Open 256~Fire and Ice Mafia Over!

[JesseSheffield]

and I think jesse is trying to draw someone else to make the hammer. He's tunnelled on me a lot, otherwise staying relatively low.

I don't really understand this. You're suggesting that...I'm only voting you for someone else to hammer? And that makes me scum?

[Scott Brosius]

mallow why do you think Lowell is town?

[Robocopter87]

Hey Robo, do you just read like every other word in my post? Did you notice my clear sarcasm tag? Or my use of past tense with the word 'had' in my more serious response?

Since you are just really adding to how pissed off I am right now, I will make things even clearer, because I'm not explaining this again.

When I said "oh crap", I HAD the LAST post with content. There was NOTHING new for me to discuss, because I was the LAST person to discuss anything. I had even already talked about how I felt about dj, so the only thing new was his status. And that was the a "well, crap" kind of thing to happen. How can me saying that be scummy IF THAT AND THE BAN OF TWO ROLELESS INNOECENTS WAS THE ONLY THING NEW?

And now, you're picking at things that don't make sense. It looks like you are just trying to appear to be scumhunting, and I don't like it.

Maybe you should relax. if you had been more calm and more serious about are conversation instead of yelling your head off. Maybe I would have understood you.

Anyways, ROLELESS INNOCENTS? Is that the only thing you think you can comment on? Yes, two people died. There are plenty of things to discuss now that more people are dead

didn't you have any reads on the dead players? You can start to review the dead people to find connections or opinions that made the scum kill them. Instead of shouting and being stupid and stating the completely obvious in fluff form. DO SOMETHING. Or don't talk at all. For if you aren't doing anything and you are talking then you are being totally useless and distracting.

There.
Was that so hard to do? Answering a simple question?

In response to Mallowgeno's question
I feel I created a good list of towns and scums

Which I do not feel like sharing.

Remember this Robo? The hypothetical list you "have". You never shared it. Why would you even say you had a list of town and scum if you weren't going to share it? So let's face it. You did nothing day one as well.


Mainly your efforts were to get DJ lynched. Too bad he turned out to be town. Now you're scramblin to find a new target. Oh look Lol has a wagon going on him! I think I'll join it and hope my buddy hammers if he isn't on it already!

Hey Mallow, check this out,

Overall:
Lowell=Scum
Scott= Leaning Town
Mallow = Null
Vren = ehhhhh, I dunno yet. I'll give this read some time to grow.

I know its not exactly the most in depth scum list of all time but there was my reads. All my other reads died.

I am not scrambling to find a new target, Lowell is scummy. I proved that with MY OWN CASE. I showed you all the scumminess coming from him. Can't find my case? Read the thread. I am not piggybacking on anyones case. If I am please do show me where I did. I am not advertising to the world saying, "VOTE LOWELL". I simply posteed my case and voted him. I'm not useless and constantly post reads with no explanation.

Why do you think Lowell is town? (Scott asked this. And I really wanna know.) Please, do tell your evidence.

[mallowgeno]

The only reason I feel Lolwell is town is because you two are lobbying so hard against him. If I didn't suspect you of being mafia I probably would hammer

[Robocopter87]

That. Is. The. Worst. Reasoning. Ever.

You are totally denying all the evidence against him only because you think we are scum.

Get off your high horse and face facts, this guy is scum. His flip will prove it! C'mon Mallow.

I will bet you.

(PS:Now I am advertising his lynch.)

[mallowgeno]

I'll take you up on that bet then Robo...

unvote, Vote Lolwell

[Robocopter87]

I stand by my decision, whether right or wrong.

Just waiting on Me=Weird to confirm that I was right.

[Me=Weird]

Prodding Vren.

votecount

Lowell(4): Scott Brosius, JesseSheffield, Robocopter87, mallowgeno
Scott Brosius(1): Lowell
Not voting(2): Zed, Vren

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is Nov. 7.

Lowell,

Ice Mafia Goon,

lynched day 3.

Night 3 begins now. Have all actions in by November 1st, at 4:00 P.M. CST.

[Me=Weird]

No one died Night 3.

votecount

Not voting(6): Robocopter87, Zed, Vren, mallowgeno, JesseSheffield, Scott Brosius

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is November 15.

[Robocopter87]

Which means the Mafias cross killed or neither got a kill in.

I'm just going to go with the first one because the second seems unlikely.

Unlikely because most everyone has been active enough and if one mafia didntt get a kill and the other mafia didnt send in a kill. Its just too unlikely. But still a possibility.

(Captain Obvious)Well thats Captain Obvious's local news report, now to Henry Hallsworth with the weather, hows the weather henry?
(Henry Hallsworth)Not too bad
(Captain Obvious) Right On

[Scott Brosius]

It's a lot more probable that they aimed for the same person.

Well Lowell was obvscum. Given that nothing has changed from D3 besides Lowell's flip, mallow is next on my scum list.

Mod: Can you do something about Vren. I know its the start of the day, but that slot has done absolutely nothing.

[Robocopter87]

I'll take you up on that bet then Robo...

unvote, Vote Lolwell

How much money were we betting again?

Yeah. Thats right. I was right. Eat it.

[mallowgeno]

I'll take you up on that bet then Robo...

unvote, Vote Lolwell

How much money were we betting again?

Yeah. Thats right. I was right. Eat it.

Just because Lolwell was mafia doesn't clear you of being Fire. I still think you and scott are scum buddies.

vote Robo

[mallowgeno]

unvote

Crap I just realized that this is a potential lylo

[Vren]

In rereading the thread, I found that the relationship between Robo and Jesse is quite interesting. Robo defends Jesse to the point of distraction, which

could

be him buddying town, but could also be a chainsaw. Jesse barely mentions Robo, aside from the early D2 conversation about his lynching practices (which serves to clear Robo so he won't be accused of policy lynching though he said he didn't do that) and a later comment that Robo should share his information.

Overall, the attack on DJ by Robo feels more like scum Robo buddying town Jesse rather than scum Robo chainsawing for scum Jesse. Right now, my vote would be with Robo.

[Scott Brosius]

/broken record doctor should claim.

It's not really LYLO in the sense where if we mislynch we lose. I realize we can lose tonight. I'm not suggesting being hasty with votes, but extreme carefulness looks like scum attempting to appear town.

Vote:mallowgeno

[mallowgeno]

/broken record doctor should claim.

It's not really LYLO in the sense where if we mislynch we lose. I realize we can lose tonight. I'm not suggesting being hasty with votes, but extreme carefulness looks like scum attempting to appear town.

Vote:mallowgeno

Now that one scum is dead, I do agree that doc should claim.

I assume the vote means that I'm trying to appear to be town. Whatever.

Vote Robo again

[Zed]

instead of yelling your head off.

Caps were for emphasis.

Looking through the thread again, the only two people still alive that Lowell mentioned is Robo and Jesse. Lowell has been saying that Jesse is town since his second post or so, and Robo was town his second post, scum his third, and town his forth. Then we get to his final post and they're a scum team.

Lowell was also mentioned very little throughtout the thread. A skim of the thread shows Robo mentioning him, Morthrax quoting him, and directly questioning him. Mallow also agrees with Lowell, and Jesse disagrees. Jesse also directly questions Lowell, and votes him. Then Scott starts the wagon, and Lowell is the center of attention.

I find it worrying that Lowell went through most of the game without being mentioned a whole lot. I can see how it happened, because of his playstyle (I kept forgetting he was playing myself), but worrying nonetheless. This makes me want to look at some other quiet players, the ones who have stayed out of the way for the most part. I plan on doing that the next chance I get, but for now I have to do some stuff.

Also, is it lylo for the town?

[Scott Brosius]

Sorta. We could lose tonight, but a mislynch doesn't doom us. It would depend on night actions. If we mislynch there will be 2 town 2 fire 1 ice and scum need a majority for their wincon.

[mallowgeno]

[quote="Zed"]This makes me want to look at some other quiet players, the ones who have stayed out of the way for the most part. /quote]

Much like yourself?

[Vren]

It's not really LYLO in the sense where if we mislynch we lose. I realize we can lose tonight. I'm not suggesting being hasty with votes, but extreme carefulness looks like scum attempting to appear town.

I disagree; we need to be looking for Lowell's partner, though. (Which means my first choice, Robo, is no longer my first choice as he is most likely not Lowell's buddy.) Taking out the entire team will reduce the NK to one. Also, no, the doctor shouldn't claim. If we play this right, then we kill Lowell's buddy and the doctor manages to protect the right target tonight.

Why do you want the claim so much? Also, why are you willing to risk a mislynch...this isn't MYLO if night kills could end the game...it's LYLO. Of course the doc could get a good protect, or both scum teams could make a cross kill and negate each other's kill, but come on...why should we risk it?

I think Mallow is most likely the last Ice scum. Lowell accused him and Scott of being buddies in 373, but votes Scott, not Mallow, even pointing out that Mallow is taking his (Lowell's) side (and it's his first mention of Mallow, at all). Mallow also doesn't mention Lowell until after Scott connects them, and soon thereafter begins mentioning "Lolwell" in almost every post.

Reads:
Robo: Fire scum
Mallow: Ice Scum

[Scott Brosius]

I never said I was willing to risk a mislynch. I'm saying LYLO means that the game is definitely over if we mislynch. This is not the case. Night actions could lead to a cross-kill taking out 2 scum, both shooting at the same target killing nobody.

Yeah reducing the NKs is nice. I think it's more likely you are fire mafia and are selectively scum-hunting. Half of the remaining players are scum. I'm just looking for the scummiest player at this point. If Robo is your first choice, you should go with it.

I don't find doctors that useful, and when half of the game is scum, they prove even more useless. As I said before, it will narrow down the pool of lynch candidates for today, and create some nighttime WIFOM follies (unless we lynch Ice).

I do agree with mallow's point on Zed. Pot calling kettle black.

[Me=Weird]

I am informing JesseSheffield that the day has started.

votecount

mallowgeno(1): Scott Brosius
Robocopter87(1): mallowgeno
Not voting(4): Robocopter87, Zed, Vren, JesseSheffield

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is November 15.

[Zed]

I never said, or suggested, that I was one of the more talkative players. I don't know where you are getting that from.

[Scott Brosius]

I took it as you are accusing of someone being quiet as inherently scummy. Yet you have been quiet. So there's a contradiction there.