Newbie 1013(GAME OVER!|Scum win!)

[Robocopter87]

Ok...lets try this again...

Hey Robo. It seems like I am having trouble posting as of late. My last two posts are not in the correct order as they should be listed in respect to everyone else and my latest one did not go through when I hit submit. I'm going to tinker with my browsers setting soon, but idk what is up with this.

Eh, not to be offensive but what the heck does it matter to me? I can't do anything about it. I can't even delete posts. I can only edit them. I have no pwer and no knowledge of whatver is wrong. Hope it gets fixed though.

Maybe you should try Alt-F4 lol

(Note: Don't do this. It automatically exits the window you have up rofl, I learned this the hard way. Made me look really dumb. I was playing Trackmania online and some jerk told me that Alt-F4 made me go faster, I was naive and not a comp person then and I tried it lol. Didn't end well for me.)

[Robocopter87]

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Vote Count

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MAD Scientist[0]
Civil Scum[0]
nameloc1986[0]
mikemike778[0]
holycon [0]

Ant_to_the_max [2] Civil Scum, nameloc1986

AClockworkMelon [1] Elliberith
Ellibereth [0]

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Not Voting

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MAD scientist, mikemike778, holycon, Ant_to_the_Max, AclockworkMelon

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Amount to Lynch

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With 8 Alive it is 5 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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Midnight of November 8^th

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Just to make sure everyone can see it.

[Civil Scum]

Holy: if you "never said you thought ACM was scum", then why the hell did you vote for him for almost 3 weeks?

[Ant_to_the_max]

I honestly don't know what powers they bestow on you as a moderator >__> The worst advice people give on computers is when someone says they are running linux and someone gives them a line to run that wipes the hard drive >_>

Ditto to Civil's question. And then lets add: So who do you think is scum now?

[mikemike778]

what is scum meta ?

Past or previous examples or games of someones games where they were scum.

I have to do a little more reading, but I have a pretty strong urge to vote Holycon on a meta basis. ACM is still up there.

Ant, Holycon, ACM are def my top 3. Though Ant's latest posts sound decent. But I'm not ready to let him off the hook.

Ta.

Thing is though with all the reminiscing in the first few pages about when people played with each other (in mafia of course) wouldn't a scum player try and act differently to when they last played scum to avoid people accusing them on a meta basis.

Maybe we should be going the opposite way and looking to see who's acting noticeably different to when they were last scum. Or is this in the realm of becoming in danger of ending up out-thinking yourself?

[nameloc1986]

what is scum meta ?

Past or previous examples or games of someones games where they were scum.

I have to do a little more reading, but I have a pretty strong urge to vote Holycon on a meta basis. ACM is still up there.

Ant, Holycon, ACM are def my top 3. Though Ant's latest posts sound decent. But I'm not ready to let him off the hook.

Ta.

Thing is though with all the reminiscing in the first few pages about when people played with each other (in mafia of course) wouldn't a scum player try and act differently to when they last played scum to avoid people accusing them on a meta basis.

Maybe we should be going the opposite way and looking to see who's acting noticeably different to when they were last scum. Or is this in the realm of becoming in danger of ending up out-thinking yourself?

It does end up being a case of WIFOM so be careful. Meta could be helpful and misleading all at the same time.

[nameloc1986]

BTW I'm gonna try to post some more of my thoughts tonight if I have time.

[holycon]

Holy: if you "never said you thought ACM was scum", then why the hell did you vote for him for almost 3 weeks?

i explained that already when i was talking about my ACM vote to begin with i'm not going to continually repeat myself

[Ellibereth]

Holy: if you "never said you thought ACM was scum", then why the hell did you vote for him for almost 3 weeks?

i explained that already when i was talking about my ACM vote to begin with i'm not going to continually repeat myself

Do me a favor and please do. >.>

Civil, could you link to holy relevant meta stuff again, or your post here about it?
I'm too lazy to look back right now...

[Ant_to_the_max]

VOTE: holycon

my reasoning i dont have one i just dont feel like unvoteing when i feel that my vote needs to be somewhere else i'll move it

But in ISO #24 she claims that Park and I are her two top suspects

But she never goes on to fully explore either option.

If you look at my ISO i believe i never said i thought clock was scum h was just my random vote and

thats were my vote stayed till i was ready to make a definite vote which idid on zero because i thought zero was scum

iam actually not sure about ACM as scum hes play style this game is more close to the first game i played with him were he was town but i'm not ruleing anyone out as scum

Now, here it looks like she is covering her tracks. Sure, she mentioned that she thought Park and I were scum, and went into it with a few minor points. But I still see this as being very opportunistic. Finally getting behind her "suspicion" near the end of day one to slowly push the Zero wagon.

That is what I have right now. I'll look tomorrow at others, but right now this is my stance.

[holycon]

I don't see your point i did exactly what i said i was going to do i left my vote were it was till i wanted to move it some were else

[nameloc1986]

[sarcasm]I'm loving the participation level in this game[/sarcasm]

MAD, I just want to point out that your ISO doesn't even fill up a single damn page. We're in 25 fucking pages. Please replace out if you can't participate more.

Mike, the same can almost be said for you. I do like your increase in participation however. I get a null read from you ATM.

ACM, for someone who got on everyone's case for not participating much earlier in the game, you almost seem to be flaking out. You've only made one content post in Day 2. Put up the video games and get on your computer.

After yet another read through:

Scummish reads on Holy & ACM

Town reads on Civil

UNVOTE: Ant
VOTE: ACM

[holycon]

Holy: if you "never said you thought ACM was scum", then why the hell did you vote for him for almost 3 weeks?

i explained that already when i was talking about my ACM vote to begin with i'm not going to continually repeat myself

Do me a favor and please do. >.>

Civil, could you link to holy relevant meta stuff again, or your post here about it?
I'm too lazy to look back right now...

[holycon]

Holy: if you "never said you thought ACM was scum", then why the hell did you vote for him for almost 3 weeks?

i explained that already when i was talking about my ACM vote to begin with i'm not going to continually repeat myself

Do me a favor and please do. >.>

Civil, could you link to holy relevant meta stuff again, or your post here about it?
I'm too lazy to look back right now...

read a couple of posts up and you'll have my answer i dont know why in three posts I already need to repeat myself

(also forget the post above i hit submit on accident

[AClockworkMelon]

VOTE: Holycon

I don't know why you're being so difficult in regards to Elli and Civil's simple question. You voted for me while you de facto FOS'd your supposed suspicions without seriously pursuing them. I don't know why you keep saying that my playstyle in this game matches my playstyle in the first game I played where I flipped town. That's not very good evidence of my alignment. You said that you were suspicious of Zero last game? I looked through your ISO. Only after everyone else had showed their hands did you tip yours: "I've been suspicious of him all along! And he hasn't eased my mind since his replacement that's for darned certain!" You're attempting to play to the mob.

[AClockworkMelon]

Also: I've beaten the game and caught up with the thread. I'm in posting mode again.

[AClockworkMelon]

Scummish reads on Holy & ACM

At least you present a thorough case! Share your thoughts with the class?

[AClockworkMelon]

Or is this in the realm of becoming in danger of ending up out-thinking yourself?

It's a big 'ol can of wine.

In my last (and only) game of scum I was like an uber town player. I used my knowledge of everyone's alignments to play people against each other, etc. A very proud moment for me. I'm basically playing like shit this game. Is that evidence of my innocence?

No.

[nameloc1986]

Scummish reads on Holy & ACM

At least you present a thorough case! Share your thoughts with the class?

For you: I went back and reread your argument with Civil in Day 1. It's mostly a gut feeling, but I never liked your tunneling of Civil when you hardly haven't tunneled anyone else in the game. Granted Civil was being mysterious with his unexplained FOS's and votes but I saw an opportunism with you to attack him. Lot of the argument was unnecessary like you were setting him up to be lynched. Now granted that may not be the case, but it has crossed my mind as a possible option. Since then you haven't really committed to anyone else just yet.

Now answer this: why haven't you questioned Elli about his vote on you?

I'll talk about Holy later.

[Robocopter87]

[sarcasm]I'm loving the participation level in this game[/sarcasm]

This is my fault.

You see, when any of you become Moderators you have to learn that the way you mod reflects in your players. If you are fun and active, you'll get a fun and active response. If you flake, come back 10 days later, put up a vote count and then flake some more you aren't going to get good active players.

Since I kinda fell out on my duties activity levels went down.

Being a moderator also means taking responsibility for any actions you make, being honest to your players and trying your best and preparing for your games beforehand instead of when you are filled with players.

I hope you all take this to heart and remember this if any of you ever mod to anybody.

I'm going to check if MAD needs prodding.

[Robocopter87]

I prodded MAD about when I posted my last message btw

[MAD Scientist]

Anywho, question time: has anyone picked up on possible scum teams?

That's an easy one: holycon and Clock

VOTE: holycon

Holycon's acting very suspicious, Ant pretty much outlined it.
Clock's bussing. Effectively =P

[AClockworkMelon]

Now answer this: why haven't you questioned Elli about his vote on you?

Did you miss the first few pages of the game?

After an attempt to seem mysterious Elli finally indicated that this post of mine caused his vote:

Is Doubt a noob? If so his not caring about being at L-2 indicates either a.) towniness or b.) he's not paying attention to the game. If he's not a noob then it doesn't indicate anything.

[AClockworkMelon]

Clock

MAD's bussing.

[Civil Scum]

Civil, could you link to holy relevant meta stuff again, or your post here about it?

It's something totally subconcious I think. I don't want to explain it.
If I'm right I'd be willing to go into it, if I'm feeling generous towards Holycon for some reason.
And, if I'm wrong, well...

At any rate, I'm going to

vote: Holycon

You'll have to come up with your own reasons for now. Like ACM has, many of which appear decent I might add.


BTW's, I forgot MAD was even in this game!

wouldn't a scum player try and act differently to when they last played scum to avoid people accusing them on a meta basis.

You are proving to be quite the perceptive newbie, between this and your uncommon recognition of the massive downside to a no-lynch. Doesn't mean you're not scum though.