Mini 1069 - Hospital Madness Mafia (Game Over!)

[TheLonging]

vote: parama

policy vote.

prove me wrong.

The mod is not a player in this game.

[TheLonging]

For people who are not Parama: why would you guys be opposed to a Parama policy lynch?

Votes on the mod will not be counted. Just giving you a heads-up.

[TheLonging]

it isn't possible to lynch the mod, so why couldn't you RVS vote Parama? Or why isn't that a good idea?

[TheLonging]

Vote: TheLonging

For trying to lynch the mod.

see guys, this is why RVS is good

Vote: TheLonging

He knows why.

wat I do :<

Cooldog: It's IMPOSSIBLE to lynch the mod. If we get the majority of votes on him, none of it would count, and it's as if we never voted. It's not a bastard mod game, so he can't be lynched anyways. So I ask again: Why is RVS voting Parama bad?

[TheLonging]

There may be, idk, but my vote not landing on parama indicates otherwise. Maybe.

[TheLonging]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheLonging
Biggest wagon

chesskid is scum, exe is town. Great to know we got 1 scum so far.

unvote
vote: chesskid3

[TheLonging]

I don't give a shit about NS, and he's not buddying, but feel free to point out examples.

[TheLonging]

Try reading the thread.

You... you can't explain the false accusations you have against me for buddying. That's unbelievable.

So NS unvoted me, thus we're scum and/or he's buddying up to me and/or I'm buddying up to him? If this is the only reason you're calling me scum, I expect you to make no reservations calling everyone in this game scum.

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Bandwagons are good. Bandwagons get info. That is why voting for the mod is a bad idea. Your vote doesn't count and it is counterproductive. (On top of all the other things said)

Any RVS wagon would be productive, even an RVS wagon on the mod. Also I love how my wagon just quickly dissipates.

Cooldog: I'm giving content and participating, and I already said; he voted me because NS unvoted for me, which means us 2 must be buddying, when in reality, I couldn't give a shit if NS was lynched and I don't care that he's trying to buddy up with me. I'm only concerned about chesskid misrepping us, and trying to turn what I do into unworthy mentions.

Moo: Because scum don't join a wagon within the 2nd vote or so. I also know exemeta. He's not playing smart, but he's town. Someone tell me when we use the term buddying correctly.

"I think TLing (I like that, it's short and cool) is a bit ... opportunistic about distancing from me. Trust me on this, if nothing else, he and I are NOT buddies in any sense."

Can people actually make more sense now? This makes no sense. Also I do not like being called TLing

[TheLonging]

He's not playing smart, but he's town.

Psh, not playing smart my ass. I've caught scum with my strategy multiple times now.

CEB begs to differ otherwise e_e

[TheLonging]

Again please don't call me TLing. It pisses me off for some reason, idk.

e_e

[TheLonging]

you have some amazing asinine logic.

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I now have 12 posts in this thread. If you can tell me 4 or 5 of these posts where I have not posted content, I will give you a legitimate reason why. Hint: My vote for Parama does not count.

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OK, so I have a shower, then I'll be awesome and reply against chesskid's wall and Cooldog's posts for me

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@TL okay, all take you up on that challenge.

Post #1= #12 on your ISO. This does not in itself generate content...
However, one could argue that my post based on your post generates content, thus your post generated content....

So it has thus creates content

Post#1b= #4 on your ISO. This doesn't generate content, you don't pose a question or answer one, or post any suspicions.
Post#2= #5, on your ISO. No reasons for vote other "HES DA SCUM" which is never a valid reason.

However my vote generates content in the fact that I give my suspicion, act on it, generate talk for my vote.

Post# 3= #9 (

my lucky

fav number) , on your ISO. This is just baseless bickering in response to baseless bickering... No real content here.
*Drum-role plz*

In response to my meta-read on Exe, why I call him town, but yeah I'll give you this

Post#4= #10 on your ISO. How does asking me to not call you TLing contribute to the game?

Because I had nothing to say about anything else

[TheLonging]

Ok. Time to explain my actions this game, and find the opportunistic scum who switched from any TL/NS wagons to mine.Scumscumscum.

First of all, I did not wagonhop with EXE. I suggested putting someone at L-2 for fun. I then hopped on the biggest wagon, followed by EXE, creating L-3. At this point, NS hopped off, which gave me my first connection - NS and TL are linked.

if you play for more this game, I expect you to do this to every single goddamn wagon. And I want to see how accurate this is. It isn't, seeing as how you've only played for 2 months though, I give you some leeway thinking this way.

Uprising: Yes

TL's vote on me is OMGUS for suggesting we wagon him to L-2. Horrible reason, but not neccessarily a scumtell (OMGUS IS NOT A SCUMTELL)

I understand this, it wasn't OMGUS though. It was wagon analysis, and considering I have played with Exe before/seem him play and know his playstyle, I was more likely to believe him to be town. Even if he was someone else, I'd still think his vote on me is part scum.

Try reading the thread.

If your not going to explain your reasoning for something, don't bother posting.

TL hadn't read the thread, obviously. I don't read threads for other people. You don't want to read, replace out please

Au contraire my friend, I had read the thread. You never explained it properly/at all. It also helps if you actually don't be a lazy ass and actually do shit, like posting things like this. You know, just because I'm hungry and engaged in a TV show, I don't yell at my mom to get me cereal. OK, bad analogy but my intention/point still stands.

I want to know: Where on your lists do I stand? Because you stand to make a buddying case for me/NS and mention me quite a bit but don't put me down. You don't do this for a lot of people, but I have my monthly ego quota to fulfill, and it gives me a better understanding of where you think I lie, as well as where other people lie.

I'm not necessarily for a lynch of Chesskid, I'm for the wagon on chesskid.

I want information not a mis-lynch.

I still think the TL/NS group is the better lynch, but when that wagon got derailed I felt it best to vote for you.

That is the lulziest thing I've read this game.

Rolefishing woo. I softclaimed a PR. Pretty sure that counts as town, Mr.

And you think scum aren't capable of fakesoftclaiming a PR?

My play is not horrible. Fuck you.

Your play isn't horrible, it's the tone (in this post).

You remind me of someone who keeps his brain in a bucket

Oh nevermind it wasn't just the previous post.

I am voting Tasky for wagon jumping (and the timing of the vote), his laziness to explain reading, his attitude seems like a really bad attempt at being genuinely defensive, and the fact that he tries to draw a link to me and NS, despite the fact that it's not even the fact that what NS did was not close to buddying; it's a really cheap tactic to draw up reasoning to try and call me scum later on.

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@TL so 3/12 posts don't have content? That’s 25% of your posts.

It's now more than 3/12. 3/16 or 3/17 maybe.

I am voting Tasky for wagon jumping (and the timing of the vote), his laziness to explain reading, his attitude seems like a really bad attempt at being genuinely defensive, and the fact that he tries to draw a link to me and NS, despite the fact that it's not even the fact that what NS did was not close to buddying; it's a really cheap tactic to draw up reasoning to try and call me scum later on.

wtf are you talking about?i

Go look at where Exe voted me and where chesskid voted me. He then links me to NS by saying NS hopped off the wagon, thus, we're connected somehow. You can also find that back there.

[TheLonging]

So you want to play Anti-town, along with NS? Very well.

[TheLonging]

#6

>mfw

[TheLonging]

Tasky, here's the problem; you don't want to reveal your reasons for voting, and yet you say you only have a feeling.

[TheLonging]

V/:A for the weekend on account of Marathon Weeked

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Hey what do you know, Cooldog was scum. This was not surprising at all.

[TheLonging]

goddammit, I meant town

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and I meant to say after chesskid is scum, but my brain is turned off for today

[TheLonging]

There will be 0 kills or 2 kills, if Cooldog is telling the truth/lying

[TheLonging]

One point must be addressed in wingless' plot:
The name of the game: Hospital Madness Mafia. This leads me to think that there is a stronger then average chance for a scum doc, only scum can know that... and your plan would be supper convenient if the scum did have a doc...

light fos: wingless

FoS: CooLDoG

[TheLonging]

Enigma is town. I do agree.

[TheLonging]

Read that quote again. Cooldog is trying to set up WIFOM and almost carries a tone like "Oh I don't really believe what I am saying", and then puts a light FoS on Wingless

[TheLonging]

Maybe my scumreads are off or completely inaccurate.

Oh, there's the n00b card again.

Except it's not

I don't know who I was voting, but fuck this, Moospiker is awesome at being scum. Misrepping is very good as well as disguising fluff as content that seems useful.

unvote
Vote: Moospiker

[TheLonging]

VOTE: TheLonging

cool story bro

[TheLonging]

It's not playing the noob card though. You must also misread posts a lot. It's not just Exe.

Hold on, let me dig up examples, maybe I can get one or two before I go off to an appointment.

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As in, show me how Uprising plays the noob card. She's not a noob to mafia at all, and that post isn't using the noob card.

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Moospiker's last post is exactly what I meant from fluff as content.

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Uprising has been far too used to IRC mafia, and I don't use meta to decide on town/scum players so meh.

Moospiker: This is true, but that post was flinging mud against 2 players based on...... ????

[TheLonging]

I had a gut feeling NS was town because he was like this in every other game he was in.

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Now that seems like a scum PR, hell maybe a good fakeclaim.

I still want to see you be lynched Mooscum.

[TheLonging]

How did I miss that Moo said you lurked? That's not good at all for Moo.

And BTW, NS has somewhat of a motive for his lulzy play. Moo just has scummy play and claims a role that'd work a lot better for scum.

[TheLonging]

I don't think lynching a claimed PR is a good idea right now.
Also, don't forget that even if a scum is faking to be a PR, he has to provide us with results. all those results are always very valuable information in one way or another.
therefore I think it is extremely hard to keep a fakeclaim up for the whole day
therefore even if a PR is fakeclaiming, delaying his kill is very valuable for us since we can make a better decision on who to kill, since mislynching a PR on day one is pretty disastrous for us.
additionally, delaying the lynch get's us much more information:
if we lynch scum now (unless we lynch CooLDoG), scum will get rid of the other informative role and we will have no information at all from both the roles. If however we lynch the same scum (with a higher hitting percentage) later, we will have gotten some nights worth of results, and if the mafia kills one PR, we will have an even easier task at spotting the lying scum.
and, don't forget, that there is the option that there is no fakeclaiming scum. I think we should absolutely not underestimate this possibility. Just because it is unlikely that three claims turn out to be three PR's, it doesn't mean it is impossible.

This all relies on the fact that there is 1 scumteam and that he can't use his abilities. It doesn't even HAVE to be a fakeclaim; it could be a real scum PM changed around a bit to make it SEEM town.

[TheLonging]

yeah read the whole thread, see, I provided reasoning for sticking with chesskid. and you don't but you know how amazing context is? it helps when trying to mudsling.

[TheLonging]

continue reading.

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It'd help if you explain why I'm a scumread, considering the last time you did that was quite a while

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I already posted about the misrep the new dude did. That may very well have been an accident, because the rest of his stuff is good.

While he still very well may be scum, he is at the very least very willing to bus, so we aren't getting him today.

This is the most mind-boggling thing I have read and I want you to explain it.

[TheLonging]

CHARNEL'S ROLE IS MORE LIKELY A SCUM ROLE THAN NS'S.

THE INVERSE IS TRUE IF CHARNEL IS TOWN, BUT THAT'S NOT LIKELY.

[TheLonging]

CHARNEL'S ROLE IS MORE LIKELY A SCUM ROLE THAN NS'S.

THE INVERSE IS TRUE IF CHARNEL IS TOWN, BUT THAT'S NOT LIKELY.

NS IS MORE LIKELY SCUM THEN CHARNEL.

scumhunt, and do not pr-hunt.

But I did scumhunt, and I do believe you are scum, more likely than NS. I also believe chesskid can still be scum.

@TL, so you would be willing to lynch someone on day 1 because his role claim might be slightly more scummy then another guys, even though his play is town. Did I say that correct?

Except Charnel's play isn't exactly town, even ignoring Moo's play. You're right except for that last part, where replace town with scummy

And if by lurking, you mean I was grounded, then yes I was lurkinng.

[TheLonging]

way to ignore my case. bad scum.

I did read your case, and there's pretty much nothing to respond to. Because I have responded to a lot of these before.

[TheLonging]

BTW, scum is Charnel, chess, and... to be honest I couldn't say who else. I guess Exe but that's not a solid suspicion.

[TheLonging]

A significant portion of my case is based on you flip-flopping repeatedly/ denying buddying and then actually buddying.
Humour me, post a defense.

OK, your case is formatted confusingly imo. Hard to read. So, can you specifically point out buddying instances?

[TheLonging]

The case is formatted confusingly and it's hard to find specific instances.

[TheLonging]

IF YOU POINT OUT BUDDYING INSTANCES, INS READ OF ME HAVING TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE POINT IN YOUR CASE BECAUSE IT'S MUDDY/DISORGANIZED AS HELL, I WILL DEFEND MYSELF AND TELL YOU WHAT i DIDN'T DO/WHAT I DID DO. I'll claim though, and leave my suspicions; Athelete, Patient. So a fancy term for VT.

Charnel, chesskid, Exe/Uprising (out of those two, I'm more sure on Uprising, barely)

hey, if you want to make an avatar bet chesskid, I'll be more than happy to make one. I even have a cute avatar I picked out just for you

[TheLonging]

chesskid

avatar bet, right here, right now

I will 100% swear on my avatar + sig I am not scum

I have this cute little girly avatar for you when you're proven wrong btw.

[TheLonging]

TheLonging

, you are the

Athlete, Patient

.

You have no special powers.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm via PM with a paraphrase of your role's abilities.

[TheLonging]

If I am scum, you can pick a ridiculous/demeaning avatar for me to use, and if I am town, I pick one for you. And it's to show you're 100% confident in this lynch, that there's ZERO chance of me being town. You seem pretty sure on it, so I decided to see if you would take up my offer. After all, surely you won't lose right?

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"If you are town, it's your incredibly scummy play that got you lynched, and I accept no blame whatsoever for the misslynch."

Despite that this game is the only game where my play has been called scummy when I've used this in other games to success.

So why is it

this game only

"I believe you are scum, however, as evidenced by voting for you and pushing for your lynch."

This makes no sense, explain? I am scum because you vote me and push my lynch?

[TheLonging]

I said on my avatar and sig. And besides, avatar bets are common.

Oh and for the record, I can not find any instances of buddying. At all.

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It's also a sign of their position, or how strong they believe in the lynch.

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ISO 33 + 34 btw, I use meta as a stepping stone UNLESS it's so severe that it trumps everything else (see, shotty) and NS falls into that, mostly. the other reason why I thought he was town was because nothing he did made sense as scum, especially combined with his claim

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Also don't misrep me, The TL lynch is a scum lynch AND an information lynch. It clears NS, and we lynch scum. DOUBLE WHAMMY

he says this while misrepping a lot of my case which I already addressed (the "buddying", contradictions), which he just ignores while slapping his cock around calling me scum.

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Nevermind. TL needs to die today, Uprising living another day is not a problem.

Look how many people offered to hammer TL, and nobody did. Something's up here.

and you said nobody should hammer a page ago[/b[

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@TL: In the past few days as your lynch has been hanging at L-1, do you still feel the same way about your scumreads? This answer is important to me.

I still find chesskid scum.

I still find Charnel scum, but mostly because of what moospiker has done now as opposed to moospiker's play + his play in general, seeing as how he's now actually using logic.

I still find NS VI, but would I be surprised if he was scum? No, he'd just be VIscum, and that's the problem with reading someone

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@TL, why is Charnel so scummy as to say that he is one of your top scummy players? And elaborate a bit on Chesskid’s scummy ness, I get a null from him…

For one, all of moospiker's play, and when he first came in, his catch-up play just seemed like a weak attempt to look town by going along with popular opinion, he's changed a bit from this though so he's dropped a bit.

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Well for one, he's misrepped me on his whole "case", and he's made up shit (buddying, contradictions) to try and get a lynch on me. That and he himself has contradicted himself a couple of times (especially on NS)

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TL, maybe I would changed my vote to Uprising if you actually made an effort to defend yourself. You read as scum resigned to getting lynched. You never actually defended yourself, as you claim. Rather, you said my case made no sense, and that was all you said.

Because your case doesn't make sense. Your "contradiction" claims make no sense, and neither do your buddying claims because THEY ARE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

TL, Charnel isn't scum. Do you intend to leave your vote there?

Yes.

[TheLonging]

I am defending myself, you're ignoring it to try and convince yourself I didn't defend yourself.

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also who else notices how all of the sudden there's a push for a switch to Uprising, and I'm being accused by (TL/Tasky/Uprising) for sticking with TL?
Someone hammer already, we're just wasting time here.

This proves what now? Also Tasky still has his vote on me

[TheLonging]

That proves that you're the far better lynch than Uprising. Also nobody is voting me.

Actually not really, considering you said yourself people want to lynch Uprising.

EDIT: Dammit I was hammered. Go town! (HOLY SHIT I AM TOWN CHESSKID IS FUCKING SURPRISED I BET HE'S SHOCKED SOMEONE CALL 911 HE CAN'T HANDLE THIS SLKDJFHASLEKJTHWO RTYBWOIUERHTUEWKRTHRWETJLK)

[TheLonging]

If you don't actually have a heart attack IRL from the flip, I will be genuinely surprised. But I guess that's what tunneling + ignoring my defenses will do to someone.

[TheLonging]

is it safe to come out yet?

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let me post this here since I have to leave for a bit and I can't F5 enough:

"chesskid is the worst non-VI I have ever seen. He is arrogant, a douchebag, refuses to listen to people, has a big ego, double standards himself (I don't get an avatar bet but Charnel does), is a horrible scum catcher (only reason he caught Charnel is because he was so obvious, I even pointed this out AND NO ONE LISTENED), he formed a case on me that pretty much applied to some of the other players and even himself a few times (but of course he tunnels hard-fucking-core), and he only wants to see things his way. I will refuse to play with him again because his play is atrocious. Just 100% horrible.

In addition, everyone now has said Charnel was scum, and chesskid is only taking what everyone knew, and taking credit for it.

He is seriously horrible and egotistic.

yes I have to post it again, but that's because I fully expect chesskid to be reading this soon."

And BTW, dead QT was raging at you chesskid, for how bad you were playing. Scum were even hoping you'd fuck up SO bad to give them the win, they were just assuming. You're unfun (as bad as SocioPath), and I'll be damned if I play with you again.

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The fact that scum, the SK, and you were on the lynch?

No, nothing wrong about it at all! just that the points you used for me applied to other people in the game too! (And you of course.)

Oh, and you get to make an avatar bet but I can't. YOUR ROYAL MAJESTY

[TheLonging]

What resulted from my lynch? Yes, but the lynch itself? Atrocious. The same results would have been gotten basically from NS, and I had Charnel/Moospiker, and was one of the first to actually suspect them and stick with it. Why then didn't you go after them? Afraid I'd be right?

[TheLonging]

Also please tell me this game isn't indicative of how you usually play. Right?

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chesskid: Yes, because your play I have only seen coming from scum. I put you and moo/charnel together.

[TheLonging]

Well chesskid, as long as you don't actually play LIEK this in the rest of your games, it's understandable and I guess I can forgive you.

(hahahah, I made a mudkips joke... I'll go.)