Mini 1069 - Hospital Madness Mafia (Game Over!)

[chesskid3]

There will be 0 kills or 2 kills, if Cooldog is telling the truth/lying

You completely neglect the possibility of. A successful doc protect which is why it is necessary for chessscum to quote his role pm.

Thanks chessscum! Muchly appreciated.

Noted for rolefishing and ignoring case against you.

[Slaxx]

There's no reason for chess to claim unless he gets to L-1...again. Or did I miss something and he did claim and now you want confirmation by quoting the role PM? And if we are allowed to quote role PMs then scum got fakeclaims and if they got fakeclaims quoting role pms are useless.

I feel like I am missing something here.

[chesskid3]

I did not claim, and I will not be claiming unless I am legitimately at L-1 from a TOWN wagon.

[Slaxx]

Good, I didn't have a reading comprehension fail.

Enigma, no. We're not making Chess claim unless he gets to L-1 again. And that's that.

[Enigma]

Also we are in a hospital, I'm sure there's a doctor loololol (MORE WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM)

As far I'm concerned you claimed doc. I would like the role pm for clarification please.

Slaxx needs to double check his reading comprehension.

Thanks for your cooperation chessscum.

[chesskid3]

Also we are in a hospital, I'm sure there's a doctor loololol (MORE WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM)

As far I'm concerned you claimed doc. I would like the role pm for clarification please.

Slaxx needs to double check his reading comprehension.

Thanks for your cooperation chessscum.

Nope. Cease fishing.

[Slaxx]

Enigma. What. The. Hell.

[Slaxx]

In a DOCTOR THEMED GAME he could be zillions of types of doc. Now cut it out. And if he really is town, and he is more than just doc, all that his claiming will help do is help scum choose their night kill.

[Uprising]

In a DOCTOR THEMED GAME he could be zillions of types of doc. Now cut it out. And if he really is town, and he is more than just doc, all that his claiming will help do is help scum choose their night kill.

EXACTLY!


Enigma, you dork. Slaxx is very right. Don't make him claim.
Not d1, at least.

[CooLDoG]

There will be 0 kills or 2 kills, if Cooldog is telling the truth/lying

What happens if I don't kill? then there will be only 1 dead. Also note the title of the game: Hospital

Madness

Mafia. Don't rule out the possibility of an extra killing role.

@eni
What the hell? Don't make him claim when he's not at l-1. We should have forced a claim when he was near a lynch but no one wanted too.

@slaxx=correct:

In a DOCTOR THEMED GAME he could be zillions of types of doc. Now cut it out. And if he really is town, and he is more than just doc, all that his claiming will help do is help scum choose their night kill.

This post is a very good assumption, however we all know about assumptions....

[chesskid3]

Meh

Unvote

Because being obstinate about rolefishing is not something scum would do, I see it as a towntell.

Vote: Moospiker

Cease active lurking, sir.

[CooLDoG]

@moospike, your thoguhts?

@mod, prod moo...

[Parama]

Prodding Moospiker

Mod Note: I only have my prod table on one computer so excuse me if I prod a little late sometimes

[Moospiker]

Okay guys, just got back to this game...

I don't agree with the CoolDog wagon. Formed, and collapsed, too fast and I find nothing that stands out as scummy.

All guys talking to/voting me... what do you want answers for? My vote on chesskid was valid, with reasoning. If you're too lazy to look back, it's because he claimed to be out of the RVS then continued voting in a way which felt random and wishy-washy. It is one of the more solid points against chesskid. I'd like to know what you think of this...

Wow. Look at Posts 53-55. Wingless wants information from NS and votes him. Exe repeats Wingless and votes NS. chesskid blindly wagons DESPITE earlier stating...

Ho ho ho this RVS sure ended fast.

NS - Why is someone being at L-3 disconcerting?

Vote: chesskid3

I really do not undertand chesskid. I am suspicious of him. He doesn't have cruelty which is town, and tries not to seriously attack anyone to keep his opportunity to attack another person instead which is scummy in my eyes. He doesn't really posting content. I need explanations chesskid.

Unvote
Vote: chesskid3

I feel this was a simple wagon hop. It has standard reasons with no real conviction.

If someone can give me reasons also why CoolDog was brought to L-1 other than 'Read the thread' that would be great.

[Wingless]

Ok so here's what has happened.
Cooldog could very easily be an SK trying to explain any future kills.
He could also be scum trying to explain his kills, but that is irrelevant as you will see.

The real issue here is that if Cooldog plays as a smart townie, he should not be using his ability. It's too huge of a risk, especially in the sense of what a doc's entire purpose is. If he accidentally kills the person, he's made things worse.
So the problem with this claim is that either way we should still end up with only 1 kill and he will be able to say "I didn't use it."

As such, I still find this to be a pretty strong scum-claim. I'm still in favor of a cooldog lynch, but it seems that we have a group of very fickle players here. I'd rather not have any more claims (or at least, only 1 more if people absolutely won't lynch Cooldog).
If not Cooldog, NS is still a very strong scum-read for me. My vote stays for now though.

Prevedit: Hello again Slaxx.

Why shouldn't he use his ability? He can be something like a vigilante! Town must kill to eliminate scum. This is the only way, just the method changes.
CoolDog, if there will be no heart-attacked bodies, you die.

[Wingless]

I am willing to kill if it will prove that I'm town, however, I don't think it is very smart for me to kill/save on n-1. We/I simply don't have enough info to make an informed kill.

You will kill. Even an uninformed kill is a treasure to the town.

I have a suggestion:
If the person, who gets the 2nd highest vote count today, won't be killed tonight, we'll lynch CoolDog. This way we have a slightly informed kill.

[Wingless]

This happens too when we have only 1 corpse.

[Moospiker]

I have a suggestion:
If the person, who gets the 2nd highest vote count today, won't be killed tonight, we'll lynch CoolDog. This way we have a slightly informed kill.

What if the scum have a roleblocker? They block CoolDog then immeadiately follow this strategy. It's not viable.

[Wingless]

Enigma is suspicious. Why have you voted Uprising? I see her a bit indefinite but nothing else. There were more scummy persons at all time in the game. Why didn't you vote them? Why did you tunnel

[Wingless]

I have a suggestion:
If the person, who gets the 2nd highest vote count today, won't be killed tonight, we'll lynch CoolDog. This way we have a slightly informed kill.

What if the scum have a roleblocker? They block CoolDog then immeadiately follow this strategy. It's not viable.

I failed to vote.

Vote: Enigma

Moospiker, here is my answer:
If the mafia has a roleblocker, they can block CoolDog if we do not say who he has to kill, and our strategy fails.
My strategy is better in that case that they don't have a roleblocker, but in case they have, it is as bad as any other strategy that forces CoolDog to kill.
So my strategy is good. A mafia doc is unlikely because it's rare but who knows?:D

[Slaxx]

I like Wingless's idea. I think.

[Parama]

Day 1 Vote Count #10

[2] chesskid3

- TheLonging, Moospiker

[2] CooLDoG

- Nobody Special, Exe

[2] Moospiker

- Slaxx, chesskid3

[1] Uprising

- Enigma

[1] Tasky

- Zang

[1] Nobody Special

- CooLDoG

[1] Enigma

- Wingless

[0] TheLonging

-

[0] Wingless

-

[0] Zang

-

[0] Exe

-

[0] Slaxx

-

Not Voting (2): Tasky, Uprising

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 10/31/10 at 9 AM CST.

[CooLDoG]

I will agree to what wingless asks, however, the scum could influence my kill by all hopping on one player. I DO NOT agree that a town vig should kill for the sake of killing alone. That is a good way to get to lylo in 2-3 less days... One point must be addressed in wingless' plot:
The name of the game: Hospital Madness Mafia. This leads me to think that there is a stronger then average chance for a scum doc, only scum can know that... and your plan would be supper convenient if the scum did have a doc...

light fos: wingless

. I suggest you guys re-read my role pm, it doesn't matter who I kill, they will still have a heart attack.

I don't think moo is scum per say, he's just a lurking (which is anti-town), I think NS is a much better vote for d-1.

[Zang]

I'm just to lazy to read the thread thoroughly. I have just a feeling on CooLDoG, but it is a strong feeling. I feel he is scummy. if you agree with me, you vote him. otherwise you don't. don't see the problem there. It's just that personally I think the best place for my vote is him. Nobody can tell what I should or shouldn't do.

I like playing like this at the beginning of games (usually [beginning]=[day 1 + half day 2]), if you don't like it, it's your problem, not mine.

This is very anti town, it would be better for you to do nothing than to do this. You should have also said this with your original vote and when we asked for your reasoning. However, it is not scummy so

Unvote

He's not lying. He claims a killer role, and killer roles usually kill so we'll see only 1 head-shot corpse but nothing else. He even tells us the flavor text that will appear if he kills. He can't know if there is a role or not with this flavor text.

Unless he targets the same person as another killing role or a doc protects his target.

You completely neglect the possibility of. A successful doc protect which is why it is necessary for chessscum to quote his role pm.

If you think chesskid is scum, why aren't you voting for him? And why do you think chesskid is scum? Previously you where saying that chesskid is town.

I see zero non circumstantial evidence as to why everyone is voting chesskid...

Vote: Enigma

[Uprising]

VOTE: Enigma


Now that I've reread, I'm feeling him scum moreso than before. The tunneling isn't too kind, either.