Magician's Mafia: The Hypnotists, Game Over

[Katsuki]

I wonder.

1-shot ability, and we are not in lylo. You tell me what is wrong with that. (hint: Why is rolefishing scummy?)

[Katsuki]

Also, stop avoiding the questions. That's twice you've dodged out of my question. I also want to hear your thoughts on the "whole dealio" as spy said.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Toogeloo, your question to the mod is answered in the rules. First come, first served. As it currently stands, DGb will be lynched instead of Katsuki since DGb has been at 3 votes for a while now whereas Katsuki hasn't.

[Toogeloo]

Don't know why I missed that. I feel dumb since I have been up to snuff on the rules thus far >_>.

[SpyreX]

You're gonna actually ask him what my dealio is with you after not even pretending to answer it?

And you still haven't explained how those roles can't exist together

Unvote, Vote: Kat

There, now if DGB is going up its gonna be on the back of something.

[Katsuki]

What?

I suppose those roles CAN exist together, I just find it unlikely. Spy, considering how long you've been around, you should know how easy it'd be to fake "hypnotize-detector".

Also, this wagon on me is terrible. If I get lynched before I get home, make sure you guys revisit wagon, it is guarenteed scum-loaded.

[Katsuki]

Also, tasky is by FAR scummier than DGB. But now tasky is tied to DGB. Hence, why I did not go for tasky lynch is because tasky alignment tells us nothing about DGB. However, DGB flipping town confirms tasky, and will put us in a VERY good position D6.

My lynch will be bad for town.

[Toogeloo]

Kat, your lynch is pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. DGB isn't going to vote for herself, so you would need some people to unvote you which would require you to make a case.

[Toogeloo]

Also... why did it take 36 hours to deadline to get as much activity as we did today?

[Katsuki]

I can't make a case while in class, my multi-tasking skills only go so far...

EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

P-edit: BECAUSE WE HAVE SCUM THAT NEED TO GET A COUNTER-WAGON GOING???

IF ANYTHING, DGB LYNCH GIVES US EVEN MORE INFO NOW, AS IF SHE FLIPS SCUM WE KNOW THAT HER PARTNER WAS RUNNING SHENANIGANS.

YOU GUYS ALSO KEEP FORGETTING THAT ELLI IS STILL IN THIS GAME AS WELL.

[Katsuki]

Also, for those who have never played with DGB before.

Her 3 posts addressed to the 3 voters on her wagon was very survivalistic. That is not like town-DGB at all. AT ALL. WHICH POINTS TO A VERY POSSIBLE SCUM-ELLI IF DGB FLIPS SCUM. (Elli is not a stranger to DGB)

[Toogeloo]

Alright then, let's get on with it.

Unvote
Vote: Katsuki

Not my primary preference, but I have hopes.

[Katsuki]

Erg.

I wanted to hold off on this, but meh.

ROleclaim: Magician Roleblocker

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

10.) If you notice there has been a lynch, stop posting.

[petroleumjelly]

Day Five Vote Count #4

5 Katsuki (Ellibereth, Tasky, GhostWriter, SpyreX, Toogeloo)
2 DrippingGoofball (Cogito Ergo Sum, Katsuki)
1 Cogito Ergo Sum (DrippingGoofball)

With

8

alive it takes

5

to lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is November 10, 10:30 p.m. CST.

Not Voting – 0 – Nobody

~

Katsuki, Magician Roleblocker, has been lynched!

It is now

Night Five

. Deadline for night choices is November 13 at 10:30 p.m. CDT.

[petroleumjelly]

Tasky, Magician, has been killed!

It is now

Day Six

. With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is November 30, 1:45 p.m. CST.

[DrippingGoofball]

I targeted someone who was hypnotized. Thus another townie is confirmed.

Scumz are here:
Ellibereth, SpyreX, Toogeloo

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE again

Day 1

3

MehPlusRawr

(

Fate

,

DrippingGoofball

, Toogeloo)
1

danakillsu

(

Razgriz

)
1

Fate

(

Antihero

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 9 – SpyreX,

budja

,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

gandalf5166

,

GhostWriter

,

Katsuki

,

MehPlusRawr

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

5

MehPlusRawr

(

DrippingGoofball

,

gandalf5166

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Razgriz

,

danakillsu

)
1

Tasky

(

Katsuki

)
1

Fate

(

Antihero

)
1

gandalf5166

(

Fate

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 6 – SpyreX,

budja

, Ellibereth,

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Toogeloo

5

gandalf5166

(

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

DrippingGoofball

,

danakillsu

)
2

Fate

(

Antihero

,

gandalf5166

)
1

Katsuki

(

budja

)
1

MehPlusRawr

(

Razgriz

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 5 – SpyreX, Ellibereth,

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

DrippingGoofball

,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

)
2

Fate

(

Antihero

,

gandalf5166

)
1

danakillsu

(

GhostWriter

)
1

Katsuki

(

budja

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 3 – SpyreX,

MehPlusRawr

, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

DrippingGoofball

,

danakillsu

,

Razgriz

, Ellibereth)
2

Fate

(

Antihero

,

gandalf5166

)
1 SpyreX (

MehPlusRawr

)
1

danakillsu

(

GhostWriter

)
1

Katsuki

(

budja

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 2 – SpyreX, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

DrippingGoofball

,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

)
2

Fate

(

Antihero

,

gandalf5166

)
1

danakillsu

(

GhostWriter

)
1

Katsuki

(

budja

)
1

Razgriz

(

MehPlusRawr

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 2 – SpyreX, Toogeloo

8

gandalf5166

(

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

DrippingGoofball

,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

, Toogeloo)
1

danakillsu

(

GhostWriter

)
1

Fate

(

gandalf5166

)
1

Katsuki

(

budja

)
1

Razgriz

(

MehPlusRawr

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 2 –

Antihero

, SpyreX

Day 2

5

danakillsu

(

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Toogeloo,

Antihero

,

Razgriz

)
1 SpyreX (Ellibereth)
1

Razgriz

(

Katsuki

)
1 Toogeloo (

danakillsu

)
Not Voting – 5 –

Tasky

, SpyreX,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

6

Razgriz

(

Katsuki

,

danakillsu

,

Antihero

,

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Ellibereth)
2

danakillsu

(Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 5 –

Tasky

, SpyreX,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

5

Razgriz

(

danakillsu

,

Antihero

,

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Ellibereth)
2

danakillsu

(Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 6 –

Tasky

, SpyreX,

Katsuki

,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

7

Razgriz

(

danakillsu

,

Antihero

,

GhostWriter

,

MehPlusRawr

, Ellibereth, Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 6 – SpyreX,

Katsuki

,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Tasky

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

Day 3

2

danakillsu

(

Katsuki

,

MehPlusRawr

)
1 SpyreX (

Cogito Ergo Sum

)
Not Voting – 9 –

Antihero

, SpyreX,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

GhostWriter

,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Tasky

, Toogeloo

5

danakillsu

(

Katsuki

,

MehPlusRawr

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

, Ellibereth,

budja

)
1

Katsuki

(

danakillsu

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 5 –

Antihero

, SpyreX ,

DrippingGoofball

,

GhostWriter

, Toogeloo

7

danakillsu

(

Katsuki

,

MehPlusRawr

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

, Ellibereth,

budja

,

DrippingGoofball

, Toogeloo)
1

Katsuki

(

danakillsu

)
1 Toogeloo (

Tasky

)
Not Voting – 3 –

Antihero

, SpyreX ,

GhostWriter

Day 4

6

Antihero

(SpyreX, Toogeloo,

DrippingGoofball

, Ellibereth,

MehPlusRawr

,

Antihero

)
2 SpyreX (

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Katsuki

)
1

Cogito Ergo Sum

(

GhostWriter

)
1 Ellibereth (

Tasky

)

Day 5

3

DrippingGoofball

(

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Katsuki

, Toogeloo)
2

Cogito Ergo Sum

(

DrippingGoofball

,

GhostWriter

)
2

Katsuki

(Tasky, Ellibereth)
Not Voting – 1 – SpyreX

5

Katsuki

(Ellibereth,

Tasky

, GhostWriter, SpyreX, Toogeloo)
2

DrippingGoofball

(

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Katsuki

)
1

Cogito Ergo Sum

(

DrippingGoofball

)


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DAY 1

SpyreX is almost certainly scum as he refrained from hopping on the late gandalf wagon where two of his buddies had parked their vote.

DAY 2

5 danakillsu (GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Toogeloo, Antihero, Razgriz) - I doubt that the 3 last players on this wagon are all scum. Which causes Toogie to lean town, and Elli and SpyreX to be scum again. The final Razgriz wagon had 2 scums on it, with probably SpyreX holding back.

DAY 3

danakilsu wagon again, Elli or Toogie are scum.
Yeah, continuing on, I recall that Toogie confirmed Ghostwriter or some such. Yet neither has been killed. Tasky, however, WAS killed.

Scum is either

SpyreX and Ellibereth

, or

Toogie and GhostWriter

.

I bet it's the first two, I need to re-read the details of Toogie and GhostWriter's confirmation.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ah, yes, Toogie prevented a Nightkill by protecting GhostWriter.

[DrippingGoofball]

So Elli and SpyreX are scumpals, you guys must have had a ball in the QT, but I hope you guys thought of making wills.

VOTE: SpyreX

[Toogeloo]

I'm assuming you saw CES get hypnotized since, A) you haven't included him in analysis at all, and B) you aren't tunneled on him like you were yesterday.

I don't get why SpyreX would be a suspect with his headlining of Anti's lynch. It doesn't make any sense.

[DrippingGoofball]

Indeed, I targeted CES again, and this time, he was hypnotized.

If you look at SpyreX headlining Antihero's lynch... unless there was a case of obv-obv-obvscum, there hasn't been a whole lot of bus'ing going on. Except once, early on, when it was really safe, Elli voted SpyreX. He was alone voting SpyreX while some other player was the lynch-leader.

I can see scum leading a lynch on a weak buddy after a few days of not taking losses. There comes a point, after a few townie lynches, that your credibility is shot unless you deliver scum.

[Toogeloo]

Well, here's the thing. I used my Roleblock last night on Ellibereth.

I spent a good portion of the night phase deciding between Elli and DGB and decided to take a shot on Elli, just in case DGB is telling the truth.


So if Elli is scum, she didn't send in the hypnosis last night.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Hmm. Not what I was expecting. I don't believe both Toogeloo and DGb are telling the truth simply for balance reasons. Katsuki's role could also explain the lack of death N2 (or N3, I don't remember). Shame she didn't get to claim the results.

Honestly, I could totally picture Toogeloo + Ellibereth currently.

[Toogeloo]

It's entirely possible that Kat stopped the Night 2 death, but Kat himself claimed in post 858 that I was virtually confirmed because of it, which leads me to believe Kat took an action (or lack of action) on Night 2 that would preclude him from considering the possibility he himself stopped the kill.

Any number of possibilities could exist that we aren't considering, like Ghost could be the Hypnotist equivalent of a Godfather, and Kat stopped Night 2's kill for example (somewhat outlandish). Or DGB and Elli are scum together as they only require one more mislynch to win (more probable). Kat may have been a limited use Roleblocker (stopping any part of the kill is detrimental to scum since it takes two players to kill), so he may not have sent an action on Night 2. Who knows.

I think Occam's Razor comes into effect here though. The most likely player to be scum is Elli in almost any situation. Just because I roleblocked Elli last night and a kill still happened, doesn't mean that Elli isn't scum. The other scum could simply have sent the kill, especially if they felt that they weren't in danger of being blocked.


We could very much be looking at a MyLo situation here btw, so I'm not sure if we should be voting just yet.