Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[nopointinactingup]

Does that mean I've caught you?

[mikeburnfire]

Here's a giant wall of why camn is scum and we should lynch her. For those of you who don't want to sift through this tedious mess, I will boil it down for you:
She hasn't scumhunted at all this game, just gone after lurkers and easy wagons. Through the entire game she's buddied up to Ellibereth, attacked players for horribly dumb reasons, tried to go after Katsuki like crazy, even though she openly admitted that she thought that Kats was town (on Day 3 no less, when she should have been going for actual scum). She has also vigorously declared herself Town Townerson, the towniest townie of townsville, but her reason of "Vezok was lynched because of meee" is AN OUTRIGHT LIE. If you read through her posts in Isolation, it becomes very clear that she is scum, and that either IcerintMPR, TBR, or maybe Pom is the 3rd scummate.


ISO 5-10: Hypocrisy of attacking Katsuki without reasons, and attacking others for not giving reasons
ISO 12: Distances and coaches Vezok.
ISO 15: Quickly unvotes her scumpartner. The distancing is done, but we really don't want a lynch, do we?
ISO 18-24+: Rails on Katsuki for terrible reasons.
ISO 29: Unvotes Katsuki to put Mongoose (now confirmed town) at Lynch-1.
ISO 33: After Vezok's speed hammer to kill Mongoose, she does what she has to do, and votes her scummate again.
ISO 35 and 39: Calls Katsuki a lurking town, which drastically contrasts her opinion for the majority of Day 1.
ISO 42: Smoking gun
ISO 44: Votes MPR
ISO 47:

SHE VOTES KATUSKI AGAIN

. Why does she do this? Oh, because a Katsuki-wagon is forming, and it's just too easy.
ISO 63: "

"If Katsu is town, scum would have jumped on the wagon by now. If Katsu IS scum, her partners are NOT on the wagon right now, and are lurking. Which is almost certainly the case. Scum wouldn't be letting a mislynch lose steam, IMO.

Scum were already on the wagon. But you didn't talk about this possibility because it could implicate you.
ISO 65: After all the furor that camn makes about Katsuki being scum, she unvotes and votes FarCryNoPoint because ButtonMan made a good case. She then treats Katsuki like a townie. Actually, that's only partially true. Throughout the entire Day 2, she has changed gears between "Katsuki is obviously scum"and "Katuski is probably town, but let's lynch her anyway. In short,

she has avoided any actual scumhunting thus far

, just switching to whatever wagon is convienient.
ISO 68:

Let's run MPR up to L-1, and see who has the balls to hammer.

<- This statement fits well with ^that. I mean, she goes directly from Ï like Buttonman's case" to "Let's kill Buttonman"
ISO 74: Votes Katsuki because, surprise surprise, her wagon's back up to Lynch-2.
ISO 76: Tries to take credit for the Vezok bandwagon, when really, all she did Day1 was vote-on-vote-off Vezok in a weak scum-distancing play. If she's trying to take credit for the Day2 bandwagon, that's just laughable. She was just the first one to do the obvious.
ISO 77: Unvotes Katsuki to attack Nopoint, but swears to hammer Katsuki.
ISO 78: Tries to hammer Katsuki
ISO 79: Puts vote back on NoPoint
ISO 86: Back to Katsuki
ISO 90: Repeats what she's been saying all day: "I have no interest in hunting scum, I just want to kill you"
<LYNCH>
ISO 92: Pushes for Spyrex death. She attacks Spyrex for saying "I'm mad". She tries to link scumSpyrex to scumPom, even though she has never show much suspicion on either before. She attacks her predecessor for staying off the Vezok bandwagon (even though scum would totally sacrifice idiotscumVezok anyway). She attacks Spyrex for doing a VC-analysis like she did. == Four reasons for her Spyrex vote, and all of them are garbage.
ISO 97: Unvotes for no real reason, yells about how she's obviously town, tries to force the town's efforts towards lurkers.

LURKERS ON DAY THREE

.
ISO 98: "Even though I just vehemently attacked Spyrex for being scum, I'm going to obey him and vote for Pom."
ISO 101: She buddies to Ellibereth (she has been doing this all game), calls me town (I haven't been a very good player up to this point, so keeping me alive benefits scum), and TMB and icerint are town for some reason.
ISO 102: "Let's lynch the most useless people first". Yeah, just like with Katsuki. That worked out well for you.

NoPoint is town. Ellibereth is probably town. Camn is scum. Vote for camn on November 2nd. Or now.

[mikeburnfire]

ISO 97: Unvotes for no real reason, yells about how she's obviously town, tries to force the town's efforts towards lurkers. LURKERS ON DAY

THREE

FOUR.

<cough> Excuse me.

[camn]

It actually did work well. .. Snark aside.
And I think you ARE town. Too bad you are tunneling on a townie.

[camn]

Also... Why NOT lurkers on day 4?
We have nothing.
We have no good suspects.
Nothing in VC.
Lurking is just as scummy now as it is on day 1.

Of course... SPYREX is not a lurker. So you attack me both for going after lurkers, and going after one of the more active players.
You, sir, have to clear up your message.

[TheButtonmen]

DAMMIT PEOPLE TOO MANY REPLACEMENTS BUTTON RAGE!

ENOUGH PUSSY FOOTING AROUND, MY CASE ON NOPOINTS SLOT IS SOLID.

MORE RAGE.

[SpyreX]

Well that's much better MBF.

I still want more Pom dead. Much, much more. BUT YOU DO RAISE POINTS

TBM PLEASE REXPLAIN FOR THE SICK

[mikeburnfire]

I forgot about that case TBM made, so I went back and looked at it. While I think some points he makes are weak, but the points that are strong are REALLY strong. There does seem to be an aweful lot of coaching with Vezok on Budja's part.

Since I'm sure everybody will be hesitant to lynch camn based on her steadfast participation, I will join you, Buttonman. But in exchange I ask that you look at my case, and tell me if you agree with the points that *I* have made about camn.

unvote, vote NoPoint

[Ellibereth]

V/LA 2-3 days

[nopointinactingup]

ATTENTION: ADDRESS THIS OR GET ROPED. THEBUTTONMEN, MIKEBURNFIRE.

As for TBM's case:

Sorry for the delay and the terrible formatting, I'm having to reread a whole game at the moment so it's cutting into my mafia time for the tonight / tommorrow.

In a chronological and some what PBPA style here's why I think Far cry is the lynch o' the day.

1

This post seems to be distancing, though Vezo's idea was bad it seemed like he jumped on too quickly.

2

Then he proceeds to defend Vezo as a VI, which is strange given his previous entry to Vezo wagon based on Vezo making a bad suggestion.

3

He then unvotes for no real reason.

4

And then starts the mongoose wagon, note while he recognized and defended Vezo as VI he doesn't see mongoose as a VI.

Budja is replaced.

5

His response to Mike replacing in is odd because as he later explains.

6

In his other game with Mike, Mike was the best town. Which makes his "OH SHIT" really weird

7

MBF is then the target of the NK.

8

When giving his list of reads he uses reasoning like "Your town because you haven't done anything scummy yet" which to me sound like "I can't find anything to attack you with" and he is again certain that Vezo is scum.

9

When Elli pressures Vezo, Far Cry coaches him.

When the whole Kats vs Tants fight happens he attacks Kats but never puts down a vote, in fact during all this he isn't voting anyone.

10

He then latches onto Ellis idea of a lurker lynch despite been quite confident that Kats is qutie scummy. Note he had also just previously been attacking Elli too.

And then there is this little bit; watch him wiffle waffle to what ever is popular.

11

Compare THIS post and THIS post made latter.

1> There's no such thing as jump too quickly. If it's bad, Budja would jump into it that's all.
2> Strange indeed. But perhaps he realized VIs make bad suggestions so Vezo was not necessarily scum.
3> Hence his thought process.
4> This can be attributed to Budja's experience with Vezo and non-experience with mongoose.
5,6> He's more likely to retort such comment as town because scum mentality really prevents you from being so overt about your real feelings.
7> It's Mike's room, not him.
8> I've seen multiple people having town reads from people "they haven't found anything scummy about".
9> I can hardly call that coaching.
10> He said he didn't find the lurker scummy. I think he wanted more opinions.
11> Your point?

TBM, I do think you are town. But my case is much better than yours, vote Katsuki and win this game for us.

[mikeburnfire]

A little pressure and NoPoint starts making threats.

Anyway, got three tests today. No time to read the rebuttal. Maybe Thursday, Friday at most.

[camn]

This game needs a bandwagon:

VOTE: NOPOINT IN ACTING UP

Your threats have no teeth.

[SpyreX]

Damnit camn.

You're scum with pom, aren't you?

ARENT YOU?

[nopointinactingup]

My point is TBM gearing up for tunneling mode without addressing my rebuttal is a no no.
Mike dropped his huge case to buddy up as usual.
And Camn ..

[camn]

cute.

[DrippingGoofball]

DizzyIzzyB13 is replacing Pomegranate.
sapovirus replaces jenniwren.

DEADLINE November 9, 10 PM EST.

[nopointinactingup]

@Camn: It's got teeth.
@Mike: I just bit Camn, do you still essentially think I'm her scumbuddy =(?

[Iecerint]

Nice to see fresh meat. Want more from both slots.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Oh hai. I've got to catch up on the game before I can provide anything useful, but I'd find it helpful if people would ask questions to help me along the way.

[TheButtonmen]

Nice to see fresh meat. Want more from both slots.

I loled, then I reread your ISO and then I loled again.

[Iecerint]

What made you lol again?

[saporovirus]

meatslots wut? O_O

[Iecerint]

WHOA THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

I promise.

[saporovirus]

>.> @ Iec

It took me more than two hours to read this game. Once. I is not amused.

Dunno: Budja/F_C/ NPIAU
Pom
Dom/MBF
Scummish: Tans/ Spyrex*
Camn
Town: MPR/Iec
Elli
jenny/sapo
*def.

Now, what the hell's going on?

[Iecerint]

What is your favorite scummy thing that camn did?

I remember thinking she was town when I read, but I was also feeling really strongly that Katsuki was scum, so I should probably reread tbh.

What the hell's going on = mainly everyone is mourning Katsuki being town.

What made you call Elli town?

Did you make any notes as you read through? How did you construct that list (i.e. real-time vs. after reading everything)?