Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[Ellibereth]

Oh he hid behind me.
Which is why I had the freakout thing when he said he hid behind camn.

[TheButtonmen]

@Elli:

mind explaining why MPR, Budja/Far_Cry/Nopoint and Kats are town?

Or even better maybe make a case and attack somebody?

@Mod:

MPR is AWOL again and Tants requested replacement.

Vote: Jenn

[jenniwren]

Pomegranate: In your ISO, I notice that all of your votes are cast based on someone else's argument other than your own. You say something like "I agree" and then vote. Now you're offering to lynch NPIAU if someone else can get a wagon going. Do you have any thoughts about him or Kats or anyone else that you could add?

Katsuki: What happened to Tans being scum? Also, the VC you posted is a nice IoA; care to explain how you reached your conclusion that I was scum other than the fact that I voted for you? You're piggybacking on MBF's post. In fact, all of your accusations have been at people who accuse/vote for you.

MPR: not only AWOL, but also has not contributed an original thought to the game at all.

Vote: Katsuki

[nopointinactingup]

Mike makes good posting. But I'm still seeing a clearer connection between Kats-Camn then Jenni-Camn.

@Mod: I request VLA till the end of this week. Family issues. Thanks.

[Pomegranate]

Pomegranate: In your ISO, I notice that all of your votes are cast based on someone else's argument other than your own. You say something like "I agree" and then vote. Now you're offering to lynch NPIAU if someone else can get a wagon going. Do you have any thoughts about him or Kats or anyone else that you could add?

The way I see it, there already is a small wagon on him.

I'll try to summarize my thoughts soon, but I have a large test tomorrow which requires a lot of studying.

[DrippingGoofball]

@Mod:

MPR is AWOL again and Tants requested replacement.

I'm on the case! Hiding behind the book case!

[MehPlusRawr]

Bleh, sorry, I'm really having no chance to post. Too much stuff is happening and this game requires a lot of

ketchup

catchup.

Replacing out. I apologize.

[DrippingGoofball]

After I get two replacements, a one-week deadline will be implemented.

[mikeburnfire]

Well, then we had better get cracking. I'm busy with lots of lots of lots of stuff, but I may have time this weekend to finish my re-read. As it stands, I believe we should make a yes/no lynch as preparation:
Players I am fine with voting for: jenniwren, Ellibereth, Pomegranate
Players I do not want to vote for today: MBF, camn (even if I think she's a bit scummy), TBM, Katsuki
If you want me to vote for anyone else, let me see the case.

[camn]

I'm ok with jenni, Katsu (even though she might be town) or nopoint.

I'm not ok with TBM, or Elli.

Everyone else I could easily be convinced. Show me a weak tell.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spyrex and his moonbeams are replacing tanstalas.

[SpyreX]

I FUNCTION

Poorly. I'll be catching up tonight/tomorrow but if someone wants to give me the secret skinny I'm down.

[DrippingGoofball]

Iecerint replaces MehPlusRawr.

DEADLINE: October 19, 11:00PM EST.

[mikeburnfire]

Hello replacement dudes. I'd give you a briefing, but I really don't know what's up myself. Katsuki is looking pretty lynchable, but I think she's town. Also, Vezok was lynched for a quickhammer, and turned out to be scum.

camn, why is Elli off-limits to you? Seems pretty lynchable to me.

[Ellibereth]

Uh hai.
I really should be more useful post PSAT...which is Thursday.
Jah.

Katsu is town for lying for whoever asked and I don't remember the rest.

[camn]

Elli, TBM and now Spyrex are three people I wouldn't want to see a really fast run-up and deadline lynch... which is kind of what would need to happen here. I want to be more confident on their scumminess, because if they are town, they can help us. If they are scum , I think we have days left to catch them. So it is more about their usefulness to ME as town allies being way greater than their threat to ME as scum opponents.

@ Spy: I have been pushing Katsu (probably too hard) as a utility lynch most of today. I still wouldn't mind seeing her dead.. but I THINK that Jenni's last post here
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p2566387
Is VERY VERY scum-desperation.. and I am getting a little perky about a jennilynch.
I also like i no-point flip just to see what kind of light that shines on the Buttonmen... but I am not married to it.

Incidentally, I wouldn't mind lynching MPR's replacement on the quickhammer alone. It worked with Vezo, after all. We will see how the rep fares, though.

TO SUM UP, this game has gotten pretty stale.. a lot of people playing pretty poorly.. and we need fresh blood. If you could summon a Player-by Player before deadline, that would be cool.. or I would be fine with a Katsu or Jenni lynch and you can give us your thoughts in the morning.

[jenniwren]

More like wanting to generate discussion about something...anything...at this point. No one is saying or doing much to talk about, which makes it hard to analyze what they are doing at all. The lurkiness and general inactivity which has plagued us since the beginning of the game is a huge demotivator. =\

Pom is posting in other threads, but has consistently not posted content in this thread, which makes me question her. She's also had a vote on Kats for most of the game, and she was also on the very easy Vezo wagon but hasn't provided much content at all. No one has really given her much attention, either, which also makes me curious. I mean, there have a been a few comments about her lurkiness, but nothing substantial.

Katsuki, why did you lie about the room thing? Why bring it up at all?

I think Katsuki or Pom would be my top two choices for a lynch. I would have said MPR, but his replacement should have a chance to do something.

[Iecerint]

HELLO GENTLEMEN.

I AM THE NEW MPR.

I WILL READ THE GAME AND FIND THE SCUM SOON.

[Pomegranate]

I think Katsuki or Pom would be my top two choices for a lynch.

Wait, so I'm pushing for my last buddy's lynch?

And I posted here yesterday, IIRC.

[camn]

Actually.. I would like to see what happens here:
Replacements.. this is L-1 if I count correctly....

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KATSUKI

What say you?
Especially you, Spyrex?

EVeryone else, tread softly, please.
I am especially interested in the reps.

[Iecerint]

Here's what I have as of the end of page 14. I'll finish the rest tomorrow :

TOWN
camn

Katsuki

Pom

SCUM
jenni
vezo
tanstalas

HMM
Budja
Katsuki

This list honestly wasn't edited much after sometime early D2 or so, but I kept note-taking.

As of end of page 5, I started taking notes:

1. camn looks town.

2. I thought Katsuki might be town for quickly voting vez without explanation in a way that might invite escalation,but reconsidered when he used 2SCUM4SCUM.

3. Jenni avoids calling vez scum, when he was (even considering his meta).

4. I thought tanstalas was scum for the Katsu bit, but now I doubt Katsu

5. Budja is scummy, but not with Tanstalas

From page 5:

6. Pom's point about jenni's "Conclusion" post is very good.

DAY 2 STARTS HERE

7. Clever vez-targeting. He's still obvscum for his play and that hammer, though. Dunno how I feel about tanstalas jumping to the (wrong and set-up) conclusion so quickly. Not a good sign, one way or the other.

8. Why the hell does FarCry like jenni? But it's not the kind of comment you'd make about your scumfriend OR scummy town, so idk. But then I guess she ultimately FoS's that slot, so.

9. Jenni 223 makes me want to hit my head against a wall. "VEZOZ WILL BE VEZOZ."

10. Far_Cry doesn't realize that town light sleepers give info and focuses instead on the town/mafia having the same roles angle. May be scum not feeling the need to analyze and geting caught up a little.

11. Elli's town list on 257 is bizarre for the most part.

12. So, MPR definitely shouldn't have lynched early, but I couldn't help cheering for him as I read it since I already knew the flip. And it wasn't really a "quickhammer;" I'd gotten tired of pages and pages of just WHERE IS VEZO, so.

DAY 3 STARTS HERE

13. Tanstalas sets up a 1-1 with Katsuki! Neat.

14. Katsuki...claims that she lied about the whole thing? I guess?

15. idk why FC is all LET'S BE CALM AND COLLECTED AND HUNT SCUM TOGETHER in her long post. Katsuki looks like the obvious lynch, and that's the ultimate conclusion of her exercise, anyway (in the form of an FoS).

Very sleepy, more tomorrow.

[TheButtonmen]

@Iec:

I'm not cool enough for your list?

More like wanting to generate discussion about something...anything...at this point. No one is saying or doing much to talk about, which makes it hard to analyze what they are doing at all. The lurkiness and general inactivity which has plagued us since the beginning of the game is a huge demotivator. =\

RAGE.

[Iecerint]

I didn't get strong enough feelings about you, no. To qualify for HMM, you have to be either conditional scum or conditional non-scum or formerly in another category.

Also maybe I will read the last half and get more of an opinion on you idk.

[SpyreX]

Still catching up (into day 2) but good lord:

Camn is town.
Elli is town.
Far_Cry is town.
MPR is town.

Kat is probably scum.
Pom is probably scum.

I'd guarantee one of those two being scum (with, thus far, a fair to middlin chance of both).

The lurkers (SEE MOST EVERYONE ELSE) better pick it up because good lord

[SpyreX]

And I replaced a drunk monkey that I would have lynched.