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What?andrew94 wrote:vote doom
hes a retard that doesnt realise that katsuki claimed with the mod
How did you get this out of his posts? There's nothing to indicate what you said is even slightest bit plausible. You just seem to be acting like scum jumping on an easy wagon instead of actually taking some time to compose even the slightest reasoning for your case.
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All 4 points have nothing to do with what I just said.andrew94 wrote:er... firstly, i am the first person to vote doom ( i think )
hes reason for voting me for crap -(saying i didnt what masons were)
i obs thought katsuki was claiming scum with mod (hence against rules)
and now u just jumped on my wagon
nice work
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malthusis wrote:@Mod: That VC is so wrong it's not even funny......
Either you want to help me, pointing out where the mistakes are, or you want to be modkilled, being a jerk with the mod. So, which one is it again?@Mod: Sorry if I seemed like a jerk. I'm not voting anyone, and andrew is voting me.
Andrew didn't unvote, and I guess I just missed your unvote as it wasn't at the start of a line.Last edited by Snow_Bunny on Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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DP:@Mod: I might just be blind and not have seen it, but what are your rules for prods?
Activity each 48 hours or prod. However, I usually forget to send the prods, so if you are willing to reming me, I will do it gladly.Last edited by Snow_Bunny on Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:31 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Lol, you contridicted yourself in your own sentencechesskid3 wrote:RVS is not over.Tsk tsk.
I was voting Narsis for a reaction.Didn't really get the one I was looking for, but his suggestion that he was going to do a VC analysis on page 4 of d1 is so ridiculously towncred fishing that I am happy with where my vote is.
RVS means "random" voting stage. You just put reason that wasn't random at all for your vote. Also, why are you so adamant in keeping it in the RVS stage as long as possible? The sooner we get into the real game and can analyze the reasoning behind player's actions, the sooner we can find out who the scum are. It seems weird that you'd want to prolong it.
FoS: chesskid
Still waiting on Katsuki to give an explanation on her mod connection thing *twiddles thumbs*
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Maybe you aren't the one reading? Pretty much everyone posting regularly has/had reasons for their votes (except AmbreoDeus, but he's only posted once besides his original confirm).chesskid3 wrote:Hi, you don't read much, do you? We're still in RVS now, and i'm clearly trying to get us OUT. Thanks for playing. You are the weakest link, goodbye!-
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Impatience? I might have gotten slightly annoyed, but considering I asked you 3 times in posts #53, 95, and 122, I was getting tired on waiting. Also, even an idiot would realize the davig claims were jokesKatsuki wrote:What impatience... I was reading the effing thread.
Malthusis, tell me this. What is the difference between 3 seperate players claiming dayvig, and me claiming "partners" with the mod?
If it means anything for you though, I am mason-lovers with snow_bunny I get to talk to her any time of the day.
I'm sorry, but there's not much I can do. Ambro did post in #89, and can't be prodded yet. I'm waiting for some information too, but unless you want to take a LAL stance (which I really don't want to do), I might as well question the people here.@Malthusis: Why do you only ask for my prod, when adumbro has posted absolutely nothing thus far in this game? Do you have reasons for wanting to let him slide and skate through this game?
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QFT.Katsuki wrote:
This is pretty much the same problem with YOU, gandalf, in that, you guys generally say and do such ridiculous things that, when you do it as scum, it STILL looks normal.gandalf5166 wrote:Chess is making me raise my eyebrow........... But I've played with him before, and this is all pretty normal stuff, so until he does something really drastic, my vote stays where it is.
In essence, what I am saying is, saying that "extraordinary" stuff is "pretty normal stuff" is kind of like throwing a smokescreen on your play.
It's really, really, really hard to make a case when it's hard to tell whether a lot of these bad plays are simply anti-town, scummy, or just VI.-
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?chesskid3 wrote:Uh, no, it was over because there was actually content to analyize, namely opportunistic votes on me based on the false assertation that pages 1-3 contained any actual content. The obvious point of that being that I was "supposed to" vote for Andrew, when he's done absolutely nothing scummy.
Hence why I figure one of the people voting for me is scum, since a negative reaction to not voting andrew is not pro-town.
Also Narsis needs to answer my questions.
ANY QUESTIONS?
What are you talking about?
How does Andrew have anything to do with this at all? Your paragraph looks like absolute junk. What do you mean by "You had to vote Andrew?". There were tons of people to make a case on at that time. You could have made a case on me, Gandalf, Katsuki, Narsis or any lurker that wasn't posting at that time. Using that as justification to randomly lash out at people voting you is extremely weak and thin as an argument.
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chesskid3 wrote:You didn't make any arguments, you basically said you didn't understand my posts.
The only notable thing that happened on pages 1-3 that everyone was touting the RVS being over about was Andrew apparently being scummy, when that was in fact completely false.
Hence my assertation that the RVS was not, in fact, over.
Please try to follow.
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What are you talking about?
How does Andrew have anything to do with this at all? Your paragraph looks like absolute junk. What do you mean by "You had to vote Andrew?".There were tons of people to make a case on at that time. You could have made a case on me, Gandalf, Katsuki, Narsis or any lurker that wasn't posting at that time. Using that as justification to randomly lash out at people voting you is extremely weak and thin as an argument.
Arguments are in bold.
Maybe you aren't the one reading?chesskid3 wrote:Hi, you don't read much, do you? We're still in RVS now, and i'm clearly trying to get us OUT. Thanks for playing. You are the weakest link, goodbye!Pretty much everyone posting regularly has/had reasons for their votes (except AmbreoDeus, but he's only posted once besides his original confirm).-
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It's just that something really rubs me about the way you phrased your role. I've been in quite a few Mind Screw/Weird Role games where the mod is indeed a role. It's practically a rule of thumb that a mod has to be neutral or self aligned if they are playing for many reasons such as mod bias and the like. The fact that a mod would be aligned with player has me scratching my head on how that could possibly work out....
Considering what you just said about the dayvig thing, I find it interesting that you should push for the "partners with the mod" thing 3 times after.Katsuki wrote:malthusis wrote:
Impatience? I might have gotten slightly annoyed, but considering I asked you 3 times in posts #53, 95, and 122, I was getting tired on waiting. Also, even an idiot would realize the davig claims were jokesKatsuki wrote:What impatience... I was reading the effing thread.
Malthusis, tell me this. What is the difference between 3 seperate players claiming dayvig, and me claiming "partners" with the mod?
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........Doombunny9 wrote:@Chess/Malt- Why are we still talking about the overness of the RVS? It's over. We can all agree on that. It doesn't matter when it was over anymore.
Are you actually buying this Kat obvjoke? Come on now.malt wrote:It's just that something really rubs me about the way you phrased your role. I've been in quite a few Mind Screw/Weird Role games where the mod is indeed a role. It's practically a rule of thumb that a mod has to be neutral or self aligned if they are playing for many reasons such as mod bias and the like. The fact that a mod would be aligned with player has me scratching my head on how that could possibly work out....
*bangs head on wall repeatedly*
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Unless you did something extremely retarded that would make people vote for you at a fast rate, I think it makes a difference. Except in the situation mentioned previously, pretty much every single player will wait for a lynch target to claim before taking them out, so unless your case is a totally lost cause (which it isn't), you should've waited until then.vezokpiraka wrote:@malthusius: Do you think it would have made a difference if I had claimed at L-2 or L-1 instead of L-3?-
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You aren't getting the point. Unless he/she did something that made them undeniably scum or it's a deadline lynch, almost all town players will wait for a claim before lynching. Ending a day early when deadline isn't immediate (and it's not the aforementioned condition) is a scummy move, as it deprives the town of the time that could be used to scumhunt.chesskid3 wrote:My point was that a quickhammer could be easily explained away by saying "I believed he was scum, and didn't want to have to wait to lynch him until tomorrow", and lynching him before he uses his governor shot is beneficial to town. And the truth is, there are people in this game I would quickhammer in the same situation. Not vezok, because I have a townread on him, but do you see my point?-
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Did a quick ISO of everyone a while ago, some quick thoughts:
AdumbroDeus: A few things strike me as odd about his play and posts so far.
He seems to be really focused on asking people for scum/town lists hunches, and it makes me think he's trying to blend to the background by simply larking the general consensus. His general view of the game list (ISO post #3) is mostly general stuff that the town in general believes (except an opinion about Katsuki, see below). His 3 stances are mainly talking about the RVS (pointless), defending himself, and bullying his points to get people to spout suspicion lists.
As well, I have gut feeling that Katsuki, but the fact that's he's posted so little that isn't fluff makes hard to find any evidence.
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I'm not really sure. Like I said, Katsuki is more gut right now, and I'm much much more sure of my case against Adumbro. It's just seems to be an interesting coincidence that the only difference from the general consensus/follow the crowd mentality is that point.Malthusis, do you think Adubro scum would put his buddy as one of only two townreads?
A gut feeling is just that, sort of a "hunch". You can't just say "XXXXXX is definitly scum, because I have a hunch BANDWAGON GOGOGOGO". You need solid proof to prove someone is scum. I have more proof and am more sure about Adumbro.OHOHOHO, THAT'S A NICE RICH CHAINSAW COMING FROM MALTHUSIS.
What's even better, he says he has a gut feeling about me, yet votes for my suspect? I THINK NOT!
Anyways, your vote against was a simple pressure vote around 12 pages ago? You didn't seem to invest a lot of effort into it and switched to the easy RBT wagon.
Narsis's post sort of proves another point against your argument. If you say I should vote you because I have hunch and suspect you, then why aren't you voting me for my so called "scummy" actions?Narsis wrote:
if you are suspecting Malthusis so much why vote RBT?Katsuki wrote:I promise a post is incoming tonight.
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OHOHOHO, THAT'S A NICE RICH CHAINSAW COMING FROM MALTHUSIS.
What's even better, he says he has a gut feeling about me, yet votes for my suspect? I THINK NOT!
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This is more of an afterthought, but it's sort of ironic that RBT is doing something close to this right nowA gut feeling is just that, sort of a "hunch". You can't just say "XXXXXX is definitly scum, because I have a hunch BANDWAGON GOGOGOGO". You need solid proof to prove someone is scum. I have more proof and am more sure about Adumbro.-
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^^Narsis wrote:
O.o i thought it was just a pressure wagon. when you'd change your mind to making it a lynching wagon?chesskid3 wrote:I'm just going to stop listening to andrew. However I promise if you use a watch action on me you won't regret it. I OFFER DELICIOUS MAGIC.
That being said, why is my RBT wagon falling apart. Fuck you people we're lynching him-
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Absolute BS. I asked the mod the same question about triggered abilities and they said that they are passive free abilities. You can use 1 active ability at night and any triggered abilities will still activate.Riceballtail wrote:I'm a generalist (or universalist), though I feel like I should be an Illusionist from having two spells from there.
chesskid3 wrote:more questions:
Triggered means automatically triggered? If you are targetted to be killed and tried to you a different action, what happens? do you perform both actions and live and kill your vig target, do you die and kill your target, or is your action changed to false visions and you don't shoot but survive?
Invisibility is self only?Yes. I can only cast one spell per night, but I won't "cast" it unless I'm attacked at night. Thus, it's like choosing to be bulletproof, should I be targeted.
Honestly, Chess' blatant rolefishing has got to stop either way. If I use my vig, that's where it's going.
@Narsis: That's all he's really done to me all game. I wouldn't hold your breath.
If this is my last chance to post, I strongly suggest looking at the following as scum: Chess, Vezok, and one of (Narsis/Adumbro/Katsuki). The first two read "scumbuddies4life", and the other three are the ones I'm interested in getting some more out of, and can't decide which is the most likely remaining partner.
It sort of seems like a gambit to waste any town vig shots in a last gambit to hold on to your scummy life.
PEDit: I was about to vote, but Gandalf voted before me
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I was thinking more of the fact he'd use the scum kill to make the illusion that he was town.gandalf5166 wrote:
Why do you think he's a godfather? I mean, he could have that same kind of function, where he could keep PRs at bay, but godfather isn't the word I'd use. He's more like a cross between a roleblocker and a GF. BTW, I think his vig shot is bullshit.vezokpiraka wrote:WAAAAAAIIIIT.
Anyone see what I am seeing in the claim of RBT. I think he is a godfather.
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The fact that my two cases are either gone on V/LA or lurking really slows this down... (Katsuki and AdumbroDeus)Narsis wrote:
how astute of you.chesskid3 wrote:Oh basically Narsis just softclaimed VT. Whee.
Moving along, Katsuki owes me a nice protown post to get his townread back.
tbh this game is starting to feel like a game of follow the cop.-
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It's sort of depressing that I'm going to have to go back to square one one my main case because of the replacement and that I'm never going to get an answer from the original poster *grumble*malthusis wrote:Did a quick ISO of everyone a while ago, some quick thoughts:
AdumbroDeus: A few things strike me as odd about his play and posts so far.
He seems to be really focused on asking people for scum/town lists hunches, and it makes me think he's trying to blend to the background by simply larking the general consensus. His general view of the game list (ISO post #3) is mostly general stuff that the town in general believes (except an opinion about Katsuki, see below). His 3 stances are mainly talking about the RVS (pointless), defending himself, and bullying his points to get people to spout suspicion lists.
As well, I have gut feeling that Katsuki, but the fact that's he's posted so little that isn't fluff makes hard to find any evidence.
Vote AdubroDeus
Oh well, I'm going toVote: AdumbroDeusfor reasons previously stated anyways since neither competing wagon appeals to me right now.
Side Note: A quick glance at DH's abilities seem to say they're way too OP and the fact he claimed way too early raises some eyebrows, but on the other hand having a DV shot, a mini tree-stump shot, and an additional vote shot seem to not make sense with scum either.....-
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*massive facepalm*Katsuki wrote:God I have a lot to catch up on. I will having finals over the next two weeks, so do not expect uberactiveness.
That said, has malthusis started scumhunting yet? If not, then you guys should consider looking at him.
A summary of what has happened end of D1/entirety of D2 would be nice.-
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I have a gut scum read on Katsuki, but the fact he hasn't posted anything substantial for 10 days (night included) makes it very hard to pick out anything in particular.Doombunny9 wrote:@Malt- Care to say anything else? You're still not scumhunting whch bothers me (And no, voting Adumbro for "reasons stated previously" isn't scumhunting). What do you think of players other than Adumbro? Who do you think is most scummy other than Adumbro and why?
Narsis has been acting like a sheep for most of the game, whether it's sheepish town or scum trying to blend in I'm not really sure.
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Your summary of my post is pretty ironic, considering your entire strategy for the second half of the game is "Oh, I'll poke malthusis occasionally and maybe throw in a crap logic argument every so often to make it look like I'm not actually blending into the background because I'm EPICALLY SCUM."Katsuki wrote:Basically provided a post with 0 reads.
Summary of what malthusis said:
My gut says katsuki is scum, but I have no idea.
Narsis is sheeping, but I'm not sure if thats scum, or town.
I will refer to previous post for DH.
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Here's an example:Katsuki wrote:Ironic? You're the one fencesitting and leaving all sorts of backdoors, not me.
I'd love if you pointed out the supposed crap logic you're accusing me of as well, instead of, ya know, flailing and mud-flinging.
You throw out chainsaw defense without it having any meaning whatsoever to the situation to form up a resemblance of a case.Katsuki wrote:I promise a post is incoming tonight.
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OHOHOHO, THAT'S A NICE RICH CHAINSAW COMING FROM MALTHUSIS.
What's even better, he says he has a gut feeling about me, yet votes for my suspect? I THINK NOT!
Unvote, Vote RBT
Thanks for saying better what I was trying to say with my post.....Isn't it ironic that Kat is voting for Malt because he isn't scumhunting, when she isn't scumhunting much either?-
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Not really, Katsuki's voting me as a reaction to me having a case against him, you seem to be voting me because I'm lurking, and vezok's voting me because he's a VI (or trying to pretend to be one to get the vote in). There's not really a coherent, solid case against me and there's not that much to react to.chesskid3 wrote:Mal, any comment on the fact that you're at L-2?-
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..... Didn't notice the latest two votes.
Honestly, if your only case against someone is "We're vigging the person we really want gone", shouldn't you actually try scumhunting instead? (This isn't even counting all the variables such as RB's, doc's, etc) There's so many ways this can go wrong so easily, and even it somehow works out, what's stopping every single town vig from wasting their shots on one guy and leaving us with none at all?-
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This is another reason I think the case against me has gone so far. I'm practically the only person who hasn't followed the bandwagon, and the second I don't, I get pestered by Katsuki......chesskid3 wrote:Because half of you are lurking, and half of you are just sheeping me. I might sound confident in my reads, but really, this is kind of annoying having to do this with no real input from 2 slots, along with 2 slots just sheeping me.
Actually, know that I think about it, that's actually pretty scummy!
Technically since everyone is following you chess, as long as your band wagon is going into a dead end town (which scum would obviously know about) all scum have to do is sheep along.
Katsuki would seem pretty scummy if she was scum trying to dissuade me from picking different wagons of his own scum buddies because he knew that everyone would simple "follow the chesskid".
Plus, Adumbro isn't here anyways, so there's no point in voting him.
Had a few more thoughts, but don't have time to type them, will try to post later.
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Continuation off of my last post:
Also, it strikes me as odd that when Katsuki votes Adumbro as a pressure vote (probably to bus) because of him lurking, yet he suddenly attacks me when I decide to vote him. When you're pressuring people, doesn't it make sense that you'd want more votes?
Before I claim, I still want to know exactly: What is the case against me? Why do you think I'm scummy? It seems I'm being hanged just because Narsis isn't going to get lynched today (a extremely weird plan which Gandalf even admits might not work). Basically everyone's yelling SCUMSCUMSCUM and pretty much no one's provided any reasons for why they want me gone.
And really, if this is the reason for the lynch:
I have been providing stances on who I think is scummy, especially in the last few posts.Katsuki wrote:Basically provided a post with 0 reads.
Summary of what malthusis said:
My gut says katsuki is scum, but I have no idea.
Narsis is sheeping, but I'm not sure if thats scum, or town.
I will refer to previous post for DH.
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Why DH, andrew? Why do you not believe his claim?
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