Open 258 --- Night Watch --- Game Over

[curiouskarmadog]

funny how so many people are having discussions about bussing WAY before a flip....

I am more sure than ever that my vote is in the right place.

[curiouskarmadog]

Zden and anti, I would like an answer to this before the hammer.

when/if Hop flips town...what is your stance on my vote...

[curiouskarmadog]

also,

unvote

I dont want someone to hammer, before these two answer this question today.

[jasonT1981]

funny how so many people are having discussions about bussing WAY before a flip....

I am more sure than ever that my vote is in the right place.

Part of me sees what JS did was a ploy to create WIFOM and make people think CKD is bussing, especially with the way he worded it almost making it seem like CKD is bussing... and the other part of me thinks he could actually be bussing. I say its about 50/50 in my gut right now.

EBYOP: I too would like Andrew to present cases on his suspicion before the hammer. We have scum, Im sure off it.. lets not cut off discussion though right away with the hammer as that would suit scum more.

[Antihero]

funny how so many people are having discussions about bussing WAY before a flip....

I am more sure than ever that my vote is in the right place.

Unless andrew is lying, which at this point I don't think he is, we should know how hop flips.

when/if Hop flips town...what is your stance on my vote...

Your play is still under the radarish.

[PogoStick]

funny how so many people are having discussions about bussing WAY before a flip....

I am more sure than ever that my vote is in the right place.

Part of me sees what JS did was a ploy to create WIFOM and make people think CKD is bussing, especially with the way he worded it almost making it seem like CKD is bussing... and the other part of me thinks he could actually be bussing. I say its about 50/50 in my gut right now.

EBYOP: I too would like Andrew to present cases on his suspicion before the hammer. We have scum, Im sure off it.. lets not cut off discussion though right away with the hammer as that would suit scum more.

How are you sure? You can't be cause I AM A FUCKING WATCHER

you are gonna put the rest of the town at a disadvantage if you lose me

I don't know what else I can do but insist nothing I have done is scummy, I wanted to lynch Andrew before he failed town, now he has claimed cop and found me to be lying, it's bullshit.

He has fakeclaimed cop without pressure before, I have never fake claimed a power role

all I did was listen to shotty who may be a troll, has been around and made sense so I re-voted Andrew. Now you follow him, and when I die and flip watcher your other watcher won't be able to come forward cause he has no protection. You guys need to think before following Andrew blindly, hell he was L-2 right before a few people hopped on me so he was sort of feeling pressure

lynch nameloc, ckd, or someone else and I'll try and prove myself worthy tomorrow

[curiouskarmadog]

you do have a point about andrew, guess I am just paranoid..

under the radarish?..have you checked my current games to see if I have "under the radarish" in all games, or are you just spouting out shit? sooo, if Hop DOES flip town, does your answer means I am still scummy?...and that is based on something you havent followed up on?

[drmyshottyizsik]

WE NEED TO LYNCH HOP NOW!
@Andrew I am giving you one chance to with draw your claim, and if you dont it's full on tunneling hop

[curiouskarmadog]

hop, if he is lying, then we know exactly who to lynch tomorrow....

and why exactly am I worth lynching tomorrow now?...you hadnt said shit about me, until others have thrown suspicion my way...I unvoted you after your claim, and only revoted you after andrew claimed (without a counter) and NOW I AM SCUM?..BULLSHIT! if you are town, get some points out there about why name and myself are worth lynching tomorrow....

fuck it,

vote Hop

.....dude is scummy

[curiouskarmadog]

also, anti, i just realized that you just replaced into another game that I was having issues posting in..

FoS Anti

...you should know that I have been busy without having to fact check much.

[PogoStick]

WE NEED TO LYNCH HOP NOW!
@Andrew I am giving you one chance to with draw your claim, and if you dont it's full on tunneling hop

really?

What I'm saying is true, Andrew is lying.

Nobody has any valid reason to vote me, you say I scum slipped but it was you who did it, not me

and pushing for watcher to be lynched is so bad

I AM WATCHER

[curiouskarmadog]

valid points?...someone has claimed (without a counter) that you are lying!

[PogoStick]

hop, if he is lying, then we know exactly who to lynch tomorrow....

and why exactly am I worth lynching tomorrow now?...you hadnt said shit about me, until others have thrown suspicion my way...I unvoted you after your claim, and only revoted you after andrew claimed (without a counter) and NOW I AM SCUM?..BULLSHIT! if you are town, get some points out there about why name and myself are worth lynching tomorrow....

fuck it,

vote Hop

.....dude is scummy

So town only needs one watcher?

[PogoStick]

valid points?...someone has claimed (without a counter) that you are lying!

So you suggest day 1 every power role counter when there is no doc?

[drmyshottyizsik]

no hop you are scummy as hell though

unvote

so i can ask this question.
Who did you watch and with what result?

[PogoStick]

valid points?...someone has claimed (without a counter) that you are lying!

Shall I out the person who visited shotty?

Don't think that would be good this early

[drmyshottyizsik]

who visitted me?
This will confirm you as scum or town

[jasonT1981]

Yea I agree, I think Andrew is telling truth now, especially with how your acting now adding appeals to emotion to your posts

How are you sure? You can't be cause I AM A FUCKING WATCHER

you are gonna put the rest of the town at a disadvantage if you lose me

Also, dont like this post

WE NEED TO LYNCH HOP NOW!
@Andrew I am giving you one chance to with draw your claim, and if you dont it's full on tunneling hop

giving an uncountered claim a chance to withdraw it? I also think, with your post here we are well past you full on tunnelling. as you are calling in caps for a LYNCH HOP NOW

[ooBAZZoo]

Zden and anti, I would like an answer to this before the hammer.

when/if Hop flips town...what is your stance on my vote...

I Know this wasn't directed at me, but I'd like some clarification on a few things.
Why do you say "when/if" Hop flips town, and not just "if"? (This has confused me slightly, you don't think Hop is town do you?)
Why do you say "my vote"? Your vote is on Joystick (at least I was at the time, right?), but so was a number of other people's, and there seemed to be a general consensus that he is "our" D1 lynch.
Why ask this of just Zden and Anti? (Anti's vote was also on Hop, and Zden said he's willing to hammer, so surely their "stance" is the same as yours anyway).
I think I've confused myself in my tired state, but I really don't understand why you've asked this question, nor why its worded as it is.

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lynch nameloc, ckd, or someone else and I'll try and prove myself worthy tomorrow

Unfortunately, with the setup we have, there's no real way for a watcher to "prove" themselves. You could easily lie about your night actions, and we'd be none the wiser as to whether to trust you or not.

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post-edit (or whatever)

Joystick, don't out another power role

[drmyshottyizsik]

Zden and anti, I would like an answer to this before the hammer.

when/if Hop flips town...what is your stance on my vote...

I Know this wasn't directed at me, but I'd like some clarification on a few things.
Why do you say "when/if" Hop flips town, and not just "if"? (This has confused me slightly, you don't think Hop is town do you?)
Why do you say "my vote"? Your vote is on Joystick (at least I was at the time, right?), but so was a number of other people's, and there seemed to be a general consensus that he is "our" D1 lynch.
Why ask this of just Zden and Anti? (Anti's vote was also on Hop, and Zden said he's willing to hammer, so surely their "stance" is the same as yours anyway).
I think I've confused myself in my tired state, but I really don't understand why you've asked this question, nor why its worded as it is.

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Pre-Edit sir. It means this is about what i saw in the preview screen when i was ninja'd.

Also yes I really think Hop need to claim who "visitted me"

lynch nameloc, ckd, or someone else and I'll try and prove myself worthy tomorrow

Unfortunately, with the setup we have, there's no real way for a watcher to "prove" themselves. You could easily lie about your night actions, and we'd be none the wiser as to whether to trust you or not.

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post-edit (or whatever)

Joystick, don't out another power role

[ooBAZZoo]

Shall I out the person who visited shotty?

Don't think that would be good this early

I agree; regardless of whether you are a watcher or scum, scum already know way too much about the Power roles.

who visitted me?
This will confirm you as scum or town

@Shotty - No it wont confirm anything, he could just lie. Don't put your own self-preservation before the town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Shall I out the person who visited shotty?

Don't think that would be good this early

I agree; regardless of whether you are a watcher or scum, scum already know way too much about the Power roles.

who visitted me?
This will confirm you as scum or town

@Shotty - No it wont confirm anything, he could just lie. Don't put your own self-preservation before the town.

This is not self preservation at all!!!!
First off one reason we need to know is so we can ask them to confirm or not.(Outing one PR is worth killing one of the scums). Secondly, I doubt, even if we all ask him too, that he will tell us

[Zdenek]

Zden and anti, I would like an answer to this before the hammer.

when/if Hop flips town...what is your stance on my vote...

If Hop flips town, then it means that my interpretation of his post that makes it seem like you are bussing is wrong. Aside from that, I am fine with your vote. On the other hand, Joystick flips scum, then I will definitely to consider what Jason said about Joystick trying to make it seem like bussing.

[ooBAZZoo]

I disagree. We'd be putting scum in a very advantageous position for their night kills, all to see whether Joystick is lying or not.
I think we should give andrew a chance to post. If he maintains that Joystick is scum, then we should lynch him without endangering any more PRs.

[ooBAZZoo]

EBWOP: I disagree with shotty, not Zdenek.