Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[LimMePls]

LMP: what do you mean "his claim is accurate"?

I mean his claim is accurate. CKD asked me if I agreed with his claim, and I was responding to that.

[evilpacman18]

vollkan and LMp are both scum and lying

I agree

[vollkan]

LMP and vollkan...not only does your role stop someone from killing, but it also protects someone from a kill....after 4 nights, you have yet to stop a kill..one would think that you have done something by now...

I think that's simplistic.

N1 and N2, I was chosen on the conservative rationale that I was a good protection choice without any risk of being roleblocked. However, the kills on both those nights ended up being on claimed power roles, which I wasn't. When I was arguing for protecting you on N3 I actually made the point that I didn't think it was likely that LMP or I would be targeted, since neither of us had claimed. And I've already explained our thinking N4.

thoughts on suspicion of the other?

We've been in agreement on a lot, and I haven't seen any scumminess from him. Also, and I know there is some wifom uncertainty in this, I find it very hard to believe that scum would have kept me alive knowing that I was a power role.

vollkan and LMp are both scum and lying

I agree

Because?

[evilpacman18]

Because you are scum and if the only way for you to be scum is for LMP to be scum by association, so be it. I have already explained why you are scum.

[vollkan]

Because you are scum and if the only way for you to be scum is for LMP to be scum by association, so be it. I have already explained why you are scum.

1) Your case against me is a playstyle attack;
2) Why do you say that LMP and I both have to be scum?

[LimMePls]

Wow, evilpacman is either stupid or scum. I'm not sure which yet.

[evilpacman18]

Because you are scum and if the only way for you to be scum is for LMP to be scum by association, so be it. I have already explained why you are scum.

1) Your case against me is a playstyle attack;
2) Why do you say that LMP and I both have to be scum?

because LMP would say something if you weren't together on it.

Wow, evilpacman is either stupid or scum. I'm not sure which yet.

There's a third possibility. It's the correct one and it's the one you're missing.

[vollkan]

because LMP would say something if you weren't together on it.

What do you mean?

Wow, evilpacman is either stupid or scum. I'm not sure which yet.

There's a third possibility. It's the correct one and it's the one you're missing.

That you're an idiot AND you're scum?

[evilpacman18]

because LMP would say something if you weren't together on it.

What do you mean?

Wow, evilpacman is either stupid or scum. I'm not sure which yet.

There's a third possibility. It's the correct one and it's the one you're missing.

That you're an idiot AND you're scum?

If you went around telling people what actions LMP did when he didn't do them, LMP would naturally say something if he was pro-town.

Ok that is another possibility but it's also the incorrect one. We are now at four possibilities and the three you've figured out are all wrong. Care to go again?

[vollkan]

If you went around telling people what actions LMP did when he didn't do them, LMP would naturally say something if he was pro-town.

But LMP did do the actions that I said he did...

Ok that is another possibility but it's also the incorrect one. We are now at four possibilities and the three you've figured out are all wrong. Care to go again?

You're an idiot third-party role? You have a post restriction that requires you not to use logic?

[RedCoyote]

I'm going to start looking for a replacement for rudeboy unless he tells me otherwise. He picked up his prod but never posted.

Just a reminder that a2rudeboy told me during the previous night phase that he did not want to replace out. Obviously if he doesn't post soon however, I'll start looking.

[lewarcher82]

CKD asked me if I agree on the fact that jack's posts about insider-info on post-restr. are the reason why he was lynched.
My answer in German would be jain, so "a little yes and a little no", because there is a high chance that jack was also lynched to make me (us?) become even more convinced that a2rudeboy is in fact scum. I am being devoured by doubts right now.

[vollkan]

This:

I'm going to start looking for a replacement for rudeboy unless he tells me otherwise. He picked up his prod but never posted.

Just a reminder that a2rudeboy told me during the previous night phase that he did not want to replace out. Obviously if he doesn't post soon however, I'll start looking.

Refutes this:
[quote="lewarcher"
@Mod: sidenote for future reference (I am a kick in the balls, sorry): it is not a good idea to let a day become night and then day again with an inactive player. Now we can easily assume that a2rudeboy & pacman are not scumbuddies, as one was jailed and the other was inactive. This is an information we can use, but the way we got it is not fair.
[/quote]

CKD asked me if I agree on the fact that jack's posts about insider-info on post-restr. are the reason why he was lynched.
My answer in German would be jain, so "a little yes and a little no", because there is a high chance that jack was also lynched to make me (us?) become even more convinced that a2rudeboy is in fact scum. I am being devoured by doubts right now.

How does jack's flip make it more likely that a2 is scum?

[vollkan]

Ugh...quote tag fail

This:

I'm going to start looking for a replacement for rudeboy unless he tells me otherwise. He picked up his prod but never posted.

Just a reminder that a2rudeboy told me during the previous night phase that he did not want to replace out. Obviously if he doesn't post soon however, I'll start looking.

Refutes this:

@Mod: sidenote for future reference (I am a kick in the balls, sorry): it is not a good idea to let a day become night and then day again with an inactive player. Now we can easily assume that a2rudeboy & pacman are not scumbuddies, as one was jailed and the other was inactive. This is an information we can use, but the way we got it is not fair.

CKD asked me if I agree on the fact that jack's posts about insider-info on post-restr. are the reason why he was lynched.
My answer in German would be jain, so "a little yes and a little no", because there is a high chance that jack was also lynched to make me (us?) become even more convinced that a2rudeboy is in fact scum. I am being devoured by doubts right now.

How does jack's flip make it more likely that a2 is scum?

[lewarcher82]

it does not, again sorry if I did not explain myself. I mean that since Jack has been attacking a2rudeboy yesterday, this could be an attempt at framing a2rudeboy.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote a2rudeboy

quit lurking

[curiouskarmadog]

and who here is played with vollkan before?

lew, why would jack's death be an attempt to frame rude?...didnt jack say numerous times yesterday he thought I was scum?

[curiouskarmadog]

edit...who here HAS played with...

[curiouskarmadog]

actually

unvote

, until everyone has claimed

[vollkan]

it does not, again sorry if I did not explain myself. I mean that since Jack has been attacking a2rudeboy yesterday, this could be an attempt at framing a2rudeboy.

This sort of thinking, either way, just gets tangled in wifom. Jack's flip doesn't, and shouldn't, alter my opinion of a2.

and who here is played with vollkan before?

I think you're the only one

[LimMePls]

I haven't played with Vollkan before this.

I think Pacman was just dropped on his head as a baby, I don't necessarily think his current idiocy is scummy.

[LimMePls]

It seems to me the biggest question we have to ask ourselves is: Do we think the scum were in any of the neighborhoods. That plus looking at the PD wagon, plus rereading the game knowing PD's flip should prove beneficial, a reread is how I caught PD in the first place.

[LimMePls]

OH, and full claims from everyone please. Can someone make a chart for us with claims made and those who haven't claimed?

[a2rudeboy]

(shit, i thought i had posted this up last night)

Claim: VT.

We've already discussed how it's unlikely there are many vanilla roles in this game. I simply don't think there are two left. And the claim i least believe is..

vote:evilpacman

I don't think any of the neighbors are scum.

Also, why do we think there's two mafia left instead of one? Just the number of power-heavy town roles?

[evilpacman18]

You're voting for me because you think it's

unlikely

that I'm a VT in a large normal? Lol?