Mini 1063 - Pointlessville (Game Over!)

[Kitoari]

Did an ISO of parama and we're lynching him today. His posts absolutely reek of a scum trying to bank on early protown behavior, he changes his opinions faster than politicians receiving donations, and he's appealing to emotion like there's no tomorrow.

You remember that first point? It's time to pay the interest on your loan.
VOTE: Parama
So what happens if Parama is mafia? Well, if game continues Kage is going to be obv sk, so that'll be easy enough.
What if Parama is town? Sadly this could end up forcing a prisoner's dilemma if Kage is SK, unless I save correctly (a 1/5 chance). However, kage does seem town to me.

Kage: If parama flips town, please none. If you're a vig, you're doing the town a favor. If you're an sk, please don't force a prisoner's dilemma. That would be stupid.

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Parama

BTW, I am pretty sure it's impossible for Kage to be SK. Doctor + Universal Backup vs 3 mafia and a SK? If you think that's balanced you have some screws loose.
I hope that by lynching me you bastards will realize how blatantly obvious cruelty is as scum.
Also, I'd say Kitoari is scum except Universal Backup + Vig doesn't seem very balanced either, since Vig hardly affects balance IMO, so claim's probably true.

[Parama]

I was actually trying to add it up earlier if we could just town pact and lynch/vig everyone not in, but we had too many lurkers day one for it to really be effective, I think.
Town
Kage
Kit
Parama
Charter

for town, five other people alive. Lynch one, kill one tonight. Kit dies.
3 town 3 unknown.
tomorrow, lynch one, vig one, Kage dies.
Next day would probably leave you and me and the last scum.

I dunno, it could work, only thing I'm worried about is if there is a roleblocker who can block and kill. I don't think that should be allowed, but it's up to the mod. I guess it's not worth the chance to just blindly lynch people.

Man, I have half a mind to switch my vote to Cruelty since he seems more interesting in arguing for no reason than he does in finding the last scum.

LOL

Please vig Cruelty tonight. He's either scum or going to be a gigantic hindrance to the town if we didn't just win.

remember the dead

[Parama]

Like I said, us townies have already got this game won (though tbh I still wouldn't put the BP GF theory out of question in which case you better get your act straight tomorrow.)

Kage, please put a bullet through cruelty's head tonight.

[Kitoari]

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.
I'M ALSO NOT TAKING THE "I SELF VOTED I'M TOWN" BAIT.

We're lynching parama today. Lynch cruelty tomorrow if he flips town.

[Parama]

His posts absolutely reek of a scum trying to bank on early protown behavior

I caught 2 scum D1. I don't give a damn if you think it makes me mafia.

he changes his opinions faster than politicians receiving donations

Trying to find the last scum. Oddly enough it's come down to the two players I said we were lynching yesterday

and he's appealing to emotion like there's no tomorrow.

No, you're just a freaking moron who doesn't realize that I am not crazy enough to bus two buddies D1.
I am wondering though, if nopoint is really the final scum (unlikely) then I only voted for scum on D1. Fun thing to point out in the scenario that my reads are currently off

[PerArdua]

Parama putting himself at L-1 is strange and though I know it's WIFOM I cannot see how that move could possibly help scum. I could see it helping town by seeing who would put the hammer on him.

I don't like Kit directing the rest of the town.

[Parama]

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I'm over-WIFOMing the setup, it seems.
I WANT someone to hammer me.
And then, if (unshockingly) Kitoari survives the night, I want you to lynch him right up ASAP. Because his play in this game is honestly the scummiest.

[Parama]

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.

This is fun

[Kitoari]

I have stopped caring about your opinions. You voted yourself.

Then again, you voting yourself at L-1 as mafia is a blatant "play to win" violation. I will lynch cruelty instead on this basis. Kage, please vig parama tonight if cruelty flips town.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: cruelty

Ninja edit: also lol@missingthepoint

[Kitoari]

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOUR ALIGNMENT IS.
YOU DO NOT SELF VOTE IN AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW HOW CLEVER YOU ARE. YOU JUST LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

This is fun

ftfy

[Parama]

unvote, vote: cruelty

OPPORTUNISTIC QUICKHAMMER

Vig me tonight if cruelty flips town. Serious about this.

[Kitoari]

I was going to hammer cruelty when I noticed I forgot to close UNVOTE: buuuuuuut.

[PerArdua]

So cruelty is back at L-1 and we're back to where we were a page ago.

[Kitoari]

Oh so he's not technically lynched?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: cruelty

[Parama]

He wasn't at L-1 when you voted him anyways.
Also I'm pretty sure broken tags can be fixed by the mod and then counted :>

[PerArdua]

Well if he was scum then good on you Parama and bad on me. If town then I guess my reads will depend on who survives the night.

[Parama]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kitoari survives (assuming the game goes on, which is shouldn't unless we have a 4-man mafia team)

[Parama]

P.S. a 4 man scumteam is inherently imbalanced ina 12-player setup and wouldn't make it past the normal reviewers

[Kitoari]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kitoari survives (assuming the game goes on, which is shouldn't unless we have a 4-man mafia team)

Depends on whether scum wants to put me through doctor wifom or not.

But if that's the case what balances 3 mafia vs. Vig backup and Vigilante?

[Parama]

I literally just went over this. I'm saying you read as scummiest but I don't feel any reason to lynch you at this time.

P.S. it isn't balanced unless mafia is all goons, and even then it's still pretty bad

[KageLord]

Kage: If parama flips town, please none.

I realize that the situation has changed now, but I am wondering about this.

I'll assume you meant "please kill no one". In that case, I don't see the point in it. If I don't kill and scum kills someone, we have 4 people tomorrow. If we mislynch there, I have to pick the right answer between the 2 remaining at night or we lose (and not killing is autoloss too since it leaves a new day with 1-1). So basically here it is win or lose. If I shoot wrong tonight, we end up with 3 players tomorrow and the situation is win or draw. Your reasoning?

[Moospiker]

Day 3 Final Vote Count:

cruelty (4) - nopointinactingup, KageLord, Parama, Kitoari
Parama (1) - cruelty
nopointinactingup (1) - PerArdua

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Accusations fly back and forth in the town square. Everyone is unsure who to hang. They come to a decision...

cruelty,

Mafia Goon

, Lynched Day 3

Game Over! Town Wins!

I'm going to post my thoughts and so forth later, but I'm busy at the moment. Sorry for the wait for this post.

[charter]

Man, this was extremely painful to read day three. I seriously thought town was going to blow this.
First were the votes on Kitoari, when he was obviously town due to setup reasons, it makes no sense to have a backup who can only backup one role.
Then the wagon on Parama who was ridiculously town. Then his self vote, then people BELIEVING the self vote.
Day three should have been the first four people voting Cruelty.

Guess it doesn't matter much though, good work town.

[Parama]

Thanks a bunch for helping me lynch cruelty, Kit. My reads this game = amazing it seems.