Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over

[LimMePls]

I already said I find Haylen lazy, not necessarily scummy, and I'm voting Snake. Isn't this obvious?

Not when you're attacking Haylen.

Why is arguing with someone = attacking? I said she was lazy, she asked why I was saying that, I pointed to the reasons I made that assertion, and she disagreed with me. We are disagreeing over my statement that she is lazy, and I'm not "attacking" her. I believe Haylen's play is anti-town (lazy and unwilling to engage with the game), but I don't think its scummy.

[UncertainKitten]

Guess we'll have to disagree. I really don't give five shits that he's "new". He's not posting with town intent. You disagree. Do you want a medal or something? When he flips scum I'll be sure to scrutinize you closely ^-^.

[Jack]

unvote, vote:snake

[VasudeVa]

Wow. I just completely forgot I was even in this game. Stupid New York subforum, why aren't you as awesome as Theme Park?

Snake is a reasonable lynch, sure.

@Snake:

I'm threatening the hammer.

UK & eldarad = Town.

Is it just me, or does it seem like Hayl is pulling whatever shit she can find to delay Snake's lynch? Too many fucking excuses on Snake with nary a mention of

his play

rather her comments are more on theory. It reads a LOT like she's IC-ing for snake. Srsly, check it out. Coaching/buddying very possible.

@Hayl:

Do you bus? What's your stand on bussing? Why are you defending/delaying the Snake lynch? Have you buddied/been accused of buddying before?

Nik, Vas - why do you oppose a Snake lynch?

Where did I say this?

[Antihero]

I'm looking at the votecount and I don't recall being the first on the Snake wagon (not that I have a problem with it, it's a good wagon, but that's kind of weird).

Jack, why the spastic vote switching? Neither Snake nor mothrax posted between your change of votes.

[UncertainKitten]

I was the first vote. I moved to CJMiller for a short time, and then back to Snake. Hell, I started the Snake wagon. And I'm damned proud of it!

[LimMePls]

I'm looking at the votecount and I don't recall being the first on the Snake wagon (not that I have a problem with it, it's a good wagon, but that's kind of weird).

*PING* We've got scum contact off the starboard bow!

Are you trying to distance yourself from this wagon before we've seen the flip?

[mothrax]

Nik the first four on the wagon were uk, glory Lowell and anti, though jack is probably in there at some point

[Jack]

unvote

fos:anti

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: Snake

- I wouldn't be pleased to see him lynched but I would be happy with it.

[SnakePlissken]

Vas, if you feel like ending tis prolonged agent then do it. I still think you all ought to take a closer look at LMP and UK after my town flip though.

[UncertainKitten]

Could you explain why, at least, rather than insisting on it and hoping your (not) town flip will suddenly make us assume everything you say is 100% accurate?

Because so far I haven't seen a case, just a "guys, I'm town." "No, REAAALLLLLY guys, I'm towwwwwwwwn" "Why are you lyyyyynchiiiiiing me, I'm toowwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn" "Please guys, I'm towwwwwwwwwwn" "I'm going to name two people for WIFOM purposes without a case because I'm tooooooowwwwwnnnnnnnn"

So please, rectify this.

[Jack]

unvote, vote:snake

[Antihero]

I'm looking at the votecount and I don't recall being the first on the Snake wagon (not that I have a problem with it, it's a good wagon, but that's kind of weird).

*PING* We've got scum contact off the starboard bow!

Are you trying to distance yourself from this wagon before we've seen the flip?

Nope, just something I noticed in the vote count, Mr. Hay Factory.

[Haylen]

@Hayl: Do you bus? What's your stand on bussing? Why are you defending/delaying the Snake lynch? Have you buddied/been accused of buddying before?

I've only bused twice as scum. Once where there was a cop guilty on CSL, the second time was an open where I managed to lead scum to victory by giving strong evidence that Battle Mage was scum. I don't like bussing unless its completely necessary - which is why AGar's play annoyed me when I was scum with him in Vi's recent game. I'm defending the Snake lynch because I looked at the reasons for them and I didn't think they were good enough. I always buddy...as town - there has never been a case that I can remember where I have buddied as scum, I couldn't hack buddying as scum because the reasons I do them as town are completely different to why a scum would do it :/

@ NS - Don't worry. Usually my V/LA's mean I'll skim the thread for my name and answer questions directed at me. I have work at the weekends and any sort of analysis is exhausting.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.09

SnakePlissken - 11 - Antihero, eldarad, Xine, mothrax, AGar, CJMiller, UncertainKitten, Yosarian2, LynchMePls, Empking, Jack

Empking - 2 - Nikanor, VasudeVa
CJMiller - 2 - Lowell, Haylen
LynchMePls - 1 - Azazel


Not Voting: jmj3000, Sudo_Nym, Glork, SnakePlissken


With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline: November 17

Random notes:

-- Searching for replacements for Azazel and jmj3000
-- Haylen is on V/LA until Monday-ish.
-- Lynch scene (Largely Flavorless) is coming.

[Nobody Special]

After much debate, and a lot of namecalling, you've finally decided that the one with the eyepatch must die.

SnakePlissken, Vanilla Townie,

has been lynched.

Night One begins now. Deadline is November 9. Any night actions not received by me at that time will not happen.

I will post progress of the replacements in this thread -- I hope to have them soon, and any potential Night Extensions (if necessary) will be posted here as well.

If you know anyone that might be even the tiniest bit interested in replacing them PM me.

[Nobody Special]

Nachomomma8 replaces Azazel effective immediately.

Still searching for a replacement for jmj3000.

[Nobody Special]

RedCoyote replaces jmj3000 effective immediately.

[Nobody Special]

You awaken to a quiet morning. Eager to find out what transpired overnight, you set off in search of bodies.
In the Town Square, you find the body -- in one piece -- of Yosarian2. He has been shot.

Yosarian2, a Vanilla Townie,

has been shot Night One.

You wander further through town, still listening intently through the quiet.

It's so quiet.

Very quiet.

For 12 minutes, you wander about aimlessly, in the quiet.

Then you find a leg.

Ew.

There's another leg, over there.

Oh, look -- in the bushes are two arms.

And behind that tree is the torso of CJMiller. Ick.

CJMiller, a Vanilla Townie,

has been dismembered Night One.

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: November 23.

[UncertainKitten]

Glork isn't dead yet, we should lynch him.

More seriously, I need to reassess things, as promised. I'll be looking mostly around the start of the Snake wagon, I think. Yes, I am aware I started it. Doesn't mean scum couldn't have furthered it to the point of it being a wagon.

[Sudo_Nym]

I also notice that Jack is still alive, despite his claim. I'm trying to think of what that could mean, but every line I can come up with leads to WIFOM:

-Jack is scum, so naturally, wasn't targetted.
-Jack isn't scum, so naturally, the mafia tried to hit the Doctor first.

This leads me to nowhere, but I still don't like Jack's claim.

[UncertainKitten]

Votecount 1.03

LynchMePls - 5 - Glork, Empking, eldarad, Azazel, AGar
Empking - 4 - Lowell, Nikanor, Yosarian2, Jack
Lowell - 2 - UncertainKitten, Haylen
Sudo_Nym - 1 - SnakePlissken
Agar - 1 - mothrax
Antihero - 1 - LynchMePls
Azazel - 1 - Xine
Nikanor - 1 - Antihero
Xine - 1 - VasudeVa

Not Voting: CJMiller, jmj3000, Sudo_Nym

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

This is the votecount before the Snake wagon.

Of note are the wagons on Empking and LynchMePls. Also, I'm pretty sure Lowell didn't stop being scummy. Let me ISO all three of these individuals.

@Sudo: There was no chance Jack was being targetted by scum. It just wasn't going to happen. It would have been a suboptimal move.

[UncertainKitten]

Hmm...LMP starts out very solidly town, asking questions, getting into things. What's odd is when the Snake wagon springs up he seems to sheep more...He doesn't vote Snake until late in the day, but I'm still...finding it mildly odd. He does dig up a lot on Snake though after his vote to explain to Haylen, so maybe it wasn't as weird as I thought.

Eh, let's go with: Hey, LMP, can you post or repost a case on Antihero?

Now Empking.

[UncertainKitten]

Empking makes no sense whatsoever, theory wise. He does make sense as town, oddly enough, he's just...bad at it, at least in his early ISO.

OK, I'd REALLY like to know who is being quoted in this post. I'd also enjoy links to the quoted posts.

Hmm...I'm neutral on Empking by the end of his ISO. It feels like it should be townie but it feels like he also has some very convenient opinions at times. I'll keep an eye on him.

Now Lowell. Also, I forgot to recheck Xine.