Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[Jack]

ckd's not reading the thread stuff sounded fake to me

[curiouskarmadog]

ckd's not reading the thread stuff sounded fake to me

which part sounded fake and why? and if I was scum, what were the motives do you think...I mean, if you really believe this deserved an FOS..back that shit up. You think it was scummy, explain why!

[Jack]

I did a pbpa on you last page. Skipped that one hmmmmm????

[curiouskarmadog]

I did a pbpa on you last page. Skipped that one hmmmmm????

umm, what?

here are your posts for the last page.

fos:ckd

Do you usually not finish reading the thread before replying?

that's vollkans playstyle

maybe you meant 2 pages back...

nope.

vote:snakeplissken

this is it..

vote Jack

...maybe this will help you...I dont believe for a second that you think anything I did is scummy. now you are backtracking.

[Jack]

um I think I'LL NEED AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT VOTE CKD WHICH PART IS SCUMMY AND WHY QUIT STALLING

[curiouskarmadog]

wtf?

[curiouskarmadog]

I DONT BELIEVE YOU THINK ANYTHING I DID TODAY IS SCUMMY....you cant seem to explain why my actions (not reading before posting) is scummy....now you are...well, I dont know what the fuck you are doing, but you are not answering questions and backtracking..

explain why my posts today deserved an FOS...

[Jack]

YOU FIRST SCUMBAG..
.
YOUHAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION

[LimMePls]

I don't like the way this day is heading. I think the huge delay between day 2 and day 3 is making it hard for me to re-engage with this game.

I don't like the vollkan case AT ALL.

It appears the Snake is a watcher. But given the nature of the town "neighborhoods" I'm wondering if watcher might actually be a good scum PR in this game. Thoughts?

[Jack]

no...he claimed because of incorrect result from mod. Don't see scum doing that.

[LimMePls]

no...he claimed because of incorrect result from mod. Don't see scum doing that.

Well, he'd already obv breadcrumbed it here:

unvote

Came in late and didn't realise that RV had pretty much finished. I shoule

Watch

out more I guess.

(My bold his caps)

And, IIRC people discussed this D1, so the fact that he is a watcher was out there. Am I misremembering this? Which begs another question, why would the scum leave a claimed watcher alive?

LMP- Is your case still based on the "he voted and HoS in the same post" theory?

@a2rude: Please explain this to me. Because it reads to me like you knew CD would flip town, thus hoping my case on you would vanish.

[curiouskarmadog]

YOU FIRST SCUMBAG..
.
YOUHAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION

what question might that be???...

also why did you lie and say you did a pbp?

[Jack]

Keep looking...

[Jack]

I don't remember any discussion of snake as a watcher.

[horrordude0215]

CKD, Jack is town, so get your vote off of him

[curiouskarmadog]

do you understand anything he is fucking saying or doing?

[Jack]

oh hi ckd, nice of you to

drop in

[curiouskarmadog]

WTF!

[curiouskarmadog]

give me that post number for the pbp...

[silverbullet999]

this conversation between jack and ckd humors me greatly.

[PranaDevil]

horrordude, what makes you think Jack is town? He's not even attempted to be useful all damned game. He's been completely useless all the way through, and now is just creating massive distraction by claiming something that isn't true (he did no pbp on CKD).

Also, there was plenty of discussion about Snake being a watcher because it was in regards to Looker pointing it out.

As for why he would be kept alive... what about the fact there's been kills of CKD's partner and Pom's partner? It's entirely possible that what Pom said earlier is possible, scum tried framing her, and previously tried to frame CKD. Of course, if one of them is scum then it would make sense to get rid of their partner so they could use the ability themselves.

[a2rudeboy]

@LMP- How does it read in that way?
I was asking if your case on me was still based mainly on the post in which i voted/fos'd at the same time (a case which i found weak) or if you had picked up new information from other posts which have strengthened your case.

[RedCoyote]

Vote Count

silverbullet999(0) -

Jack(3)

- a2rudeboy, PranaDevil, curiouskarmadog
evilpacman18(0) -

curiouskarmadog(1)

- SnakePlissken
LynchMePls(0) -
horrordude0215(0) -

vollkan(1)

- evilpacman18
a2rudeboy(0) -
Pomegranate(0) -

SnakePlissken(1)

- Jack
PranaDevil(0) -

Not Voting(4)

- vollkan, Pomegranate, horrordude0215, LynchMePls

With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch

Deadline: November 1st, 2010, 2:00 AM, Central Standard Time

[vollkan]

1. Nobody has asked me to until you.

Wrong:

that's vollkans playstyle

Policy lynch then?

You didn't even try to argue that the 'case' you had made against me was actually valid in relation to my alignment. Instead, you immediately suggest a policy lynch instead.

2. Because your meta is decidedly anti-town.
3. I'll admit I was unaware of your [moar sarcasm]godly history[/moar sarcasm] and that it was against the rules to suspect you so when I wrote it, it was scumhunting, not a policy lynch suggestion. I'll support a lynch of you for any reason, however, because of number 2. Your meta allows you to get away with not giving opinions. Labeling stuff and giving it a number and then "interrogating" as your entire meta means it would be basically impossible for you to slip, and very easy for you to stay in meta for the duration of a game. A policy lynch on you is fine because you're more of a threat than you actually help.

Since the above is simply arguing for a policy lynch, I'm not the least bit inclined to respond.

I will, however, ask you to explain why you aren't a hypocrite for joining the game and attacking me for doing nothing (which is crap, btw) when, at the same time, the sum total of your contribution thus far has been a playstyle attack.

And, IIRC people discussed this D1, so the fact that he is a watcher was out there. Am I misremembering this? Which begs another question, why would the scum leave a claimed watcher alive?

WIFOM is a possibility, though in a game where there are so many other claimed power roles who would be obvious targets for a town watcher, that seems less likely than usual.

The more likely possibility is just that the other power roles were more attractive, given that they had claimed rather than crumbed. Having said that, looking at the flipped roles plus the claims, I'm really confused as to how (if?) this game is balanced.

horrordude, what makes you think Jack is town? He's not even attempted to be useful all damned game. He's been completely useless all the way through, and now is just creating massive distraction by claiming something that isn't true (he did no pbp on CKD).

FWIW, I've been in a few games with Jack lately, and his playstyle always makes no sense to me.

@Jack: is the sole reason for you suspecting CKD that his claim of not reading the thread 'sounded fake'?

[LimMePls]

@LMP- How does it read in that way?
I was asking if your case on me was still based mainly on the post in which i voted/fos'd at the same time (a case which i found weak) or if you had picked up new information from other posts which have strengthened your case.

You fos:CD and vote someone else. We all point out how scummy that looks, and that if CD is scum, you probably are too. When we're nearly at a lynch on CD, you come in and ask if that is all the case is on you. Looks like you knew his flip would show town, and you hoped the case on you would go away, because clearly your fos:CD/vote other doesn't look scummy when the person you fos isn't scum.

When I have time, (certainly not now) you'll be getting an ISO, although IIRC it won't take very long.