Open 258 --- Night Watch --- Game Over

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: CKD

andrew, I think I now know why some people are in favor of policy lynching.

anti and all
HE IS COMEFIRMED SCUM(HOP)

Why aren't you taking into consideration that Andrew might be lying?

um, nameloc, andrew just admitted to lying

[nameloc1986]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: CKD

andrew, I think I now know why some people are in favor of policy lynching.

anti and all
HE IS COMEFIRMED SCUM(HOP)

Why aren't you taking into consideration that Andrew might be lying?

um, nameloc, andrew just admitted to lying

When? I totally missed that.

[Antihero]

When? I totally missed that.

O WHAT , HOW DO U KNOW I JUST CAUGHT HOP THE SCUM


2nd scum right there...
im so awesome

Oh, I misinterpreted this post. I thought andrew was admitting he really didn't get any results on hop and shotty knew too much.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hoponmyjoystick

[andrew94]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: CKD

andrew, I think I now know why some people are in favor of policy lynching.

anti and all
HE IS COMEFIRMED SCUM(HOP)

Why aren't you taking into consideration that Andrew might be lying?

Because although he is umb and fakes claims when pressured, he doesn't name claim out of no where.
And if we lynch Hop and he is town, then all that has to happed is we lynch andrew tommorow and it's worth it

this is incorrect.all i know that he is not a power role. he claimed power role. he said town dont gambit/lie and stuff. therefore he is mafiagoon. if hes townie, how is that my fault?
oppourtunistic shotty scum+ retarded hop combo might be possible

[PogoStick]

Andrew, not sure what you are trying to pull but you need to stop. I am a watcher

[ooBAZZoo]

Wow, sorry I haven't posted in a while, looks like alot has gone on in my absence.
I'll cover the most pertinent issue of Joystick now I guess.

Before his claim:
When reading through earlier I was getting a slight scumread on Joystick anyway. He posts alot, which isn't a scumtell in itself, but I feel his frequency of posts demostrates a defensiveness. Whenever an issue is raised, even slightly related to him, he posts in reaction to it. Whilst this may just be his playstyle, it could also be because he's playing on the back foot as scum.
Since his claim:
Since I haven't played with any of these players before (except for 2k3) I can't really say 'such and such fakeclaims' etc, and whilst I've spent some time trying to meta a few players, I don't see the meta argument as being as important as factor to consider as some people might. In other words, I'm trying to take this game at face value. Bearing this in mind, I have no strong reason to suspect that andrew is lying. Like somebody pointed out (I think it was Shotty), its not as though he's claimed a power role when forced at L-1. If he is fakeclaiming as scum, then he'll be dead by tomorrow, and I don't think even he's stupid enough to fakeclaim as VT when not pressured to do so (not only would it be very bad for town, but suicidal for Andrew).

As a result, I think Joystick is our D1 lynch. I'm not sure if he's at L-1 or not, but I'd be prepared to hammer. I think we should wait to get everyone's opinions on the matter first though.

@Everyone

- If you haven't already done so, could you give your thoughts on Joystick being lynched.

[PogoStick]

I typically post a ton regardless of my role

vote joystick

[nameloc1986]

.............wait........did you just hammer yourself?

[nameloc1986]

Nevermind he's only at L-2. Andrew's last vote was unnecessary because he already had his vote on Joystick.

VOTE: Joystick

Now he's at L-1!

[nameloc1986]

I'm not sure what he's trying to pull with self-voting. It may be that he's trying to change our minds by AtE. It could be a town or scum move by him. I'm still going with Andrew though, his confidence is saying a lot.

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

Vote Count #3

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
HopOnMyJoystick is the current wagon leader at L-1

HopOnMyJoystick (5):

andrew94, drmyshottyizsik, Antihero, HopOnMyJoystick, Nameloc1986,

Antihero (1):

2003041

nameloc (1):

Zdenek

drmyshottyizsik (1):

jasonT1983

not voting:

ooBAZZoo, curiouskarmadog, Dry-Fit

deadline is Thursday, November 4th, 7:00 EST

[PogoStick]

Was pretty sure I was L-1

unvote

nice fake reaction nameloc

[PogoStick]

And before anyone else asks, yes I realize self voting can be scummy but if town I'd gonna lynch a watcher on day 1 based on info from Andrew who fake claims roles all the time.

Also not sure if I beleive Andrew based on my results last night, somebody did visit shotty last night, didn't feel the need to say anything earlier cause clearly he is alive and hadn't thought of the possibility of Andrew fake claiming

Andrew is mad cause of another game and he's trying to take it out on me here, he was really pissed at me.

[nameloc1986]

And before anyone else asks, yes I realize self voting can be scummy but if town I'd gonna lynch a watcher on day 1 based on info from Andrew who fake claims roles all the time.

Also not sure if I beleive Andrew based on my results last night, somebody did visit shotty last night, didn't feel the need to say anything earlier cause clearly he is alive and hadn't thought of the possibility of Andrew fake claiming

Andrew is mad cause of another game and he's trying to take it out on me here, he was really pissed at me.

I'm sorry, this just seems like bullshit to me. What game is Andrew mad at you about?

[Antihero]

And before anyone else asks, yes I realize self voting can be scummy but if town I'd gonna lynch a watcher on day 1 based on info from Andrew who fake claims roles all the time.

Also not sure if I beleive Andrew based on my results last night, somebody did visit shotty last night, didn't feel the need to say anything earlier cause clearly he is alive and hadn't thought of the possibility of Andrew fake claiming

Andrew is mad cause of another game and he's trying to take it out on me here, he was really pissed at me.

Can we lynch this scum now?

[curiouskarmadog]

vote hop

, have no clue if andrew is lying or not, but no one countered..

[PogoStick]

And before anyone else asks, yes I realize self voting can be scummy but if town I'd gonna lynch a watcher on day 1 based on info from Andrew who fake claims roles all the time.

Also not sure if I beleive Andrew based on my results last night, somebody did visit shotty last night, didn't feel the need to say anything earlier cause clearly he is alive and hadn't thought of the possibility of Andrew fake claiming

Andrew is mad cause of another game and he's trying to take it out on me here, he was really pissed at me.

I'm sorry, this just seems like bullshit to me. What game is Andrew mad at you about?

The game is still ongoing for me, he was lynched. It's the newbie game

I don't expect anyone to beleive me cause I'm the target, but it is what it is, and why would real role cop counter and expose himself?

[PogoStick]

vote hop

, have no clue if andrew is lying or not, but no one countered..

If someone fake claimed your role on day 1, would you claim?

[andrew94]

ur self vote is full of scum trying to hammer himself to stop discussion


sus list:

jason
shotty
etc

[jasonT1981]

Reasons for suspicions please, Andrew. The etc makes me lol.

I would aree, the self vote is scummy... and like Andrew says could be a way of cutting off chat.

Andrew, now you have a role outted please don't think you can skate through the game making fluff posts liek above. Reasons for your suspicions please.. this is second time you have said you suspect me but failed to back it up with... well anything. The Etc ddoes not sit well with me... who is the etc?

[curiouskarmadog]

vote hop

, have no clue if andrew is lying or not, but no one countered..

If someone fake claimed your role on day 1, would you claim?

depends on the role....that particular one?..yes.

[Zdenek]

I'm willing to hammer.

I'd like to point out the above rolefishing conversation between Joystick and CKD and Joystick's reaction to CKD's vote on him:

Wow, isn't that interesting you show up and put me at L-1

I still do not feel this wagon on me is a good one, the reasons are iffy at best.

Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but it almost comes across as "Isn't it interesting that my scumbuddy is voting for me. Can't you guys tell I am being bussed."

[jasonT1981]

Id still like Andrew to answer my questions before we lynch JS... He is caught out, and should be lynched today.. but I would love Andrew to expain his suspicions first before the day ends. the more information we get or cases made on people the better for the town going into day 2. A hammer right now would be what scum would like to end discussion early. I am suire thats what JS thought he was doing. lets not give them that. At least not yet anyway.

[Antihero]

I'd like to point out the above rolefishing conversation between Joystick and CKD and Joystick's reaction to CKD's vote on him:

Wow, isn't that interesting you show up and put me at L-1

I still do not feel this wagon on me is a good one, the reasons are iffy at best.

Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but it almost comes across as "Isn't it interesting that my scumbuddy is voting for me. Can't you guys tell I am being bussed."

Yes, I think CKD's previous vote fits the bussing bill the best.

Hammer, please.

[PogoStick]

ur self vote is full of scum trying to hammer himself to stop discussion


sus list:

jason
shotty
etc

yet discussion continues