Unless you did something extremely retarded that would make people vote for you at a fast rate, I think it makes a difference. Except in the situation mentioned previously, pretty much every single player will wait for a lynch target to claim before taking them out, so unless your case is a totally lost cause (which it isn't), you should've waited until then.vezokpiraka wrote:@malthusius: Do you think it would have made a difference if I had claimed at L-2 or L-1 instead of L-3?
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I'm straw manning RBT? Really? L.O.L.
Or if you are talking about someting else, maybe you should, you know, quote it.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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So you were talking to andrew, but you put your vote on me with no justification. Unless you're still trying to ride the omglulz rvs + didn't answer a question for a page omg u scumz bro wagon?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Alright so just lists in general are bad? What if I had just written it out in a paragraph?TA wrote:No I said you made it look like you had a better case than you actually had.
Do you see the difference? I never actually mentioned "bulleted" list anywhere. If you had made the same list without the bullets I would still be after you for it.
Even if I did have short term memory and needed to check my post, how would that be scummy?TA wrote:You said "I looked back and all my reasons were valid". I interpreted it the most obvious way, i.e. that you actually did what you said rather than it being rhetoric.
As a response to the rest of your post:
1. I think I mentioned somewhere that I retracted this point. It may have been related to chess however.
2. I disagree and talked about it with Adumbro, any extra arguements about it should be taken out of thread however.
3 and 5. Hence my current vote
4. It is just as hard for scum to make a case as it is for town however, it is still VERY easy to find just one person with slight vibes on. It just looks like scum trying to get a free ride and not have to do anything FMPOV
I loled.RBT wrote:Chess, you should stop, and tell me how I'm not producing "content". All you're doing right now is pushing a scummy bandwagon.
Its not as risky, especially since you knew you would probably have time to post again before you got lynched. For example, people could have switched over from you to RBT before you got to L-2 or L-1. If someone did lynch you before you got to claim... well they're just stupid and would have gotten lynched the next day. There's no reason to claim if you don't have to.vezok wrote:DB: Why would I claim at L-2 or anywhere else? I was online at that time and was at L-3. Close enough for me.
@Gandalf- Let vezo defend herself kthx.
This.Chess wrote:So you were talking to andrew, but you put your vote on me with no justification. Unless you're still trying to ride the omglulz rvs + didn't answer a question for a page omg u scumz bro wagon?
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gandalf5166 (1) - AdumbroDeus
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ThAdmiral (2) - andrew94, gandalf5166
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There's also the fact that you claimed i'm scum due to buzzsaw defending. Those points are also vaild, saying "OMG they all jumped on a bandwagon!!!!!1!1!!1!1!!1!!" Doesn't change it.chesskid3 wrote:So you were talking to andrew, but you put your vote on me with no justification. Unless you're still trying to ride the omglulz rvs + didn't answer a question for a page omg u scumz bro wagon?-
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when did I claim you are scum? I strongly believe that one of you and Darkhorse is scum, based on opportunism, but I'm not sure which yet. My vote is currently on RBT, why are you so worried that I might think you are scum?Dark Horse wrote:
There's also the fact that you claimed i'm scum due to buzzsaw defending. Those points are also vaild, saying "OMG they all jumped on a bandwagon!!!!!1!1!!1!1!!1!!" Doesn't change it.chesskid3 wrote:So you were talking to andrew, but you put your vote on me with no justification. Unless you're still trying to ride the omglulz rvs + didn't answer a question for a page omg u scumz bro wagon?
Also the person who invented the chainsaw tell even says it doesn't work until there has been a scumflip, but I always point out chainsaws, since I can read my own ISO later after there are some flips.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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firstly, the argument was not pointed at me. i was sarcastically saying that since unvoting is a waste of time, we might as well not vote.
the wiki is outdated, most of the stuff in it has been read by players and do you think scum will seriously do what it says on the wiki?
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Yeah that is strawmanning. Vezok's play makes sense, considering what power he claimed. A governor shot is something you use at L-1, not claim at L-1 so someone can hammer you before you use it. Claiming it at L-2/L-3 is tech.andrew94 wrote:firstly, the argument was not pointed at me. i was sarcastically saying that since unvoting is a waste of time, we might as well not vote.
Twisting his argument into "claiming at L-10000000 is good" is definitely strawmanning.
I don't fully understand your wiki comment, but from my experience, Chainsawing on D1 is not a scumtell, since town can chainsaw people who attack townreads of theirs. Happens all the time. Someone flips scum though, changes the entire picture.
Reads. Town to null to scum to wtf please post.
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Malthusis makes the scumlist for the "wtf why did you claim" reaction to Vezok's claim.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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overreaction to "unnecessary (wasn't actually unnecessary, but this is irrelevant for evaluating malthusis's post)" claim is classic towncred fishing.
Why is this a SUPER-DUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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If you get lynched before you use your governor shot, too bad. What's the problem?andrew94 wrote:i thought governor action goes before all day lynch votes?
i saw in a game it said 'xxx cannot be lynched today'Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Why? There are many arguments I could make to explain a quickhammer of someone at L-1 who claimed to have a 1-shot governor.andrew94 wrote:but, then the person who hammered would get in deep shit.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"
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