Mini 1070 The Godfather:Hunt for Sollozzo (GAME!)

[Zajnet]

Zajnet deserves this for #348.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zajnet

Wingless seems to be a dead end for now, but my point still stands on his wishy-washiness.

I assume you mean #358

Please elaborate as to why you think I should be voted.

[gandalf5166]

Oh, did he? I watched the movie only once, a long time ago. >.> But still, he's not with Sollozzo, is he?

[Andrius]

Votecount 2.2

Exilon (1): gandalf5166
FakeGod (2): Antihero, Wingless
Antihero (1): FakeGod
Katsuki (1): RedCoyote
gandalf5166 (1): Zajnet
Zajnet (2): Katsuki, Exilon

Not Voting (1): pacman291282

With 9 alive it takes 5 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set t November 23rd, at 5:00pm PST.

Sorry for the long gap in between votecounts. I got busy.

Prod Check Indicates:
Antihero gets prodded

Tomorrow

pacman281292 gets prodded

Today

[pacman281292]

Great. Prodded.
I've gotten busy this week due to exams, so I don't have much time to make a reread. I'll make a better reread tomorrow (the format I've been taking has sucked).

[RedCoyote]

You may post "it" again.

This is the only post where you ever asked a non-rhetorical, game related question of someone else, and you never did anything with it. I hope everyone can let the full impact of that sink in. Kat has only asked one real question during this entire game, and she never did anything with the answer at all.

I confronted you with it here, but you ignored me. Then SC voted you, and that finally got you to make a post. What a surprise; it was an attack on SC for "misreading" you. Every time someone has something critical to say about you, you throw it back in their face. That sort of antagonism may benefit scum (e.g. "Don't you dare say anything bad about me or I'll attack you right back!"), but it's usually not the best approach for townies. Most townies realize that the majority of players aren't out to "misread" anyone. They're trying to come to the best conclusion they can with the facts they have. Do you really think that SC and I were trying to purposefully frame you? No, Kat, you put yourself in that position. SC's flip should be some sort of a wake up call in that regard.

[Antihero]

I've gotten busy this week due to exams, so I don't have much time to make a reread. I'll make a better reread tomorrow (

the format I've been taking has sucked

).

While I appreciate your effort, yes it has.

You're still one of my scumreads from yesterday, BTW.

[FakeGod]

waiting for Exilon to respond to Zajnet.

Gandalf's claiming miller is fine. Isn't the site meta here for millers is to claim right away anyways?

pacman is busy as usual apparently.

@Wingless: I'm not assuming anything.

@People who are "busy": please leave 2 - 3 players you are willing to lynch at least the next time you post, k?

[gandalf5166]

I'm honestly horrified that BV hadn't claimed yet.
That said, my reads have changed since the beginning of the day.
I'd be willing to lynch:
Katsuki
Zajnet
Exilon

At any point today.

[Wingless]

Now I rerad this thing. My last 2 days were horrible.

[Wingless]

Gandalf, could you explain your reads?

Everyone: I have the reads I said in
viewtopic.php?p=2593002#p2593002
until I say something else. I couldn't really change them.

Zajnet is my second suspect now(he's almost as suspicious to me as FG). For the reasons said there+:
He doesn't seem to be doing anything. Anything! He voted gandalf for active lurking. He couldn't cath up, that's why he hasn't posted much recently, or that was said by gandalf. I don't see him hunting scum intensively. He didn't say anything about anyone but gandalf and me. He must have had a read on somebody. Or he didn't read the thread because scum don't need to hunt intensively.
I am waiting your reasons against me and a read on everybody, or you are going to get my vote.

Ok. I told you Zajnet to attack somebody or I'll vote you.
What are your opinion? I want everybody to answer this. Especially Zajnet.

Unvote
Vote: Zajnet.

Come on people force him to claim(he's L-2 now)!

[gandalf5166]

Unvote
VOTE: Zajnet

[Andrius]

Votecount 2.3

FakeGod (1): Antihero
Antihero (1): FakeGod
Katsuki (1): RedCoyote
gandalf5166 (1): Zajnet

Zajnet (4): Katsuki, Exilon, Wingless, gandalf5166

Not Voting (1): pacman291282

With 9 alive it takes 5 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set at November 23rd, at 5:00pm PST.

[Katsuki]

Gandalf, if you have any reasons for wanting to lynch me, I would love to hear it.

[FakeGod]

The wagon composition seems pretty legit.

Zajnet you gonna defend/claim?

[Andrius]

Woops, I have Zajnet down as voting for himself instead of gandalf. Fixing now.

[Zajnet]

I'm not going to claim to this bullshit wagon. It's actually starting to piss me off.
@Wingless: I'm attacking Gandalf. Maybe you don't like that because you're his scumbuddy? Happy now? I'm attacking you too.

FoS: Wingless

@Gandalf: You should provide reasons with your vote as opposed to barning other people

Confirm Vote

@FakeGod: There's nothing to defend against, and I'm not going to claim to this. Claiming would acknowledge the legitimacy of the wagon, which I do not.

[Antihero]

The wagon composition seems pretty legit.

Zajnet (4): Katsuki,

Exilon

, Wingless, gandalf5166

Let's examine who mafia might kill.

mafia kills can be fairly case-by-case different (more so in a theme game), but for early kills, especially for n1 kills, mafia tend to eliminate town who are attacking the mafia members, defending town, and overall doing the right things and getting in mafia's way. This makes sense even against WIFOM because the alternative of leaving people who are pushing/defending the right guys alive for WIFOM purposes is only going to raise the chances that mafia members will be lynched.

I believe Thor has been shot by the mafia. This means that there's a high chance that Thor was doing the above things.

Things Thor have done: (I took out Thor-SC interaction)
ISO 3-17: Thor moves out of RVS and votes pacman.
ISO 18-26: Thor votes RC. Thor gets involved in FG and RC's argument about putting RVS vote on the highest wagon.
ISO 27-31: Thor begins to lean town on RC. Thor mildly supports FG.
ISO 32-37: Thor votes and encourage a wagon on Bub.
ISO 38: Thor criticizes Exilon.
ISO 39-46: Thor warns FG not to use ellipses. Thor is pretty sure that RC is town and discourages the RC wagon. Thor pushes repeatedly on Exilon.
ISO 47-49: Thor says hello to Gandalf.

Conclusion: pacman and/or

Exilon is probably mafia

, and FG and/or RC is probably town.

I'm not going to post my analysis for the vig kill since I rather not give hints to mafia who vig might be.

[Exilon]

I assume you mean #358

Please elaborate as to why you think I should be voted.

You assume right. Sorry for that error :s

Your post contains ABSOLUTELY no content, it works to take off some pressure by forcing you to take a stance to which youa ren't willing to commit. You were asked your top scum reads, (basically) and your answer was, simply put, "Gandalf because of what people have been saying so far." It's completely unhelpful, has a bit of parroting, extreme wishy-washiness, and unexplained reads.

You need to do more. Hence the vote. But I do not want you dead. Yet. The pressure is good enough for now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gandalf

I AM GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN: SUPPORT YOUR READS.

[Exilon]

EDBWOP: That quote is by Zajnet.

[FakeGod]

@Antihero: Thanks for telling me that it's possible to have mafia members vote each other. (pretty legit doesn't mean All-Town-100%-GUARANTEED)

Your attempt at soft-defending Zajnet by attacking me is noted.

Having said that, Exilon just conveniently jumped off Zajnet wagon. Now, what does that tell you?

Unvote, Vote: Zajnet

[RedCoyote]

Zaj, you should claim. I'm very prepared to hammer this. If I can't get Kat then I'll surely take Zaj today.

If Zaj is town then Kat and FG must be scrutinized.
If Zaj is scum then one of Kat/FG is probably bussing, the other scum I'm going to have to thinking harder about (Antihero, Exilon, or Wingless most likely).

I would really like to hear more from pacman before we finish the day though...

[Katsuki]

If Zaj is town then Kat and FG must be scrutinized.

If Zaj is scum then one of Kat/FG is probably bussing, the other scum I'm going to have to thinking harder about (Antihero, Exilon, or Wingless most likely).

I would really like to hear more from pacman before we finish the day though...

"OH HAI LEMME CLEAN MY HANDS ON THIS ONE IF ZAJ FLIPS TOWN KBAI GUYZ"


Really love this post. If Zaj flips town, look at kat and FG. If Zaj flips scum, still look at kat and FG.

[FakeGod]

@RC: Kat's right. It seems like you already made up your mind that FG/Kat is scum no matter what Zaj flips.

Then why push Zaj lynch at all?

[Antihero]

@Antihero: Thanks for telling me that it's possible to have mafia members vote each other. (pretty legit doesn't mean All-Town-100%-GUARANTEED)

Your attempt at soft-defending Zajnet by attacking me is noted.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was the defense soft? Here let me rectify that: Zajnet is probably town, you and Kat are scum. There, I said it. What now?

[gandalf5166]

I think that the difference was that if Zaj was scum, then only one of them is scum. And if he was town, they were both scum.

That said, I already told you guys RC was scum.