@ Admiral: Did you miss the part where I said I'd post a more substantive post sometime today?
werewolf555
His attacks and votes struck me as newb scum, having a field day, trying to be "helpful" and join the party and get someone lynched, rather than newb townie actually trying to find mafia.
For example, this first actual serious vote of his, which had some ridiculous reasoning:
werewolf555 wrote:
This is quite a strange defense. He ate a trunk full of psilocybin???????
This is the dumbest thing that I have ever heard, seems like a scum buddy is trying to stick up for another.
Vote: Gonzoooo
But this post was the one that made me go, "zow, scum!"
werewolf555 wrote:Perhaps we should lynch Consig, and move from there on to (if he is scum) his most obvious scumbuddies should be lynched the following day.
The sheeping was blatant, and the way it was worded set off additional triggers, though I'm still having a hard time quantifying why.
The "we" is also a potential scumslip, implicating both him and lew, but it could also just be him talking to the whole town, suggesting a strategy that folks could take.
mallowgeno
Also suspicious to me because of quick sheeping is mallow, with his "I agree with DJ" post. Didn't find his apologetic backing off any better, and if anything, MORE suspicious.
mallowgeno wrote:The only reason I voted lewarcher was to humor Don.
unvote
I hate the rvs.
And what's with "humoring Don"? Why should he care what Don thought? Was there any reason for him to follow/humor Don over someone else?
His other posts have been throwaway comments, contributing nothing. At least werewolf sometimes actually tries to argue things.
I'm OK voting for either of these guys; both have been doing the "active lurker" thing (mallow moreso than werewolf). My argument for wolf is currently more subjective than my argument for mallow, so I'll
Vote: mallow
for now, so that I can at least get an opinion on record here.
Lewark
Reasons for initial gut town read:
* I thought his distinction between DJ's and mallow's vote was completely legitimate. DJ offered a reason; mallow sheeped without offering one. Not sure what's so hard about this. See
sapo's posts;they express my own thoughts pretty well.
* Learning that English was not lew's first language inclined me to give him the benefit of the doubt in a lot of cases, particularly his own use of caustic language, and his frustrated and confusing reaction to some attacks.
* Because I thought the DJ/mallow vote distinction was a legitimate point, I didn't think Gonzoooo's first attack was legitimate. And this colored my view of the later lew/Gonz interaction. I've seen bold mafia lead the town on a ring-around-the-rosie before, and was more afraid of being taken in by Gonzoooo than by anyone else. I've also seen bold players hound people, and take the hounded player's negative reactions as proof of the rightness of their case. Confirmation bias, or whatever. Heck, Gonzooo made the point himself about some people being VI/easy lynches. And due to the things mentioned above, this was how I was reading lew.
Current position: null read. The "English-as-a-second-language" mess is a bunch of white noise that I'm having a
lot
of difficulty screening out. Until I find a way to properly quantify how much influence the language difference should on my reads, I have zero confidence in any conclusions I've reached about lew.
Gonzoooo
I'd obviously have to die to prove it, but Gonzoooo was right, and Consig was "confused town," not mafia. And stepping out and preventing the lynch of a VI isn't something scum has much motivation to do. Sure, I can think of an instance or two where it would make sense, but the odds are low enough that I'll mark Gonzo's defense of Consig as a strong towntell, until something proves otherwise.
