Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over

[UncertainKitten]

This is the only reason you need to vote Lowell

Vote Lowell

[UncertainKitten]

Xine, on the whole, needs to post more. She'd edged into scummy without a strong enough "Hi I'm scum" post for me to demand her lynch yet.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: UncertainKitten

Your play is terrible. I don't think you've been scum for a very long time because you're rusty as hell.

[UncertainKitten]

Ah, glad to see Nacho is wrong as usual ^-^. Feels like old times.

[Haylen]

NACHOMAMMA!

*tackles and hugs*

[Nachomamma8]

HAYL :DDD
Help me lynch UK. Because this scum isn't going to go easily.

[LimMePls]

My case on Antihero (and Azazel by association) is best understood by this sequence of posts:

Azazel: how many games have you played here?

Enough. It's been a while though.

I can't believe how much idiocy I'm seeing demonstrated by some of the players. No, I'm not talking about the humor. Jack's claim was idiotic but not scummy. I think Glork has already pointed out why and I don't feel the need to spell it out again.

Vote: antihero

clearly someone isn't reading the game. I checked back and he's the only person who didn't comment in any way, shape, or form on the Jack situation so it's a good place to start.

I don't want him lynched but I think I need to see where this goes.

(Notice "I don't want him lynched, but I think I need to see where this goes". SCUMMY!)

LOL! Quote tags.

Vote: antihero

clearly someone isn't reading the game. I checked back and he's the only person who didn't comment in any way, shape, or form on the Jack situation so it's a good place to start.

I don't want him lynched but I think I need to see where this goes.

I had to make that random vote. In a previous game, Haylen gave me a post restriction where I could only post in barks. I needed revenge. And no, I didn't read the thread before I posted.

As for Jack, I'm with UK on that issue.

UNVOTE:

Glork: If you're town, do you think it was a good idea to go around telling everyone what a great idea it would be for scum to shoot Jack tonight?

Crap flinging much?

Post 57 = deflection fail

VOTE: Nikanor

What's up with this, Jack?
And why is LMP nitpicking at the most minor point in what makes Nik scummy?

(Notice Antihero bending over backwards to appease the person voting him, followed by completely unoriginal statements/opinions that were not scum hunting at all ie. "I think what UK thinks", along with IMO terrible Nikanor vote)

Unvote
Vote: Antihero

This is better.

LynchMePls's vote on Antihero may be the scummiest thing he's done all game.

Unvote
Vote: LynchMePls

I didn't see anything inherently scummy in his one post that would warrant wagoning on him. In fact, the timing of LMP's vote is bizarre, given that my earlier vote on him was based on his lack of posting beyond the RVS, especially past a point where serious shit was occurring. I mean, it really looks like bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning and hoping that everyone follows along.

I'm not sold on a Nikanor/LMP pairing yet.

LOL! Simply LOL! This is absolutely hysterical. Pay particular attention to the context here, this post is less than 4 hours after his previous one (the one I quote above). Once I start pushing him over this issue, Azazel gives us 2 more posts, and then does his vanishing act with unanswered questions from me. Very convenient.

I'm pretty sure they are both scum.

Vote: Antihero

[Nachomamma8]

(Notice "I don't want him lynched, but I think I need to see where this goes". SCUMMY!)

How is this scummy? He's saying that he wants to see why he didn't comment on the Jack claim. That's logical enough; hell, I would even call it pro-town that he was the first one to notice Antihero was the only person to avoid commenting on Jack's {Cop, Doctor} claim.

Notice Antihero bending over backwards to appease the person voting him

This isn't even close to a partner tell. Why would Antihero be concerned about appeasing his scumbuddy? Honestly, I don't see how this is "bending over backwards", either. He explained his vote, like he was asked to do. He didn't buddy up at all, he didn't do anything extra, he just explained himself.

followed by completely unoriginal statements/opinions that were not scum hunting at all ie. "I think what UK thinks"

You know, there's only so many stances you can take on a P1 claim. "Yes, I believe the claim". "No, I don't believe the claim.". "I don't know what to think about the claim". So of COURSE his opinion is going to be unoriginal. Also, what statements are you talking about? I only see one.

Once I start pushing him over this issue, Azazel gives us 2 more posts, and then does his vanishing act with unanswered questions from me. Very convenient.

Are you using flaking as a scumtell? REALLY?
There's no way in hell your questions were so pressuring and accurate and good that you made him quit. Sorry, you're not that good.

[UncertainKitten]

Yeah, I don't see anything to the Antihero case, LMP.

[Nachomamma8]

Case on UK is coming tomorrow.
LMP is scum with her, but we're lynching her first because she's the bigger fish to fry.

Nikanor is town.
Haylen is town.
Lowell is town.
Antihero is town.

Glork, Sudo, Jack, and AGar are probably town.

...leaving mothrax, RC, Xine, Emp, VV, and eld. Not bad.

[Antihero]

LMP's case = hilarious epicfail.

nacho, I eagerly await the UK case.

[UncertainKitten]

Too bad Lowell is scum. And the majority of your reads are silly as all hell anyway.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: Of course, this can be expected of Nacho. Let's hope he doesn't *insist* on things even in endgame where things should be clear to all but the most casual of observers. You know, like other games we've been in together.

[Nikanor]

The SK is probably one of Antihero, eldarad and Xine for reasons that I'd rather not get into right now.

Let's start with Xine, since she has a decent chance of being either one.

Vote: Xine.

[UncertainKitten]

Why are you SK hunting Nikanor? I can think of things, but I'd rather hear what you have to say.

[Nikanor]

In the last Picking Simplicity game I played (link), we got bitten hard for not lynching the SK until day five. I don't really want to see that happening again.
Plus, I've narrowed down the potential SKs to three people, so y'know. If we can get the SK to claim, we can use him as a vig and get two lynches for the price of one.

[UncertainKitten]

OK. That's actually better than I thought it would be.

Though I'll admit I don't see what an SK has to gain by claiming in this set up. Perhaps you can elucidate me, having played Picking before?

[Nikanor]

If the SK is asked to claim, he has three options:
a) Claim vanilla townie. He's lynched for it and loses immediately.
b) Claim a power role. He's counter-claimed and loses either that day or the next.
c) Claim serial killer. This is the only chance he has at winning, because this way he can make it to a kingmaker scenario.

With any of these three, the outlook is bleak for him if he is forced to claim, but the only way he has a chance of winning is by claiming SK.

[UncertainKitten]

True enough. Damn it's been awhile since I played opens. Not wrappan my brain around claim theory as easily.

Anyway, I'm hesitant to drop Lowell....

[Nikanor]

You look like you want to be convinced.

[UncertainKitten]

I don't like SK hunting. In most games, I'd oppose it vehemently. I think it better to tear through the scum and then take care of third parties. While you've demonstrated why SK hunting is better, it's hard to repress my impulse to get Lowell scum lynched *now*

[Nikanor]

Xine has a decent chance of being either SK or mafia, though. I doubt Lowell is SK. I don't see any reason for why Lowell would kill the guy he was voting at the end of d1.

[UncertainKitten]

Right, I feel Lowell is mafia. Fairly obvious mafia.

I agree Xine looks scummy, just not as scummy as Lowell. Regardless...I think for the time being I can accept an Xine lynch.

Unvote, Vote Xine

I WOULD like her to post more though.

[CJMiller]

Bah.

Go town.

[AGar]

VOTE: Haylen

She's done nothing this game that helps us. Only blithered random bullshit and essentially claimed she couldn't scumhunt D1, which is bullshit.