Open 254 ~ Trust Issues (FvEvE) Game Ends

[chesskid3]

check his ISO. he softclaimed/breadcrumbed mason like 3 times

[a2rudeboy]

@Chesskid- do you think i directly outed singer? i believe she got lynched more because she correctly nailed scum two days in a row and led successful lynches against them. she was way too dangerous for scum to keep around.

[chesskid3]

Nah man nailing werewolf scum is what mafia scum want to do.

Btw you're confirming being last mason, right?

[a2rudeboy]

I'd like a massclaim first.

[a2rudeboy]

EBWOP- Also, saying that there are 3 masons in the game is not a softclaim/breadcrumb. That's the setup for f v e v e

[chesskid3]

f v e v e?
Also massclaim at this point amounts to us claiming mason/not mason?
Popcorn style?
I'll go first if you want.

[kunkstar7]

Quick Note: Massclaim is pointless right now as everyone will claim vanilla with the exception of the last mason. We could still massclaim if others would like, to see if one of the scum is idiotic enough to pull off a crazy claim/counterclaim. But overall a mason claim at this point is effectively neutralized as confirming anyone due to the case of a scum gambitting fake-mason and not being properly counterclaimed. So, I see no point to massclaiming, but will do so if the others want.

[chesskid3]

But like it's not like the last mason isn't going to die tonight anyway

[Lowell]

NOT a huge fan of chesskid's mason-fishing, or his over-the-top reaction to a mason dying.

[chesskid3]

Over the top? If a2rudeboy hadn't made it obvious who the masons were this would have been practically autowin.

[Sevei]

Kind of pointless to target the last mason now as the last mason is just a VT without the other masons.

[chesskid3]

last mason is a confirmed clear, though.

[Pomegranate]

I think tat it's unnecessary for the last mason to claim (today).

[Sevei]

The point is....why worry about who the mason is when scums are living?

[CSL]

Roll Call XIX

Muffin -1- chesskid3

Nonvoters -6- Sevei, Pomegranate, a2rudeboy, Muffin, Lowell, kunkstar7

Deadline is Saturday at 7:00pm EST. Currently, Muffin would be kicked out if deadline hit this instant

7 students in class, 4 expels.

[kunkstar7]

last mason is a confirmed clear, though.

Not entirely, but meh, just beating out technicalities.

Vote: chesskid.

With both of the Werewolves dead we are back again without connections. But chesskid's reaction to the mason death looks to me like a form of the jeeptell.

Antihero scum means Muffin scum.

Do you still hold this? Explain how Antihero connects with Muffin?

[Muffin]

Anyhow Muffin is sstill scum, because he called a case crap and still voted it => survivalist mentality => scum.

Please quote where this happened.

[chesskid3]

Is this the case on Antihero to which you keep making reference?

So...Antihero makes no mention of quadz and his scummy play, EVER. And only calls out Zed because he thinks he's only trying to divert the attention to the other growing wagon, completely disregarding the fact that plenty of other players agreed he was scummy (oh hey look, he flipped scum).

He also makes a big deal out of the whole me/Equinox thing, when in my opinion, forcibly not answering your own questions when one of them looks like fishing is scummy. To me, it felt like he was only trying to push a scummy issue on me, when other people even agreed it was suspicious. Hey, OMGUS? No, quoting people out of order, and not thinking that the order of the posts matter is scummy. You may have made a mistake, but then backtracking and saying it wouldn't have mattered anyway is BS.

He seems to by quite hypocritical with not wanting to read any WoTs, and then posting a couple of his own (doesn't matter if they're quotes, you admit that it's our responsibility to read them, so we will if you post them), as well as when he said he didn't admit he made a mistake, when he really did...and then admitted it was a mistake

again

.

Again, I still don't understand how he thinks quadz isn't scummy at the end of the day. He votes Zed...but doesn't give any reasons for doing so, other than "he's scummier." I feel like my wagon didn't take off, so he voted the only other wagon that wasn't his scum-buddy.

Well first things first, after rereading the game both full and with anti in iso I agree with your point that he never mentions quadz ever. However maybe he didn't think quadz' play was scummy? The fact that others thought quadz was scummy is irrelevant, and known as an Appeal to Majority. I'd like to hear from Antihero on this though.

I also feel that Antihero hasn't done much scumhunting at all throughout the game; most of his posts are just asking others for clarification which is classic "scum trying to look like they're contributing" play.

As for the equinox questions thing, I feel that that was a genuine misunderstanding, and hypocrite != scum.

Overall I'd say your case is pretty weak.

I thought you voted Antihero, but the bolded points are still a wonderful contradiction.

Questions for others:
What is a jeeptell?
How is being pissed that there are going to be no clears tomorrow a scumtell?
and How is the last mason not clear? If someone were to cc being the last mason, that would be super awesome.

[kunkstar7]

and How is the last mason not clear? If someone were to cc being the last mason, that would be super awesome.

If the last mason was not thinking enough to not counterclaim a fakeclaiming scum. But like I said, technicalities.

[chesskid3]

and How is the last mason not clear? If someone were to cc being the last mason, that would be super awesome.

If the last mason was not thinking enough to not counterclaim a fakeclaiming scum. But like I said, technicalities.

Well the point is rather moot, since a2rudeboy has as good as claimed mason + partner.
Also I was obviously not the only one to pick up on this, since singer died.

[Muffin]

I thought you voted Antihero, but the bolded points are still a wonderful contradiction.

Questions for others:
What is a jeeptell?
How is being pissed that there are going to be no clears tomorrow a scumtell?
and How is the last mason not clear? If someone were to cc being the last mason, that would be super awesome.

So either you deliberately mis-repped me or your aren't reading the thread properly. There are scum motivations for both, and town motivations for neither.

vote: chesskid

[chesskid3]

Smells like tunneling. Wonder why that is? Theories? Oh, right, because it is! Wheeeeeeeeeee

[Muffin]

Smells like tunneling. Wonder why that is? Theories? Oh, right, because it is! Wheeeeeeeeeee

I already made my case yesterday... so far you haven't done anything to change my mind.

[chesskid3]

Smells like tunneling. Wonder why that is? Theories? Oh, right, because it is! Wheeeeeeeeeee

I already made my case yesterday... so far you haven't done anything to change my mind.

Yup, it was tunneling yesterday too.

[Muffin]

Hammer obvscum please. He all but claimed it yesterday anyways.