Gonzoooo wrote:
I'm fairly certain he's town by the way the scum are trying to make him into a punching bag. I agree that consig needs to post some content, but what separates him from several other players in this game that have done very little other than sheep popular votes? Nothing as far as I can see except he looks like a possible mislynch. That's how I'm certain he's town. Possible VI, but still town.
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See, it's this kind of poor play that loses games for town all the time. I ask you the same question as I asked implosion, what separates Consig from several other players that are not actively scumhunting in this game? What about Powerrox? He just posted essentially saying 'eh, I'm not even really trying to do anything'. How is Consig scummier than him? Because he was confused about someone not in the game? He gave a very plausible reply as to why he did it. No harm, no foul.
What about Zhero? Notice how he stopped posting once I called him out. What about smashbro and xenophon? Where's don johnson at? You guys really need to learn to actually look for scum behavior instead of stupid behavior.
The thing that separates Consigliere from other lurkers to me is that he has said a lot - but none of it has actually contained scumhunting or even opinions. He's also made lengthly comments that are overtly irrelevant - his "sugar hangover" comment, the Hunter S. Thompson comment. He's
actively
lurking, not just lurking. And as for the andrew vote, me (and Lewarcher) have both said that this was not a reason for our votes. I also agree with most of what Lewarcher said in post 93, particularly his first point. It's nearly a week into the game, and bandwagons have to appear sooner or later. And just because there's a bandwagon on day one, it doesn't mean it isn't on scum, which I think it is. Also, I still don't understand your position on him - you say you're "fairly certain" then go on to say you are certain. Are you saying that you are 100% sure that Consig is town? If so, how? You say it's because nothing separates him from others... well first of all, there are things. And second of all, even if so, so what? How would that make him definite town?
As for the other people you mention:
Powerrox: his "minimal reads on everyone" post does disconcert me for similar reasons to Consig, as does his apparent confusion even though Don explained himself thoroughly. Of your examples, he is probably the scummiest.
Zhero: he was a bit slow to start, but he's giving opinions. He's contributing. Certainly better than Consig.
Smashbro: has posted content. He's lurking, but not actively lurking; his third post contains a lot of content.
xenophon: who the hell knows. He hasn't posted since his confirmation. There is no way as of now to read him, unfortunately.
don: again, a normal lurker. He's made one vote, explained it when asked, then kind of... disappeared until a few hours ago.
Powerrox and Zhero appear to be getting more active, which is good. If Smashbro, xeno and don could post more (or for xeno, at all) that would be helpful.
As for your (Gonzoooo's) vote on werewolf, I'm completely in agreement with your reasoning, but again I don't see how you seem to be 100% sure about everything, unless you yourself are scum. Come to think of it, I also don't like werewolf's vote on Gonzoooo very much. It seems like he was just taking something strange and voting Gonzoooo for it, rather than voting him for something scummy.
May as well post reads on everyone else too while I'm at it.
mallow: I'm surprised he isn't in Gonzoooo's list of people that are comparable to Consig. He's been lurking. I don't have a strong read on him right now, just as I don't have a strong read on the other generic lurkers. I would lean town simply because he hasn't done anything scummy, and because of his contributing to game-relevant matters. I'd also lean town on Smashbro and don, Smashbro because his most recent post is good (opinions, questions) and don because of his explanation of his vote on Lewarcher (even if I don't really agree with it) and his vote did help us transition into the non-RVS scumhunting phase. And as I said, xeno is completely null. No posts = nothing to look at.
Lewarcher: his play so far is good. He's active, and hasn't done anything that seems scummy, particularly in his reaction to the first "real" vote. Probtown.
saporo: has also been active in the discussion. Has also done nothing scummy that I see. Also probtown.
. If he's town, he'll calm down and start contributing. I haven't seen signs of that yet.
