.

The kills are making me

However PoE could only have been planned out in advance by one of the lovers.

Budja works better with the flipped scum then thor.

Budja's play today bugs me.

The mod effectively handing out the same role twice is odd.

Vote: Budja

.

[Plum]

???????

Therefore I think the PoE that fingered me and FG is flawed.

The kills are making me

However PoE could only have been planned out in advance by one of the lovers.

How so? How would you interpret the PoE?

[TheButtonmen]

I know my alignment, I think FG is town therefore the PoE that says one of us must be scum is wrong imo.

[Plum]

Yeah, but for an argument to sway me I'll need something more objective than that. Look, Budja's bothered me, too, but it seems much less likely that he's scum than you are from the objective PoE solutions implemented. What would you suggest is the flaw in our thinking?

[TheButtonmen]

Trust me if I could point at something specific I would but there is no obvious flaw in the PoE, it makes sense.

However I have a piece of information you people don't (my aligment) and a stubborn town read on FakeGod so I know the end result of the PoE is wrong, therefore I know the PoE itself is flawed.

-shrug-

Can't do much more then that I'm afraid but on the bright side your now 100% cleared for not just auto-hammering so barring Fakegod scum really pulling the wool over my eyes then town auto wins tomrrow.

[Plum]

Hmmmm.

All right, FakeGod being prob. not scum according to everyone, we can almost certainly even afford to be wrong on you today, so. I'll wait and see the others' response to you, but your lynch is happening today.

[TheButtonmen]

Sounds good, see you guys and gal post game.

[Thor665]

Town wanting to lynch one half of a lover pair with 5 alive seems a pretty daft play - if lovers are a lynch then we're the lynch tomorrow.

I support Button lynch.

I'll hammer him tomorrow so town has a bit more time to ramble if they want, but I just want the flips at this stage.

[Thor665]

I also support the Budja lynch tomorrow - I've gone town on FG now. More the fool me.

[Budja]

^ Should we both survive the night, I will self-hammer.

Waiting on the hammer.

[FakeGod]

I guess Thor will be hammering soon then.

[Thor665]

No whammy, no whammy...

Vote: TheButtonmen

[Thor665]

^ Should we both survive the night, I will self-hammer.

Just making sure my thoughts on FG are known, regardless.

[molestargazer]

That's a lynch guys.
I'm preparing the lynch scene, but unfortunately now I must get ready / go out. It will be ready tomorrow.

Sorry for the delay!

[molestargazer]

VOTE COUNT

TheButtonmen (3): FakeGod, Budja, Thor665

Budja (1): TheButtonmen

Not Voting (1): Plum

With 5 alive, it took 3 to lynch.

Captain Carrot sat at a table in the canteen forlornly, staring up to where, just the day before, Commander Vimes had stood. He sighed, and took comfort in his weekly pasttime - writing home.

Dearest Mume and Dad,

Today is, a sad day for the Watch. Commander Vimes who, we all looked up to as, a great mann, was killed last night. There's not many of us left now, but I still think if we band together we can pull through.

He paused for a minute to look up at the other Watchmen, bickering quietly amongst themselves.

Sergeant Angua seems particularly upset. I tried to comfort her but she just said, for gods' sake Carrot, can't you think about anyone but Vimes for once. I think she is just stressed. Her stress has happened before but previously my friends tried to take me out to an ale-house to cheer me up but, they all just ended up passing out on the floor. I didn't feel any better. I-

"Oi!" A watchman on the other side of the canteen shouted.
"That's Captain Carrot to you, thank you." Carrot stood up. "I know Commander Vimes isn't here now but we should still keep standards." The present members of the watch rolled their eyes, but Carrot still walked over, breastplate gleaming.

"We reckon it's... y'know... him." The watchman was A.E. Pessimal. Carrot frowned.
"Who?"
"Constable Downspout, Sir." Dorfl stepped forward now. "We Think It Is A Perfect Disguise For A Traitor, Sir."
Carrot considered this for a moment, then nodded slowly.
"OK." He opened the door and left the canteen. The others followed and walked into the lobby of Pseudopolis Yard, where... Carrot had vanished.
"What?"
The watchmen stood awkwardly for a few moments, but the sound of Carrot's boots could be heard coming down from Commander Vimes' office. He was carrying something behind his back.
"Well, go on then!" He motioned with his empty hand to outside the front. The remaining Watchmen (and one woman) trooped obediently into the street.

"Downspout?" There was no response.
"We think it's you, Downspout, so-"
Carrot was interrupted by a puff of pink smoke. Angua instinctively ducked, and was rewarded by not receiving a knife through her eye. A second slammed into Carrot's breastplate, and he staggered back, but didn't draw his blade.
A figure dropped out of the purple smoke, and landed in a beartrap Carrot had placed underneath Downspout's haunt. It snapped shut with a horrible shout.
"Carcer?!"
The groaning man on the floor had dropped two more knives. Tentatively, he reached out for one.

The expression on Carrot's face changed to one it rarely showed - anger.
"I don't think we can have that." He drew his sword and drove it through the man on the floor. The others started at him, shocked.
"Well..." He said in an attempt to be his usual airy self, "I think that's sorted."

TheButtonmen, AKA Carcer Dun, MAFIA GODFATHER, has been lynched.

TOWN WIN!

Congratulations!

[molestargazer]

Night Actions & Day Power Information:

Role PMs:

(WARNING: Very, very large amount of text in the spoiler)

Spoiler:

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, VasudeVa!

You are

Commander Sam Vimes

. As a Duke of Ankh-Morkpork and Commander of the Watch, you sometimes wish for the days where you could actually patrol rather than having to deal with everyone else's problems. Although weaned off drinking by your wife, Sybil (you're now on Cigars instead), you'll still have a drink with the watch occasionally - and you definitely find you think better after a few glasses of Bearhugger's. You are fiercly loyal to protecting the members of your watch, and the city.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, Budja!

You are

Captain Carrot Ironfoundersson

. A 6-foot muscular human, you were adopted and raised by mountain dwarves who worked in mines with very low ceilings, which earned you the dwarfish name translated loosely as 'Head-banger'. With absolutely no knowledge of sarcasm or metaphor, taking every instruction word-for-word

("Throw the book at him, Carrot.")

you originally struggled to adapt to life in Ankh-Morkpork, but soon found your feet and became very well-known amongst the community - even in the community which defined itself by committing the crimes you intended to stop.
A relationship with a female officer and werewolf, Sgt. Angua, developed rapidly but became a little strained after an incident involving creaky bedsprings, curtains, a full moon, and a drawn sword. Still, you often find yourself longingly looking at her and wishing things could be taken further, and there were whispers that she was doing the same.

You are a

LOVER

with Thor665.
You may talk to your lover during night phases only in this quicktopic.
You do not know your lover's alignment.
If your Lover dies, you will commit suicide at the next night phase (not in the same one), and vice-versa.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, jimfinn!

You are

Constable Reginald Shoe

. You were as surprised as anyone at taking 5 crossbow bolts to the chest during the Treacle Mine Road rebellions. You were just as surprised when you got up again. Since that time, you've lived your life as a zombie, originally running a campaign for Undead rights in the city by putting running meetings and putting notes on the underside of a coffin lid in case people wake up. Since then, you were recruited into the Watch, and have been living(?) quite comfortably since.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, Mysterio!

You are

Corporal 'Nobby' Nobbs

. Starting off life as a Street Urchin on the streets of Ankh-Morpork, you were recruited by Sgt. John Keel after he gave you a spoon and used you to spy on the enemy during the Treacle Mine Road rebellion. The masses of boils and spots on your face and general appearance means you now carry a certificate, signed by the Patrician, to prove that you're human.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, Thor665!

You are

Sergeant Delphine Angua

. You were originally hired into the Ankh-Morpork City Watch after an affirmative action program by the patrician meant you were hired as a "minority" (being both a woman, and a werewolf). Your sensitive nose as a wolf and general ability meant you were quickly promoted to Sergeant.
A relationship with a human officer, Captain Carrot, developed rapidly but became a little strained after an incident involving creaky bedsprings, curtains, a full moon, and a drawn sword. Even so, you can't help yourself but wishing you could be together, despite your "abnormality", and heard that he does the same.

You are a

LOVER

with Budja.
You may talk to your lover during night phases only in this quicktopic.
You do not know your lover's alignment.
If your Lover dies, you will commit suicide at the next night phase (not in the same one), and vice-versa.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, PLAYER6!

You are

Sergeant Detritus

. As a troll originally hired by a pub to act as a "splatter" (Like a bouncer but more brutal), you came clean and was hired by the Ankh-Morpork City Watch after meeting your wife Ruby. Since then, your natural leadership abilities and relative intelligence (compared to most trolls) meant you were promoted to the rank of Sergeant and became responsible for training new recruits.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, PLAYER7!

You are

Constable Dorfl

. As a Golem, you were originally voiceless, an animated clay figure. However, through a bizarre series of circumstances, you were given a voice and could think for yourself. Your main use to the watch is your incredible strength, but now you feel you owe them the duty of finding who is plotting to kill off the watch.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, PLAYER8!

You are

Lance-Constable A.E. Pessimal

. Born to parents who decided to give you initials rather than a name, your smart appearance meant you naturally gravitated to the role of a civil servant for Lord Vetinari. However, after being sent to investigate the Watch, you were shoved into the role of Special Constable by an angry Commander Vimes. You very much enjoyed the role, even the part where you attacked a troll with your teeth, and decided to sign up to the watch. Since then you've handled a lot of the paperwork for Vimes and you feel you have found your calling.

You are a

TOWNIE

.
You have no powers other than your vote to lynch during the day and the discussion.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, PLAYER9!

You are

Constable Igor

. As an Igor considered "too modern" by his family (You sometimes even forget to lisp), you went to Ankh-Morpork with Commander Vimes and ended up being recruited as a medical "specialist" in that you're very handy in sewing limbs back on when necessary - and your patients often even survive, contrary to general Ankh-Morpork medical practice.

You are a

DOCTOR

.
Once per night, you may PM me with the name of a player. That player will be protected from being killed on that night.
You win when all the Mafia are dead and there is at least one surviving town member.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, TheButtonmen!

You are

Carcer Dun

. After being arrested by Vimes of the City Watch, you escaped the dungeons only through the help of an idiotic guard and a fifth knife you managed to smuggle into the jail cells. You're now out for revenge on the Watch, stocking up on your knife collection and practicing your innocent smile. This time, you'll make them pay.
You managed to make a few allies who will be with you in your quest:

Grag Hamcrusher

(Chronopie) - A dwarf, apparently dead, but who now wants the watch out of the way so he can finally create his war against the trolls.

Chrysoprase

(Tasky) - The leader of the Troll gang the Breccia, who want the watch out of the way to continue their pipeline of smuggling Slab into the city.

You are a

MAFIA GODFATHER

.
You may talk with your allies, Chronopie and Tasky, during night phases only in this quicktopic.
Once per night, you or any other member of the mafia may send in a name of a player to me. A kill attempt will be made on that player.
You are immune to any investigative roles the town may have.

No-one in this game has the role of Constable Downspout:

Constable Downspout was a gargoyle, essentially a stone statue who was hired by the watch as a 'surveillance expert', described by Commander Vimes as the world champion at staying still. He doesn't drink, but instead pours things through his ear. He's paid in pigeons, having no use for money, which tends to cause confusion in the palace when your pay is given.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, Chronopie!

You are

Grag Hamcrusher

. You are one of the leaders of the dwarves in Ankh-Morkpork, and preach the superiority of dwarf over troll. Your apparent murder almost provoked all-out war in the city between dwarves and trolls, but the efforts of the City Watch caused peace. You're out for one last try, and decided first to take down the watch after being approached by a man with the same goal. Your allies are:

Carcer Dun

(TheButtonmen) - A psychotic man who wants to take down the City Watch for... well... whatever reason.

Chrysoprase

(Tasky) - A troll, leader of some troll Gang who wants the watch out of the way to continue their illegal goings-on in the city.

You are a

MAFIA GOON

.
You may talk with your allies, TheButtonmen and Tasky, during night phases only in this quicktopic.
Once per night, you or any other member of the mafia may send in a name of a player to me. A kill attempt will be made on that player.

No-one in this game has the role of Sergeant Fred Colon.

As one of the first members of the Night Watch, you're given a certain amount of respect by the newer officers - but not too much. Since beneath the experience is a fat, slightly cowardly man who has the role of Custody Officer in the watch. However, your experience on the street has given you a sense of when things are wrong - and it's definitely now.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

Welcome to City Watch Mafia, Tasky!

You are

Chrysoprase

. As the leader of the troll gang the Breccia, your imports of Slab came under scrutiny by the watch - and you can't have

dat

. After some loony came to you with the idea of helping to bring down the watch, you couldn't say no - if dat interfering Vimes went down, your profits would soar since your pipelines wouldn't be under threat.
Your allies are:

Carcer Dun

(TheButtonmen) - A psychotic man who wants to take down the City Watch for... well... whatever reason.

Grag Hamcrusher

(Chronopie) - A dwarf who wants the watch out of the way so he can continue his extremeist preachings.

You are a

MAFIA GOON

.
You may talk with your allies, TheButtonmen and Chronopie, during night phases only in this quicktopic.
Once per night, you or any other member of the mafia may send in a name of a player to me. A kill attempt will be made on that player.

No-one in this game has the role of Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom.

Despite everyone giggling at her name, Sgt Littlebottom was recruited into the watch as a Dwarven (female, despite the beard) Alchemist to investigate crime scenes. Despite her general ill disposition towards other dwarves (She became fed up of quaffing ale and singing

"Gold, gold, gold"

long ago), she has become very useful to the watch and ended up as a Sergeant.

To confirm your role, please go into the thread and swear the oath:

I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].

[molestargazer]

Mod's Comments:

I was very pleased with how the game went, even with the odd mass prod required to keep things moving. I think a few things about the setup need explaining, however.

As things were, the setup seems unbalanced in favour of the town. However:
- Had one lover died, the other would have done. This would lose the town valuable powerroles and communication skills.
- The lovers were unconfirmed to each other. This was more likely to lead to their deaths.
- Although every day's power had a backup, the probability of both Budja (being a lover) and Plum both being alive at Day 4 was enough to ensure the scum had a chance to stop that power from being given entirely.
- Powers were only planned until D4. They would have ended anyway then no matter who had died overnight (it was nothing to do with Vimes).
- TheButtonmen was immune to both the Cop & Lie Detector. Which could've swung things in the scum's favour.

I would also like to know how many of you read / enjoyed the flavour text - as despite most of it being written on the fly (with the exception of the first 3 days' worth of powers and the intro text), I thought it was pretty decent.

Discuss! Any questions for me, or any comments on my modding I would love to hear.

[Budja]

The flavour was good. I liked your attempt at capturing Pratchett's style*.
I am surprised with the way you assigned PR's, I really was expecting them to be handed out by scum at the end . FG was right for the wrong reasons.

Anyway I enjoyed this game despite my completely faulty scum-dar.
(Notice my late breadcrumbs on the delayed kill. That was my backup plan if FG was scum.)

*including footnotes.

[Tasky]

good game.
town played well after all.
yeah, I guess it was balanced after all and we just failed to play this right.
Once again it's confirmed that I'm just not capable of playing scum. lol

mole, your modding was good. I liked the vote-count-edit-into-first-post thing too even if I was skeptical at first.
overall a very enjoyable game.


see ya all again soon.