Mini 1069 - Hospital Madness Mafia (Game Over!)

[Uprising]

I don't think lynching a claimed PR is a good idea right now.
Also, don't forget that even if a scum is faking to be a PR, he has to provide us with results. all those results are always very valuable information in one way or another.
therefore I think it is extremely hard to keep a fakeclaim up for the whole day
therefore even if a PR is fakeclaiming, delaying his kill is very valuable for us since we can make a better decision on who to kill, since mislynching a PR on day one is pretty disastrous for us.
additionally, delaying the lynch get's us much more information:
if we lynch scum now (unless we lynch CooLDoG), scum will get rid of the other informative role and we will have no information at all from both the roles. If however we lynch the same scum (with a higher hitting percentage) later, we will have gotten some nights worth of results, and if the mafia kills one PR, we will have an even easier task at spotting the lying scum.
and, don't forget, that there is the option that there is no fakeclaiming scum. I think we should absolutely not underestimate this possibility. Just because it is unlikely that three claims turn out to be three PR's, it doesn't mean it is impossible.

I'm not entirely sure if I understand exactly what you're trying to say. I'm really sorry.

[chesskid3]

Well waiting for a replacement would be interesting, but unfair to the replacement because they'd likely get hammered :/

Btw if we have a detective or something they should check Exe, because my gut says he is scum

[Parama]

Looking for a Moospiker replacement.

Charnel replaces Moospiker. That was quick!

[CooLDoG]

I think it will be interesting to see what the replacement does... He basically has one post to avoid a hammer (test of skill if you ask me).

[Nobody Special]

....but no pressure.

[Charnel]

hi. I started skimming the thread. I was surprised that I saw my role pm in thread, but that this role hadn't been modkilled.

Mod, WTH?

Role PM quoting is allowed by rule 3.

I don't really feel like doing much for the game until I know that I am actually alive.


Oh, brilliant, I'm at L-1? LET ME KNOW WHEN I HAVE TO REPLACE IN AGAIN.

in case this isn't some big mistake, a few questions:

1. Do you want me to read the whole thread?
2. Are there any specific things you want to know from me?
3. Do you want me to read specific parts of the game?

[Charnel]

hi. I started skimming the thread. I was surprised that I saw my role pm in thread, but that this role hadn't been modkilled.

Mod, WTH?

Role PM quoting is allowed by rule 3.

Oh, kay...

Nope, don't agree with it. But anyway, that part you know. I'm a flavor cop/tracker. I think the tracking part is the more usefull, as nothing tells me what a certain role does.

[Charnel]

@moo/replacement, defend your lack of content.

Yeah, love this. I don't know moo. It's his problem. Am I being wagonned for inactivity? Because in that case, your problems are solved.

[CooLDoG]

No you are not being wagoned for inactivity, you are being wagoned for lack of content, different meaning...

[Charnel]

No you are not being wagoned for inactivity, you are being wagoned for lack of content, different meaning...

Solved too. Is there anything specific you want to know, or can I go through the whole thread?

[CooLDoG]

unvote

, go through the thread, I don't want a quick hammer coming in here before your done. However, let it be know that I still (figuratively) have my vote on you.

[Charnel]

unvote

, go through the thread, I don't want a quick hammer coming in here before your done. However, let it be know that I still (figuratively) have my vote on you.

You are going to pay back every hour of my life if you lynch me regardless of what I say.

[CooLDoG]

no, I am open-minded, no worries.

[Charnel]

Vote: TheLonging

For trying to lynch the mod.

see guys, this is why RVS is good

Vote: TheLonging

He knows why.

wat I do :<

Cooldog: It's IMPOSSIBLE to lynch the mod. If we get the majority of votes on him, none of it would count, and it's as if we never voted. It's not a bastard mod game, so he can't be lynched anyways. So I ask again: Why is RVS voting Parama bad?

I dislike this post. The RVS is made to pressure people into doing things. Voting the mod isn't helping and antitown. When people react on this, TheLonging reacts quasi innocent. The quasi part does it for me. He makes a joke of the accusations that are actually right.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheLonging
Biggest wagon

However, this is just as bad. Chess doesn't acknowledge the starting case on thelonging, but simply joins because he can. kid is a good choice for Longings buddy.

I'm going to be gone until Tuesday morning, and didn't want blood on my hands.

Also, we're still solidly in RVS. (I am, at least.)

@Mod: V/LA until Tuesday morning.

OUCH. NO. RVS was long over after what happened before. This post is actively making excuses to not participate in scumhunting. Chesskid looks better in this exchange

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheLonging
Biggest wagon

chesskid is scum, exe is town. Great to know we got 1 scum so far.

unvote
vote: chesskid3

And another interaction between TheLonging and Chesskid.

As scum, you have been given the names of your buddies. Human nature is to focus on them more. TheLonging had the choice to vote Exe and Chesskid on his wagon (both reasonless votes), but chose Chesskid. He proclaimed Exe was town. For what reason is completely beyond me.


If we compare this with CooLDoG's post, who has the same read on both Exe and chesskid, then this makes a lot more sense.





OKAY, page three, large shift off TheLonging to NS. Though NS is actively not participating, this is really a shame.

[chesskid3]

New guy can't read any better than old guy :/

[Nobody Special]

New guy can't read any better than old guy :/

Took the words right outta my mouth.

[CooLDoG]

no, you guys are just mad because he's beating up on you.

[Charnel]

UNVOTE: VOTE: CooLDoG
scum.

This is tasky's first post. And it sucks. He singled out the single most protown player, and voted him.

Oh My God, You Guys, Look At How You SUCK.

Okay, that's out of my system. (Also, it appears I have net access today; I thought all my net places were closed with the holiday, but, well.... not).

Since I've only played previously with a handfuil of y'all, I guess I should explain. My first RV

always

includes "{He|she|it} knows why." It's null, coming from me.

It's not my experience that wagons gather that much steam in the first page or two; and with my supposed net outage of today, I didn't want to contribute to a random lynch.

That said, I thnk HotDog is champing at the bit trying to pigeonhole me into posting during his best reading time. Screw that.

FoS: cOOldOg

I think TLing (I like that, it's short and cool) is a bit ... opportunistic about distancing from me. Trust me on this, if nothing else, he and I are NOT buddies in any sense.

and then this. I have no idea why NS didn't vote. I think he was a little concious about OMGUS voting, and thought OMGUS FoS-ing was better.

NOPE. This post is surprisingly empty again.

On re-reading:

unvote

Vote: chesskid

Evasiveness, fingerpointing (not the good kind, either), and just gut.

PrevEdit: Exe, umm. I shall look for these "points" you claim to have allegedly "made."

No, again. Nothing changed between these posts, but suddenly his gut points somewhere else.

Unvote. Vote: Nobody Special

What exactly are you afraid of? Why are you so nervous about lynching TL and why do you have to distance yourself from any accountability by claiming you're still in the RVS? The latter is a big red flag to me.

Oh. Yes, I can (I suppose) understand how you could think these "points" are worth addressing. To humour you, if nothing else:

1) I'm afraid of nothing. Stop projecting your mediocrity and fearfulness on me, plzkthx.

B.i) I wasn't nervous about lynching TLing (specifically); I was rather surprised the wagon gathered that much speed that quickly (as previously stated). Given my anticipated V/LA of today (the one that never materialized), I was loathe to leave my vote up while away.

B.ii) RVS lasts far longer than anyone ever acknowledges. I feel I am doing a Public Service by pointing this out as often as possible.

I'm starting to tunnel, so I;m going to take a short break after this. 1) is a plain insult. It's intention isn't scumhunting, but getting someone else to stop scumhunting by drawing them into a mudslinging contest. B.ii) is plain bad. RVS was VERY short in this game, and the only reason NS prolonged the RVS to do no scumhunting. Till this point, he hasn't done any scumhunting.

[chesskid3]

Concious of tunneling = scumtell.
Town go after scum with all they have, scum are worried about tunnelling a town.

Also new guy is cherrypicking quotes - the one from me on TL he convientely didn't quote the post RIGHT BEFORE it about running someone up to L-2 for fun.

Slot is scum.

[Charnel]

Also new guy is cherrypicking quotes - the one from me on TL he convientely didn't quote the post RIGHT BEFORE it about running someone up to L-2 for fun.

I don't consider this a reason. And I can't really quote the whole thread, can I?

[TheLonging]

yeah read the whole thread, see, I provided reasoning for sticking with chesskid. and you don't but you know how amazing context is? it helps when trying to mudsling.

[Charnel]

Concious of tunneling = scumtell.

...

Slot is scum.

It's so great to already know everybodies allignment. I don't, and I rather keep an open mind when reading. You, however, don't seem to have such thoughts. Tunneling someone into his lynch no matter what he posts is rather antitown. New posts should be able to change one's mind, and they will change mine. I have 15 pages to go.

[Charnel]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheLonging
Biggest wagon

chesskid is scum, exe is town. Great to know we got 1 scum so far.

unvote
vote: chesskid3

Can't find it.

[Charnel]

Wow. Look at Posts 53-55. Wingless wants information from NS and votes him. Exe repeats Wingless and votes NS. chesskid blindly wagons DESPITE earlier stating...

Ho ho ho this RVS sure ended fast.

NS - Why is someone being at L-3 disconcerting?

Vote: chesskid3

I really do not undertand chesskid. I am suspicious of him. He doesn't have cruelty which is town, and tries not to seriously attack anyone to keep his opportunity to attack another person instead which is scummy in my eyes. He doesn't really posting content. I need explanations chesskid.

Unvote
Vote: chesskid3

By this point, the chesskid wagon has already formed. With chesskid and exe having similar play, but chesskid being much more active, I really don't understand where this wagon is coming from. NS and Thelonging were so much better options.

Day 1 Vote Count #3

[4] chesskid3

- TheLonging, Moospiker, Nobody Special, Wingless

[2] Nobody Special

- Exe, chesskid3

[2] TheLonging

- Zang, CooLDoG

[1] Enigma

- Uprising

[1] CooLDoG

- Tasky

[0] Wingless

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[0] Tasky

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[0] Zang

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[0] Exe

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[0] Moospiker

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[0] bv310

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[0] Uprising

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Not Voting (2): Enigma, bv310

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 10/31/10 at 9 AM CST.

At least one townie, and most likely more on the chesskid wagon. But I'm pretty sure that there is scum there. The chesskid wagon really didn't make sense.

BV310 hasn't posted yet.
NS is hella scummy right now. Piggybacking on the Chesskid wagon to save his skin is obvious.
Chesskid wagon is pretty strong with 4 people, though I really don't see the merit in it. The late joiners to the wagon are weak as hell.

...

QFT.


Enigma provides some original material in post 85 => town.

Enigma seems to have a point with his Uprising vote, as this post is scummy. I bolded the statements that are really showing that.

@ Enigma, that first image was adorable.

I really don't know how I missed your post :$

The RVS doesn't make me nervous, I just have no idea what the S stands for.

I'm not participating because I really see no reason for me to.

@ CooLDoG
1. I really had no idea why we were putting people at L-2. I don't understand how it is beneficial.

I was just confused...

2. Is this question really directed at me?

3. I like seeing people posting and I know there was someone else who wasn't posting and I can't remember their name because of it.


UNVOTE:

First bolded: I know it is the RVS, but town would have to participate. You should want to find scum. Uprising seemed more concerned about avoiding pressure.
second: scum acts confused. Town tries to figure out.
and then the unvote. He didn't do anything! Purely a passive post.

[TheLonging]

continue reading.