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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:41 am

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End of Day scene forthcoming.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:44 am

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Roll Call XXIII (End of Day 3)

Muffin -2- chesskid3, Sevei
chesskid3 -4- kunkstar7, Muffin, a2rudeboy, Lowell


Nonvoters -2- Pomegranate, Lowell

Deadline is Saturday at 7:00pm EST. Currently, chesskid3 would be kicked out if deadline hit this instant

7 students in class, 4 expels.

TIME'S ALMOST UP!


Spirits are high for this third phase of the school day. chesskid seemed pretty bad for hurrying up last class. A select few of you tell him to go, and when he goes, all you could feel was dread.


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Night 3. Deadline's in two days.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:58 pm

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Feeling ashamed of yourself, you move on to your next class. Someone wasn't following the group, and he looked like he was in pain.

a2rudeboy had his eyes open in shock. Bruises marked his face. With haste, you order Sevei to transport him to the nurse.

Five of you remain. Three have good intentions, whilst two do not. Who will be next to forcibly leave the classroom?


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Day 4. You have 1 week to come up with a majority.

With 5 in class, 3 will boot a player.

PLEASE NOTE THAT ONCE A LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHED FROM THIS POINT ONWARD, DO NOT REVEAL THE OUTCOME IF THE GAME ENDS UNTIL I ANNOUNCE THE END OF DAY SCENE. THANK YOU!
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:54 pm

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HERP DERP LOOK AT THAT. CK WAS TOWN.

Not Town:
Kunkstar and Lowell.

Discuss.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:32 am

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LyLo now, is it not?

Time to do some iso reads.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:37 am

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Sevei wrote:HERP DERP LOOK AT THAT. CK WAS TOWN.

Not Town:
Kunkstar and Lowell.

Discuss.
A logical gap exists between your vote for muffin yesterday and your choice of scum for today.

I didn't see you petitioning strongly against CK's lynch yesterday either, just a quick one post "oh i dont think ck is scum". This actually tells of scum weakly trying to oppose a lynch they know will flip town in order to gain town cred later.

Top reads right now would be Sevei and Pom, I don't really believe chesskid's case had any weight, but I'll have to review it in light of his flip.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:44 am

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I have to think about this, but my top choice is probably Sevei. I ought to iso him. And I still need to think about who his partner might be...
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:58 am

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You wish.

Muffin was all up in CK's tailpipe yesterday, and his smarmy attitude and push on CK (who was getting more obv-town as the day went on) was worth a vote.

You on the other hand have been sneaking by with all kinds of sneaky scum stuffs. Like, the subtle little chainsaw defense of Lowell you have going on there. Your attacks on Zed/CK early in the game could be intended to defend your buddy, or to defend someone who would eventually flip town, and either way, there exist OODLES of scum-intent in your defense of him.

Oh and, saying Zed was scummy for OMGUS when you have done the same thing with me? Nice.

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:02 am

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Sevei wrote:Oh and, saying Zed was scummy for OMGUS when you have done the same thing with me? Nice.

Pom. Sevei is female.
How is it OMGUS if you think that Lowell and kunk are scum, but you didn't mention me as being 'not town'?

Oh, and sorry about that.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:03 am

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Oh, I was talking to Kunkstar, not you. Sorry! :oops:
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:15 am

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Sevei wrote:Muffin was all up in CK's tailpipe yesterday, and his smarmy attitude and push on CK (who was getting more obv-town as the day went on) was worth a vote.
*shrug* I was wrong, what more can I say? That's how I play: I pick my strongest scum read and keep hammering them until they're lynched.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:11 am

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@Sevei, its not OMGUS its product of elimination. Players left:

Lowell
muffin
Pom
Sevei
myself

I don't think I am scum (obv.)
I don't think Lowell is scum. I've played with him a few times and he seems similar to those instances. His early play when I joined in seemed townish (haven't seen much of him lately, but it fits his playstyle rather than striking me as something surprisingly scummy. Not scum in my view.
I don't think muffin is likely scum due to the fact that I did not see any logical case from chesskid that explained his insistence for a lynch on muffin. So I do not have a case on muffin.

Therefore that leaves two players left, Pom and yourself. Two scum left, two players left.

I did not consider you scum because you chose me as scum, you may have very well chosen me for the same reason I chose you as top scum, yet you have not said your reasoning that states this, and you have yet to explain the discrepancy between your muffin vote yesterday and your top suspects today. If muffin was worth the vote today, then what makes him not worth it today? In fact, the way you stated your top suspects (with the exclusion of any reasoning and the discuss statement that follows) reads to me as someone hoping a tossed out idea will be caught up and made into a case for you.

Regarding the chainsaw defense, even the creator of that tell admits it holds no weight until a scum flips. Lowell's stance made sense and fit with my own read of zed then (which is a little bit of confirmation bias I admit), therefore it makes sense to support it.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:36 pm

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kunkstar7 wrote:I did not consider you scum because you chose me as scum, you may have very well chosen me for the same reason I chose you as top scum, yet
you have not said your reasoning that states this
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you have yet to explain the discrepancy between your muffin vote yesterday and your top suspects today
. If muffin was worth the vote today, then what makes him not worth it today? In fact, the way you stated your top suspects (with the exclusion of any reasoning and the discuss statement that follows) reads to me as someone hoping a tossed out idea will be caught up and made into a case for you.

Regarding the chainsaw defense, even the creator of that tell admits it holds no weight until a scum flips. Lowell's stance made sense and fit with my own read of zed then (which is a little bit of confirmation bias I admit), therefore it makes sense to support it.
Sevei wrote:You wish.

Muffin was all up in CK's tailpipe yesterday, and his smarmy attitude and push on CK (who was getting more obv-town as the day went on) was worth a vote.


You on the other hand have been sneaking by with all kinds of sneaky scum stuffs.
Like, the subtle little chainsaw defense of Lowell you have going on there. Your attacks on Zed/CK early in the game could be intended to defend your buddy, or to defend someone who would eventually flip town, and either way, there exist OODLES of scum-intent in your defense of him.

Oh and, saying Zed was scummy for OMGUS when you have done the same thing with me? Nice.

You spent a good portion of your first several posts defending Lowell and attacking Zed specifically for her attack on Lowell. Motivation is likely scum, as you would know how both flips would play out, so he could be your buddy, or he could be town that you were buddying.

You attacked Zed for questioning Lowell and said it was OMGUS, and, gasp, you jumped on me right after I accused you. Earlier in the game you were agreeing with me, but when I accuse you, you suddenly find a reason to call me scum? TSK. TSK.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:18 pm

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So far my only reasoning to call you scum has been that elimination based on reads, therefore it isn't even substantiated enough to vote on. Your reaction to my response is seeming overblown.

Unfortunately you are missing the clear distinction that validates my read rather making it OMGUS. OMGUS implies that the vote or read is based solely on an emotional response to an accusation leveled against the player. This is clearly not the case as I have stated perfectly logical and clear reasoning as to why you made it onto my list of scum and have included no emotional bias or action against yourself.

The point I am looking for regarding muffin is the distinct lack of muffin in either of your top reads, not solely myself. If muffin was high enough on your reads to vote yesterday, why do all of a sudden to entirely separate players surpass this?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:24 pm

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Hey wow, sevei was right about chesskid. She's totally town!!!

My gut is that it's sevei and kunk, that they'll "bus" each other, but thankfully list pairs so that we'll settle on Pom or myself as a "compromise." At least one of those is fail.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:03 pm

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Kunkstar:
OMGUS may technically be all that you say, but it's also (more loosely) defined or used to describe a reaction that involves attacking your attacker to discredit them and get attention off of one's self.

Anyway, I changed my mind about Muffin when I reread everything and decided you were much more likely to be scum.

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My role PM says your gut is full of....craplogic.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:42 am

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Sevei wrote: Lowell:
My role PM says your gut is full of....craplogic.
Heh, classic.

No but seriously I'm usually right about these things.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:12 am

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Mayhap you are, mayhap you ain't, but this time, you are definitely wrong.

Anyway...
Kunkstar's ISOs 0,1-2, 4, and 6 are all about defending Lowell. Seriously. Lowell's a big boy; he can defend himself, right?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:02 am

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I hadn't noticed that. But if anything that says more about Kunk than me, no?

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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:57 pm

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Remember that I can move the deadline towards us if this lack of activity doesn't pick up a bit.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:40 am

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If I have to prod
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:54 am

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I'll be able to post later tonight. Was holding off responding in anticipation of Kunkstar responding to the latest few posts about him.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:55 am

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WARNING:
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:42 pm

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Regarding the OMGUS, you can't redefine a term more loosely to make it fit your specifications.

You may view it as defending Lowell, simply put in my mind Lowell's points towards zed said what I felt and zed had some suspicious stances and comments towards players, it just happened they were mostly in regards to antihero and Lowell.

@muffin: What are the results of your iso reads? Who are your top suspects for today?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:11 pm

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Pomegranate is being prodded...

Deadline's now Friday night. THREE more days. You better pick up the pace.
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